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On February 05 2015 15:48 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:
1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.
Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.
SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.We should lynch him none of this makes him potential mafia other than the bolded
This is also strange, because that's absolutely not the scummiest thing JAT pointed out. Like the fact JAT wants to lynch half the game is probably what is the least scummy about him.
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On February 05 2015 23:29 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 15:48 Holyflare wrote:On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:
1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.
Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.
SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.We should lynch him none of this makes him potential mafia other than the bolded This is also strange, because that's absolutely not the scummiest thing JAT pointed out. Like the fact JAT wants to lynch half the game is probably what is the least scummy about him.
that's not what HF said.
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On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up
Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum.
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Also I do post some large posts as either alignment Eden but more so as town than scum if you looked all my games 
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On February 05 2015 23:27 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:25 Eden1892 wrote:On February 05 2015 23:23 Palmar wrote:
Why are people townreading HF btw? Did I miss something? no, not really. most people aren't commenting on him in one way or another also I revoke my probationary scumtell, it appears LS sometimes posts walls as town based on reading past games Why did you specifically point out HF being on JAT's scumlist then? If he has done nothing of notice, wouldn't it be normal to be okay with lynching him? (I'm mostly asking because I would probably be okay with lynching HF).
Cause of why he put HF on there. He didn't say "HF has done nothing of notice," he said "HF hasn't done anything which can't make him mafia," which as far as I know HF is a pretty small selection of actions. Doubtless HF wouldn't have the rep he has as mafia if there were a reliable list of things he only does as town from which one could read him. He'd be caught far more easily than he is. And when I pressed him to get clarification the end conclusion was that it was just a fear read. He wasn't actually okay lynching HF, and one of the points I make about his list is that half of the people on it are people that he doesn't actually want to lynch anyway.
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On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing .
yes that's what a case is.
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On February 05 2015 23:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:29 Palmar wrote:On February 05 2015 15:48 Holyflare wrote:On February 05 2015 15:40 Eden1892 wrote:On February 05 2015 06:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so the people I could maybe be convinced to lynch are:
1 Breshke
3 rsoultin
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
12 Holyflare
I don't actually want to lynch HF that much but I have seen nothing from him that he couldn't do as scum so fuck him.
Breshke/Onegu/bats are more POE because they haven't been as towny as the rest of the game but there were still moments from all 3 of them that made me think they could be town. Would need a good case on those to lynch them.
SL and Damdred look the worst to me and would be my prefered lynch targets right now. But yeah this list. I don't like it at all. Holyflare is on there for no reason. I bugged him about this and he basically confirmed HF is there for no reason. He has 3 people that he lists as "could be convinced to lynch" but then says he would "need a good case on [them] to lynch them" which doesn't make sense. If you'd need a good case on them then obviously you don't really think they're mafia, so why do you even bother to list them in this set? What's really interesting too is that he clarifies to put rsoultin in this group, but unlike all the others here, rsoultin is actually being pushed. If you think someone probably isn't mafia then why aren't you going to bat for them in the thread when other people are trying to lynch them? When you distill it down it's just Damdred and SL which, oh yeah, have been the same targets people talked about all day. JAT provides no original insight or reasoning into lynching any of them and doesn't even bother to rehash reasons people already stated. And all that could be okay if it were just an update list to tell us where he's at, and if he planned to do more later to narrow this down and give some more useful reads. But that's not what happened. He ends up asking me some questions that clearly weren't going anywhere because "you can never be too sure" I'm not mafia. Says some stuff about SL that is incorrect, some other zzz one-liners. Put yourself in that situation as a townie. You allegedly have a pool of lynches that's half of the game long with 24 hours to pick one, and you know you have sleep and work coming up taking out the majority of that time. Surely you're going to make some meaningful effort to engage people and refine your views right? JAT doesn't do this.We should lynch him none of this makes him potential mafia other than the bolded This is also strange, because that's absolutely not the scummiest thing JAT pointed out. Like the fact JAT wants to lynch half the game is probably what is the least scummy about him. that's not what HF said.
Yes, but reading is hard
##unvote
##vote JAT
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On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum.
wtf does that even mean?
and why do you think only the last 2 sentences make JAT mafia?
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On February 05 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing . yes that's what a case is.
Fine well I just don't think it's a good enough case for today to go on and sicklucker looks like the better chance of flipping scum when I must forgive myself for calling sicklucker town when he was scum in Linux....
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Rofl, LS you're a goddamn hero.
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On February 05 2015 23:33 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing . yes that's what a case is. Fine well I just don't think it's a good enough case for today to go on and sicklucker looks like the better chance of flipping scum when I must forgive myself for calling sicklucker town when he was scum in Linux....
why not?
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How about you post a damn case Eden, stop sucking. Don't just say why you think he's mafia. MAKE A CASE.
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On February 05 2015 23:33 Palmar wrote:
How about you post a damn case Eden, stop sucking. Don't just say why you think he's mafia. MAKE A CASE.
![[image loading]](http://blog.ogletreedeakins.com/assets/Briefcase-With-Money-Hi-Res.jpg)
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There we go, image resized itself
Hijole
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On February 05 2015 22:58 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 22:51 Damdred wrote:
SL should be the lynch today.
[1] Firstly since sL came back to the thread he was only active before people started talking about really switching to JAT which thread sentiment started to favour, and he only re appeared once people noticed this pattern once again.
2 Besides that he made it extremely clear that I should be the one to die since the lynch was trying to be pushed on him and its obvious mafia is pushing the wagon. But soon as people started saying the case on him was good he started to push the JAT angle and he voted Jat instead of killng the person who the wagon was being pushed off of.
3 He is still selectively quoting and interacting with people.
This guy is mafia. Also people who say the SL case is good and then vote with him give me the heebie jeebies breaking your post into 1-2-3 for convenient responding. [1] is fair and I'm gonna keep watching it throughout the day. This is a pretty good strike against him. [2] I'm not as sure about. I know what you're citing, but the whole "mafia are trying to push this wagon, look at who they're pushing it off of" bit came off to me like town!sicklucker. No offense to SL but it was the exact kind of excessively self-important thought process I expect from him as town. I forget who said it, I think rsoultin, that as town SL tends to post some odd theories about the mafia's gameplan that revolve around him being targeted, this fits the bill to me. [3] I dunno again. Not saying it didn't happen, just that I didn't notice it. What do you feel he's ignoring lately that makes you think he's been selective in his interactions with people?
#1 it was actually my birthday f off.
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Happy birthday! My present is trying to get JAT lynched
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On February 05 2015 23:32 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2015 23:30 LightningStrike wrote:On February 05 2015 23:27 Eden1892 wrote:
LS why do you think there's no case for JAT being mafia? I'm biased obviously but I think that's a pretty bold statement to make without anything to back it up Like when I read your thing on JAT it doesn't seem much of a case it more like here why I think JAT is mafia type of thing and honestly I do agree with I think HF on the fact the only like the last 2 sentences was the only thing I can get out of that can make JAT be scum. wtf does that even mean? and why do you think only the last 2 sentences make JAT mafia?
Mainly it seems like just your thoughts that's it. JAT haven't done much other than a few questions and calling me town. Only the last two sentences really would make JAT mafia because of the fact he didn't really ask much to refine his views and more sheepish I think is the right term here? Anyways that's my thoughts on your thing on JAT.
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On February 05 2015 23:04 Damdred wrote:
JAT has a much lower chance to flip scum than SL does. You have hard defended SL for pages and haven't even responded to any part of my case or my response to your original reasons why hes scum when instead you directed the thread towards a different vein which is total bullshit.
Now Breshke and SL are voting together when bresh said my case was good and I was town. You don't even blink when SL changes from Lets kill Damdred since mafia is trying to push off me onto him and all of a sudden hes super happy lynching JAT.
Who by the way is always super try hard as mafia tone is super different from his mafia game.
I want to kill both of you. I want you both very dead
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as I said, I'm reading backwards, I reached this:
On February 05 2015 15:25 Eden1892 wrote:This is what I was talking about, I should've quoted it in the same post. Show nested quote +On February 04 2015 21:32 justanothertownie wrote:On February 04 2015 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
so jat both dandred and ls had totally made up town reads on you. Did you yell at them in the obs qt? You were the only scumbuddy I ever had to yell at (goes to show how "good" your play was). And I didn't even once tell you to townread me. From now on I will ignore your bullshit though. I won't let you feign activity by answering anything like this again. "Won't let you feign activity"? Someone read that and tell me it doesn't sound fraudulent as hell
This here is why I am changing my vote to JAT.
The main point isn't actually the way it sounds. Also, I might be wrong because I don't know what context this was said in, but here's why I think it could make JAT mafia.
The sentence "I won't let you feign activity again" strongly, strongly implies that JAT has already made up his mind that sicklucker MUST be mafia in this scenario. In which case I had a quick look at the vote count, and I couldn't see JAT actually voting sicklucker at any point.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I would never say something that is so damning unless I had made up my mind that he is mafia, in which case I'd be trying to lynch said player.
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