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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 18:16 GMT
#4270
On February 09 2015 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
Hf in any iteration of scum team is wrong

Don't know about that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 18:23 GMT
#4276
On February 09 2015 03:21 Eden1892 wrote:
justanothertownie: Are you blue?

No.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 18:45 GMT
#4293
On February 09 2015 03:33 Eden1892 wrote:
True. I'm green

OK, so the setup we're looking at is

?Cop?, ?Vig? vs Goon, ?x?, ?x?

I'm asking because it seems silly to me to have a godfather AND framer in a setup with a cop and vig. That's a lot of hate for the cop role and absolutely no response to the vig. I could believe a framer or godfather, but both is pretty awkward. If they have a roleblocker, they apparently forgot to use it to stop Koshi from dying. Hard to believe unless they forgot to use it period. I also have a lot of trouble believing that the mafia decided to vig one of their own when they could have vig'd JAT/HF/whoever had public sentiment against them. Shit Breshke could even have vigged someone no one else wanted to kill that badly if he had been consistently scumreading that person before. He wasn't really that railroaded into shooting Koshi imo.

But then... where the hell is the other mafia PR? Is framer/2goons balanced vs cop and vig? I actually kinda feel like it might be - framer provides enough hate to the cop, and if you take out framer and cop, vanilla with a vig isn't that weird. It's probably townsided but it's not bizarre. I haven't had time to do my ultra-secret-probationary calculations to determine if it is.

What I'm trying to say is that I think we should take bats and Breshke at face value and go from there.

From there I really feel rso is town. I also feel that JAT and HF are town too, so this game is gonna get really hard if it's not LS and marv...

I agree that both claims are probably true. They could have a rb though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 18:46 GMT
#4295
On February 09 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh

It's jat and marv gave him Christmas

cool story bro
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 19:08 GMT
#4298
He literally claimed scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 19:21 GMT
#4304
On February 09 2015 04:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 04:14 Eden1892 wrote:
has marv ever put this much work in as mafia and still been caught? (presuming he is mafia)


dunnae. hf and/or jat should answer these questions for us lol

I don't know how this is relevant in any way? If people in imperial hadn't been idiots he would have been lynched for example.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 19:28 GMT
#4307
On February 09 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 04:18 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 04:14 Eden1892 wrote:
has marv ever put this much work in as mafia and still been caught? (presuming he is mafia)


dunnae. hf and/or jat should answer these questions for us lol

I don't know how this is relevant in any way? If people in imperial hadn't been idiots he would have been lynched for example.


if he's quit before after putting a lot of work in as mafia, it's relevant

No, it is not unless you want to tell me it would be more likely for him to quit like this as town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 19:55 GMT
#4314
On February 09 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
Oh HTS's post reminds me, sorry for going off on you yesterday JAT. It was pretty uncalled for. You the homie

No problem.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 20:17 GMT
#4326
On February 09 2015 05:15 LightningStrike wrote:
As scum he seems to be shy and more focus on me than anything else in Metal Mini and did weird 180 read turns too in that game for example he called Coag town for how little he cares then Palmar said thats how Coag plays as either alignment did a complete 180 and called Coag scum for the same reasons.
In New Years Eve Party Mafia he loved to sheep a ton which is a trait he normally doesn't do as town prior to that game and looked for inconsistency from other players for example he went after sicklucker in that game when sicklucker was our Town Tracker he called him out on his inconsistent read on me calling scum then shortly after that he then calls me null. He also did a 180 read change again in that game he called me town then he calls me scum for the fact I was defending town HTS.

So what is your conclusion regarding this game?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 20:27 GMT
#4337
...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 20:28 GMT
#4339
U be scum puppy?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:00 GMT
#4380
On February 09 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
If breshke town vig - get ppl to talk shoot mafia then claim + get credit or don't claim and get more shots/claim if under extreme pressure if needed or claim n1 get rb'd??

If breshke mafia and under pressure claim vig get town read?. Die d2 if not claim.

Only benefits mafia but would have thought they would claim rb even if they didn't have it....


hf, please use English ^^;


Let's say you are a town vigilante in a setup with roleblockers. Why on earth do you ever claim when you have 2 shots and there is a rber instead of just talking about everyones mafia reads?? The answer is that you don't. You are under pressure to be lynched day 2 and have a provable night action role so there is absolutely no threat to you getting lynched.

Now let's say you are a mafia vigilante who is under crazy suspicion and will be lynched d2. What do you do to get out of that? Claim a role. Otherwise you die d2.

The only benefit to claiming is for mafia.


That does make a lot of sense, tbh. And people keep asking why shoot koshi if bresh is mafia? But if you're right about jat and I was right about jat before the cop claim cleared him, then bresh was being told to shoot between two mafia partners. He chooses to shoot someone else, it's going to be a lot harder to explain.

Stupidest shit I ever heard.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:03 GMT
#4383
On February 09 2015 06:02 Eden1892 wrote:
ughh i mean i'll admit, it's weird that he claimed scum and then went back to making an effort to defend himself

but i really do not think i live in a world where marv is town and just folds like that

You call that an effort?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:04 GMT
#4386
On February 09 2015 06:04 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:03 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 09 2015 06:02 Eden1892 wrote:
ughh i mean i'll admit, it's weird that he claimed scum and then went back to making an effort to defend himself

but i really do not think i live in a world where marv is town and just folds like that

You call that an effort?

not much of one, but it's more than i figured he'd do if he were really scumclaiming, y'know?

hm
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:14 GMT
#4395
On February 09 2015 06:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
So what's the math like if we no lynch? :p

[image loading]

This.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:22 GMT
#4412
On February 09 2015 06:22 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:21 batsnacks wrote:
I wish eden had about 30 pages less of filter.

Me too. My next mission is to ball out like this with 80% fewer posts

A+
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:30 GMT
#4422
On February 09 2015 06:28 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:25 rsoultin wrote:
Hey, Eden, who is LS mafia with if not marv? You too, breshke, bats? He's been doing really strange things, especially since the cop check, but I thought a lot of the scumread was association?

One of JAT or HF

I'm not lynching bats Breshke or you unless something nuts happens

Also the most concise version of my case isn't association at all:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Guys seriously how long are we gonna give it a pass because "it's LS" and when are we gonna look at what he's actually saying and realize he has no clear evolving view of the game state? This guy's targets all game have been:
- People who suspect him
- Whoever the popular kill is at the time
If anybody can go back to his town games and find an example where literally every single target he's had has fallen into one of these two categories then ok, but this is completely what I expect from a newer mafiaside player

There's some other stuff from around there in my filter that I'll dig up if needed, but I really feel like that's good enough to lynch for

No idea why you treat rsoultin as confirmed town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:33 GMT
#4430
On February 09 2015 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
Mindmelds with me all game we poe mafia at night and then I'm the mafia over the guy that made one case on a towny all game? then he aint even pushing me still since a cop check changed nothing for him and everything for us??

The only reason I am not pushing you is that marv claimed scum. Wtf are you talking about?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:35 GMT
#4441
On February 09 2015 06:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
Mindmelds with me all game we poe mafia at night and then I'm the mafia over the guy that made one case on a towny all game? then he aint even pushing me still since a cop check changed nothing for him and everything for us??


+1 I hadn't even noticed, but where did jat's scumread on you go?

You expect me to keep pushing HF over marv when he claims scum?!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
February 08 2015 21:35 GMT
#4443
If marv is being an asshole as town then HF is almost guaranteed scum.
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