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Like, I don't think the way I went after rsoultin today has been in any way unfair, and she is making out like i'm ridiculous.
I went through filters.
I got the thread to realise bats was town.
Then I went back to rsoul's/LS's filter and I produced several things that LS did that I think strongly indicate he was town, and I just couldn't do the same for rsoultin.
None of this is being unreasonable but she's in here shouting at me as a bully and I'm really scummy for thinking like this. I don't think any of how I've gone about this is remotely scummy.
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On February 11 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:On February 11 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote: For reference - if you want to argue with me that LS is mafia, I want you to discuss with me the things I brought up in LS's filter that I think make him town.
like the stuff about the mafia roles, forgetting framer, all that stuff i don't think he's artful enough for going after eden mid-day 2 picking up on the rsoultin-koshi joke thing (whether it's correct or not is beside the point, it's that he found it and commented and pushed it) Also I accept LS's point about the fact he was coached in his last mafia game, and even if he was coached here he's done infinitely better. Also please feel free to engage with me on all these points I'm listening These two points are the better ones. The others are blah. Saying he's not artful enough is just saying he's bad (the source of my snark) and the rsoultin-koshi joke thing means nothing if he's a mafia partner with koshi. Obviously he had scum partners who could help him with how to post in this game (something he didn't actually have in our Student game, because both of his partners were AWOL) so he could feasibly do better as scum here than several games ago playing essentially alone, and to suggest otherwise is naïve. This is incorrect as LS mentioned himself, mafia had a coach in the Student games.
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You have to tell me how that process I went through is scummy though. You're the one attacking me heavily for it. I've gone about it in a very evenhanded way and I challenge you to show me otherwise.
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On February 11 2015 09:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 09:30 marvellosity wrote:On February 11 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote:On February 11 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:On February 11 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote: For reference - if you want to argue with me that LS is mafia, I want you to discuss with me the things I brought up in LS's filter that I think make him town.
like the stuff about the mafia roles, forgetting framer, all that stuff i don't think he's artful enough for going after eden mid-day 2 picking up on the rsoultin-koshi joke thing (whether it's correct or not is beside the point, it's that he found it and commented and pushed it) Also I accept LS's point about the fact he was coached in his last mafia game, and even if he was coached here he's done infinitely better. Also please feel free to engage with me on all these points I'm listening These two points are the better ones. The others are blah. Saying he's not artful enough is just saying he's bad (the source of my snark) and the rsoultin-koshi joke thing means nothing if he's a mafia partner with koshi. Obviously he had scum partners who could help him with how to post in this game (something he didn't actually have in our Student game, because both of his partners were AWOL) so he could feasibly do better as scum here than several games ago playing essentially alone, and to suggest otherwise is naïve. This is incorrect as LS mentioned himself, mafia had a coach in the Student games. It is correct. Read it again. *rolls eyes* so he had afk partners, but he had a coach. whatever.
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Then you probably shouldn't be swearing at me and saying I'm bullying you then, I've quite obviously done no such thing.
You do your thang, lady.
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I've done it in its entirety, I've gone through his entire filter and presented what I found. I don't know what else you want from me.
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"I know you have probably done this" - like I've talked about LS loads today, cmon bro >.>
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If you hadn't shot 2 mafia I would be suspicious of you for that line
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Thank you hosts.
mafia get rekt
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thank you breshke for the hard carry.
super happy to be right when it mattered though
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On February 11 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote: xP lol
you said you had a terrible feeling
I knew then I was in trouble lol...also so hating on my work hours in relation to EoD this game -_- yeah it all suddenly became clear to me...
but i had to do the work to check too
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Breshke, your n2 shot was ballsy as fuck. Don't think I ever saw a better vig shot.
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I was ready for you bbygrl <3
I appreciate the fight all game though.
Thank Eden for your hard-defence all game for me :p
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On February 11 2015 10:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 10:07 marvellosity wrote: I was ready for you bbygrl <3
I appreciate the fight all game though.
Thank Eden for your hard-defence all game for me :p lol <3 I still think calling bats as the cop and pushing jat to force him to claim was the most fun part of the game for me xP suggestions for playing scum other than I just suck at it? lol (I fully realize I had the most trouble in the world scumreading anyone town ><) Not really, because I suffer from the same problem, it is really quite hard. I suggest reading an HF scumgame or two.
also you didn't suck at scum at all. you're always going to have suspicion on you at some point, and you got a lot of townreads.
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On February 11 2015 14:10 Holyflare wrote:and marv only called me 100% mafia because he didn't read the thread at all and instead looked at the vote thread  ! yes.
I never even read like a massive swathe of pages around that part of the game.
Oops.
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On February 11 2015 14:48 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 12:29 Breshke wrote: I think i actually played fairly bad and was lucky i was blue.
I also don't think claiming when i did was as good as i thought it was at the time You doubt yourself - you did great  You were town MVP this game. I was still lost for the third scum. Bats and his fakeclaims and checking you - but hey I'm still a noob. GG Edit: Mafia QT/Docs of shots? LS/others - Stop with so much meta - let it go, read the current game/thread. Palmar will be happy to help you, PM him  Rso - You did very well be proud  Meta is fucking fantastic.
edit: not that LS doesn't overuse meta, but it's a great tool.
On that note, don't really get some of the criticism of LS's play, looking back he looked really pretty town, made a decent case on jat-mafia when other townies were calling for my head, and actually listened on the final day unlike one townie who's been around a lot longer who shall remain nameless.
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I totally reevaluated. I reevaluated and you were even more certainly mafia than before.
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On February 11 2015 19:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2015 19:56 marvellosity wrote: I totally reevaluated. I reevaluated and you were even more certainly mafia than before. No. You called me mafia and called me mafia and called me mafia. No reevaluation. Not even the slightest doubt at any point in time. And I did not really call you mafia before that. I just didn't call you town. Yes, I called you mafia.
Then I stopped to think about it.
And after thinking you were *definitely* mafia.
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On February 11 2015 20:21 Palmar wrote: I still think my question from day 1 is relevant. How on earth did the JAT wagon disintegrate? he posted some words and that's often enough to push a lynch off a high profile player
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