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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:30 GMT
#1018
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.

which is really really weak.

it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia

it's all wrong
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:33 GMT
#1021
because you're the actual baddie, that's why
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:36 GMT
#1027
On February 05 2015 06:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 06:30 marvellosity wrote:
oh yeah, bats caught sl in a lie.

which is really really weak.

it's especially weak to vote for sl when he just spent like 3 paragraphs explaining to me why LS is definitely mafia

it's all wrong

I am confused. Wasn't bats talking about SL and is voting Breshke?

yeah he moved on
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:36 GMT
#1028
or maybe he didn't

lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:40 GMT
#1031
I think Breshke's scumread on LS is better than Damdred's.

Damdred's is way, way harder which by default makes it a worse read.

One thing I noticed in Breshke's filter is that Breshke actually *defended* LS's use of meta, even though he went on to scumread him not long after.

That reads kinda townie to me - as in, he is actually thinking about LS's alignment, he's thinking about that part of his play and doesn't think it was scummy, but thought other parts of it were scummy.

If Breshke is mafia, then he would have had to have made the post where he said LS's meta-use wasn't actually scummy and then suddenly decide that he was going to scumread LS. Which is definitely possible, but the alternative town-explanation I just gave I think is possible too.

I think the town-explanation for Damdred's read on LS has a much lower probability than what i just described
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:45 GMT
#1037
On February 04 2015 13:14 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............


Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.

Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense.

I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.


Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.

It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.

I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE.

The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game.

"Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here:
- He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town.
- By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.


LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy

I actually meant this one
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:45 GMT
#1038
the fact koshi isn't just with me on damdred makes me feel better about that lynch.

is that naughty of me?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:47 GMT
#1041
On February 05 2015 06:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 13:14 Breshke wrote:
On February 04 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:56 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:52 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 04 2015 12:49 rsoultin wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:23 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 04 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not scum so im prop not gonna care about this day 1

Really you going to skip Day 1 discussion just because you don't want to play it out? You should know better than that...............


Is this the post you were talking about, Eden? That doesn't read to me like LS getting onto SL for not reading.

Well, intending not to play, if I'm gonna be precise about it. But I think you get what I'm getting at here - it is strange to me that LS criticizes sicklucker for declaring his intention not to care about day 1 when LS himself clearly isn't paying much attention. It just seems like LS is choosing lame things to snipe, and in the case of the player he voted for, he also just didn't make sense.

I think this case is a lot better than the Damdred one honestly.


Lol, Eden, were you trolling in your last two scum games? Cause if you were, I can see where he's getting it from. He does these meta things like every game.

It is hypocritical assuming that LS doesn't return to the thread, and if that's the case I'll probably happily vote him with you.

I was intermittently trolling in Linux and very sparsely trolling in NYE.

The problem is that I troll at least a little bit in every game. I trolled the shit out of Hammertime d1. I fuckin drunkposted like Lindsey Lohan the first like 6 hours or so of that game. I trolled to start here by fakeclaiming miller just to do it and managed to improvise it into something resembling a legit play. I didn't troll in Imperial but that's probably just because I was fresh off of a hiatus and had something to prove to myself. I trolled the whole game in World Heavyweight as town and then shit the bed at LYLO and I trolled to start Melee Mini with a similar play as in this game.

"Eden trolled at some point" is a terrible meta read, and even if LS uses meta too much there's still two problems with his use here:
- He clearly didn't actually check it against prior games when I was town. If you're going to run a meta case saying "ABC did XYZ and ABC does XYZ when ABC is mafia," you should probably make sure ABC doesn't also do XYZ as town.
- By the time he actually posted I had long since stopped trolling and had been ?arguably? the most productive player in the thread so far, certainly in the top 3 somewhere. So LS's read wasn't even correct. At no point from the time he posted it was it ever actually an accurate read.


LS tries to use meta a lot which i believe he said he was going tot ry and stop but correct me if im wrong anyone he really isn't the type of person to go back and look at peoples games. He more uses it from games he has participated in or asking other players about peoples meta. So yes its bad he didn't go look at your town games but i don't think it is scummy

ahh this. I didn't read this. I don't understand what he is saying.

Eden is saying "LS's read on me is bad, because he is misusing meta because he didn't go back to check if i did what i'm doing in my towngames"

Breshke says "yes it is bad, but LS uses meta on games that he's played in himself, so although he should have checked the towngames, I don't think it's scummy that he didn't given how LS uses meta"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:50 GMT
#1045
On February 05 2015 06:49 Eden1892 wrote:
Yeah sorry Koshi I don't see it re: Breshke. I think if everyone goes to Breshke's filter, finds the two posts Koshi quoted, scrolls up a couple more posts and then reads his filter from there to the end, you'll see a very natural, deliberating, evolving read on LS that makes sense from a townie POV

yeah this.

and then you compare it to Damdred's read... just sooooo certain.

Like LS could even be mafia! he could, even though I don't think he is at this point. but even if he is, LS is not "certain mafia" based on what he's posted and Damdred shouldn't be thinking he is
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 21:57 GMT
#1050
just sheep me and everything will be ok, i promise
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 22:03 GMT
#1058
On February 05 2015 07:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
yes exactly we're going damred > rs since damd was kind enough to point out his partner


man i was so on point like an hour into this game

rs has just been really really reactive and not digging enough from what i've seen in her town game so i'm happy with these 2 being mafia for now

On February 04 2015 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
Damdred/rsoultin gg

timestamps bro
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 22:06 GMT
#1064
On February 05 2015 07:06 Holyflare wrote:
it's quite clearly a fear read

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 22:14 GMT
#1070
i'm sure he's relieved to hear it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 22:19 GMT
#1076
it's not a great list really
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 22:20 GMT
#1080
On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

1 trillion percent not an exaggeration
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 22:38 GMT
#1099
On February 05 2015 07:28 Damdred wrote:
Well i'm home slowly reading through filters, i'm not sure you read all of Linux Marv I was really sure about most of my reads I posted look at my early trfel read that I threw away after awhile. Until I finally settled onto Eden being scum and b uilt my case there, lately I've been generally presenting my reads as very sure even if I change my mind later so I really hate that read of yours.

Sorry, no
On February 01 2015 00:40 Damdred wrote:
I was looking at Trfel filter again and a few things popped up at me that raised a red flag.

Really hard disbelief/doubt on robik claim when it happened. This is interesting to me because of the difference in what Trfel did and thread. People were mad at Rob claiming but believed it, brownies generally believe claims due to it adding more information and game being slightly easier even if it's bad. Mafia already knew partial setup, and disbelief to robik claim could be a Scum slip from to much info.

Moving on thread presence is really down and lots of excuses about why he's not posting much.

Lastly a pretty decent sized list post with no conclusive reads no Scum reads just really noncommittal reads,

Trfel is scum

Yes you're calling him scum

but it's "a few things popped up that raised a red flag"

not "kill LS confirmed mafia"
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 23:18 GMT
#1125
##Vote: Damdred
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 23:24 GMT
#1128
sicklucker might be town for all his stupid policy lynch posts. I don't think he made posts like that as mafia but I'd have to check. Mostly his reads were actual reads and/or buses when he was scum.

don't feel that strongly about it but it's a thought
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 23:30 GMT
#1131
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

yes, this is also true.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2015 23:55 GMT
#1146
hmm
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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