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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 15:56 GMT
#4831
additional thoughts:
1) marv hasn't really been trying all that hard to solve the game imo given his filter size. he's been mostly sitting back and observing but then not really driving any lynches for most of the game, then he shows up at EOD and tries to lynch someone and goes back to being a background player post-flip
2) dude is 0/2 on his lynches and whatever he tries to spin it as, his evolution of his read on the one guy we caught is lame. maybe it's expecting too much but I feel like he should have seen Koshi as at least possibly mafia enough for his lynch not to be "shocking" at d1 EOD, and I feel like it should have been clearer to him sooner that Koshi was mafia

and then this guy still hasn't suggested we shoot JAT over LS after being called out for it...???
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 15:58 GMT
#4835
er "not hard" = not difficult
hard =/= hard claim lol sorry for confusion

On February 10 2015 00:53 marvellosity wrote:
like i had a big beef with various people

AFTER YOU RETRACTED YOUR MILLER CLAIM

where a whole bunch of people didn't understand it was a play

so how the fuck was it obvious BEFORE you retracted, right at the start

are you fucking insane?

what's a mob to the king? maybe the average denizen of tlmafia doesn't see that it's play, hell maybe the average player in this game doesn't. you are neither
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 15:59 GMT
#4838
On February 10 2015 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
"although personally i would go full yolo and shoot jat" = shoot jat

lol

bruh hell no.

you just said before it "you have to take the shot" on LS

and then calling it a full yolo play is obviously devaluing it so Breshke writes it off

come the fuck on
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:01 GMT
#4841
On February 10 2015 00:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay guys I'm back and now I bring the case on why JAT is confirmed Mafia. Now lets start with my first piece of evidence his case on HF on page 15 of his filter:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, so first of all HF is one of the best if not the best scum player on this site. You won't catch him for being inactive uninteresting or any of this shit and he will bus teammates who are playing badly. He will say towny stuff from time to time and he is also perfectly able to "mindmeld" with you at times. You need to look for the agenda he is pushing.

This is why he is mafia:

This is the start of his rsoultin scumread day1. From now on she is basically his #1 scumread.
On February 05 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote:
I mean if i'm honest I'm probably more sure about rs than damdy

On February 05 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
yeh rsoul is green when I just gave the best case against her ever

On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

On February 05 2015 10:10 Holyflare wrote:
On February 05 2015 10:07 Eden1892 wrote:
And shit you said Damdred got more townie. So even if rsoultin didn't, it's bullshit that you're telling me you still have a scumread and so you're content with being lazy.


it is what it is, rsoul has literally posted nothing all game and it hasn't really changed i don't care what your gut tells you or not

On February 06 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On February 06 2015 02:45 batsnacks wrote:
On February 06 2015 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm at a crossroads between just not giving a crap about the game and giving a modicum of care towards the game with an emphasis on the former and it's somewhat annoying to me.

Nobody even mentioned me other than eden and i haven't even done anything this game really which is super boring and probably means mafia is the weaker players.


I'd vote you if that makes you feel better.

Breshke though... Really...


I'm more inclined to vote rs tbh


But when the deadline comes nearer and people are not all about lynching rsoultin he completely forgets about the read. He isn't decided on who to lynch and has MULTIPLE different targets suddenly that he keeps pushing really hard:
On February 06 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
let's kill oneguuuuuuuuuu

if i'm wrong you can flame me for wasting your time

On February 06 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
abandon wagon ABANDON WAGON

SHEEP TO DAMDRED OR I LYNCH YOU TOMORROW

On February 06 2015 07:57 Holyflare wrote:
god this breshke is actually 100% mafia or something

Notice how ALL of those are town and he can jump between them as much as he wants if he is mafia. No mention of rsoulting ever during all of this.
So what has rsoultin done to make him forget about her? The answer is absolutely nothing. She disappeared like he will say himself later.

Ok, so mislynch accomplished. Back to scumreading rsoultin immediately:
On February 06 2015 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
it's funny how rsoul just appeared at deadline to vote onegu and then completely disappeared again so probably 100% breshke/jat/rsoul


So, I point this out and this is his reaction:
On February 07 2015 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
How have I treated rs? I've thought she was mafia all game and at deadline onegu was way more convincing mafia but then he wasn't mafia so i went back to talking about rs being mafia?

Then where was this read during eod? He literally went after 3 other people and said nothing about her.
If you want to know how town HF handles his scumreads eod look at void mafia. He scumread HTS and pushed her hard even though noone else really was up for it besides Kelsier. He didn't give a fuck about other targets - he pushed HIS scumread.
Now he claimes he scumread rsoulting all game and then he does nothing about getting her lynched? There is no way town HF does this.
He is INSISTING that he never dropped his rsoultin reads though:
On February 07 2015 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
No it's not he said my read progression is damning because I drop it when I haven't


And then the real gem comes:
On February 07 2015 02:00 Holyflare wrote:
I'm also going to preemptively defend myself from a jat onslaught by saying i wasn't invested in this game at all until deadline so my rs read isn't very concrete compared to reads i was making in real time then. Seeing as I was mostly trolling, apart from the nagging what if on damdred.

Not only can you easily see the guilty conscience - he knows I am town and that I caught him and will push him - but SUDDENLY HIS READ WASN'T VERY CONCRETE?
Read the posts I quoted earlier again and decide for yourself if you want to believe this and keep in mind that he "scumread rsoultin all game" and "never dropped the read".

This guy is mafia. I will show more reasons but this rsoultin read evolution is damning enough on it's own and I don't want the post to get too big.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
pretty sure a town jat would have switched to onegu when I was pushing for it

Then we have this reasoning for scumreading me which makes no sense in the first place since I had more reasons to scumread SL than Onegu but even if we ignore this - why would I as scum make myself look bad by not following town marv and HF around (which I have done as scum before) if all lynch targets are town anyways and I could just switch as often as I want?
On February 06 2015 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
yeh mafia is undeniably palmar or jat because they are just the type of people to qq in their scum qt/pms about modkilling

I already commented on this post. It is just another awful reason to push me.
On February 06 2015 13:43 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still 100% lynching jat though he's done a void all over again where he avoids all the wagons and reasoning while still agreeing with it. He did the exact same thing in heavyweight too.

Flat out lying when I clearly WAS on one of the wagons and was also pushing it. Saying I avoided wagons in heavyweight is also a straight lie.

Then his defense against me:
On February 07 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
It's absolutely not irrelevant because do you see him talking about rsoul at deadline? Absolutely not so if he is town then why does his read make sense to him when he did the same thing?

This is absolutely irrelevant. I was not the one pushing rsoulting as my top scumread.
On February 07 2015 01:32 Holyflare wrote:
On February 07 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
his rsoul read came subsequently, pretty obviously, and yours didn't

so.


Rsoul has been in his poe list and someone he could have lynched the entire game and he barely ever commented on her

Like it doesn't matter anyway because his read is totally irrelevant if you read the deadline and if it's his only proper read this game when it should be pretty damn easy to poe the majority of mafia then he doesn't have much hope

Another lie. He said this when I had just poe'ed the mafia team a few posts before this. Still going on about how I read rsoultin which has nothing to do with my argument against him.
On February 07 2015 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
which is a pain because my effort level is low and i know jat is just going to whine and make it difficult to lynch him

He knows I am town and won't let myself be mislynched without putting up a fight.

Now if you looked in Void Mafia he was just as aggressive towards HF at Pages 1,2, and 3 of his filter on these same type of behavior towards a different player named Half the Sky before turned his attention to his scum read Marv in that game. Also note his behavior after HF backed off of JAT , JAT started to like him in Void Mafia at page 4.
From Void Mafia:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2015 04:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
On January 20 2015 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
I'm pretty confident on one mafia, but you're gonna have to wait for those pearls of wisdom until tomorrow.

P.S. I thought HF was leaning town already due to how he backed off his Wile push.

^
I liked that too but he would've made himself look pretty awful had he kept pushing.

Now if you look at his behavior regarding the votes on him or prssure on him he just attacked everyone including me and HF in this game. He did similar behavior throughout Void Mafia as scum and here is a convenient quote that JAT also in this game when someone mention him as scum in void Mafia when Koshi was town:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 08:03 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 23 2015 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Tomorrow I sheep HF. Just got to check he isnt as crazy as I was in the previous game. Maybe lynch Wile and then HTS. But hts will have to go soon.

no comment

and now here's some similar type of quotes from this game:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 03:09 Holyflare wrote:
I still think it's jat :p

No comment.

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:52 batsnacks wrote:
On February 09 2015 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
HF is 100% mafia, don't tell I didn't tell you so Eden.

DO NOT SAY I DID NOT TELL YOU SO.


jat is mafia too?

That's the part where it gets ridiculous.

Notice how he got angry on people wanting to lynch him throughout this game and in void he displayed the same behavior. When I played with him in Metal Mini he didn't seem to get mad as easily as this game and was activly solve the game there too.

i haven't even read this shit beyond "JAT confirmed mafia" but LS has finally done the one thing i needed him to do all fucking game

which is to stop saying "read XYZ filter"
actually read it himself
and come to a conclusion that doesn't completely fly in the face of this game's events

i'll read it before EOD to see if it's bullshit but if this is legit then LS is town and this game got easier
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:01 GMT
#4843
On February 10 2015 00:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 00:58 batsnacks wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:57 marvellosity wrote:
On February 10 2015 00:56 batsnacks wrote:
Miller cc or not... If your 100% reads are never wrong then how can we let you live?

because i had to literally say "100%" there?

no


What?

if i am mafia

and i am lynching a townie

i do not need to say "100%" and have people go "but your 100% reads are never wrong"

you do if you don't want to get lynched yourself.

(or at least, even if it may not be strictly necessary, your odds of success improve dramatically enough for me to find this unconvincing)
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:02 GMT
#4845
On February 10 2015 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
I mean I can't argue with the guy who says

"when I said "I am miller" you knew I was making a play and so you counterclaimed, even though if you knew it was a play there's still a very real risk there's a real miller out there"

there is no arguing with that sort of person

sweet dodge of the point that actually made me suspicious of you
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:03 GMT
#4846
On February 10 2015 01:02 marvellosity wrote:
of course LS's case is legit, it's a hard bus

it's frankly a better researched case than anything you've brought this game

like you're being outworked by the town puppy rn, no joke
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:05 GMT
#4849
On February 10 2015 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
but it's literally pointless to argue with you, you can't apply basic logic so what's the point

K

so if ls and jat are 100% mafia and hard-busing why did it take til now for you to say that when nothing either has done since you initially said "shoot ls" has actually changed
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:05 GMT
#4851
On February 10 2015 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
it's like being barked at by a dog, and i can tell him he doesn't get dinner for an hour because he only gets dinner after i've had dinner and it's the same every day, but the dog will continue to bark

best just leave the animal to it

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“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:06 GMT
#4853
On February 10 2015 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
said that right at the beginning of phase


wtf then why is shooting jat a yolo play?!?!

if he's 100% mafia what is yolo about it?!?! ksahgdfsdkl

surely you see my issue here! agh
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:07 GMT
#4854
and why do you say "it certainly seems that way" about jat being confirmed mafia if he's 100% mafia to you?

it doesn't add up
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:07 GMT
#4856
fuk shower then work

will try to keep up on phone, but odds are no substantial posting til like 2hrs before eod
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:18 GMT
#4864
Guys

I got a baller theory as to why marv fakeclaimed miller.

Mafia has framer and godfather, marv knew this so he figured there probably wasn't also a miller making it a safe fakeclaim.

It's science.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:19 GMT
#4867
Support for above theory:

(1) A framer, godfather AND miller would be overboard cop hate in a game with a cop (which bats is) (or really any game lol)

(2) Town has a cop AND a 2-shot vig. Mafia has no rb. The only way this is balanced is a lot of cop hate for mafia. GF and FR achieve this.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:21 GMT
#4872
On February 10 2015 01:20 marvellosity wrote:
Eden, you're hilarious, i'll give you that

sodium content too low

computer says mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:25 GMT
#4882
On February 10 2015 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
can't wait till Breshke makes the wrong shot, mafia vigi hit their shot and town lose tonight

it's gonna be baller

troll harder mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:26 GMT
#4886
so mafia have a scum vig they didn't even use

lol

because they were holding the shot to mindgame town

lol
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:27 GMT
#4889
marv desperately trying to make up scum PRs that balance game out with cop/vigi and don't also rule out his miller claim which is literally his only claim to innocence
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:30 GMT
#4898
On February 10 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 01:27 Eden1892 wrote:
marv desperately trying to make up scum PRs that balance game out with cop/vigi and don't also rule out his miller claim which is literally his only claim to innocence

how is it desperate you moron? i just forgot that we don't have a medic

lol how tf would we have cop and doc and vig with no mafia rb

how is that a thought that would ever sound plausible let alone enough for you to just accept as fact and forget we don't actually know
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 09 2015 16:30 GMT
#4900
On February 10 2015 01:30 batsnacks wrote:
I'm actually the medic btw. I made up the jat check.

bats pls
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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