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marvellosity
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batsnacks
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On February 07 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote: She can be insanely bad because I remember in a pregame for one of the mafia games i played with her I told her to just sheep my reads obv I forgot to tell her to do it this game but she would be scummy as hell for it though lol.... lol LS why would RS be scummy for sheeping your reads? Are your reads that scummy? | ||
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marvellosity
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it's actually quite glorious | ||
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LightningStrike
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On February 07 2015 06:50 batsnacks wrote: lol LS why would RS be scummy for sheeping your reads? Are your reads that scummy? My reads looked bad at Day 1  | ||
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rsoultin
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On February 07 2015 06:48 LightningStrike wrote: She can be insanely bad because I remember in a pregame for one of the mafia games i played with her I told her to just sheep my reads obv I forgot to tell her to do it this game but she would be scummy as hell for it though lol.... last post: most backhanded defense ever -_- | ||
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marvellosity
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batsnacks
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LightningStrike
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batsnacks
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the lake rises over the treetops, but such conditions are temporary. Thus the superior man, when he stands alone, is unconcerned. Like a tree which stands strong even though it stands alone. And if he must renounce the world he is undaunted. We lynch HF tomorrow. | ||
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Eden1892
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On February 07 2015 05:45 rsoultin wrote: marv, what really pisses me off is you (and hf earlier) on your high horse talking about how long my filter is and saying it has nothing in it when it's obvious you either haven't read it or are just misrepresenting it i'm not on when you guys are. I work all day and have limited access to the net. something most everyone here knows, actually, because this is nothing new. it's ridiculously demoralizing to return to 20 more pages every time I come back when I'm already behind. but i'm still doing what I can at night when i'm here i'll get caught up this weekend, assuming bresh doesn't shoot me, but do me a favor and actually read what i'm posting This just reads really sincerely to me. It reminds me of how I felt during Imperial. I kinda feel shitty that I've contributed to the thread being so ridiculously long, because I know exactly what she's talking about here. It is really demoralizing to return to 20 more pages to play catchup. I end up skipping entire sections as town and feeling like a buster for doing it. And the thing that makes me think this is a townie sentiment is that this doesn't occur when I'm mafia. If new pages go up and I'm not staying on top of shit, I straight up just cruise control and don't care about them until I have to. It's the specific descriptor as demoralizing that's making me think this is a townie post, because as mafia I know I couldn't plausibly fake being demoralized, and rsoul's shown signs of it in her other posts too (wanting vig to shoot her to move the game along, not being in the right place to argue with people about whether she's pushed things). The other big hangup I'm having right now with rsoul being mafia (and yeah I know, I just said she's in my POE lynch pool looooooooool) is that it seems to center on her not pushing things or making cases. rsoul points to some things in her filter that indicate pushes, marv says they aren't strong enough / invested enough / etc. The thing is that rsoul really seems to believe that she made these pushes. I tend to side with marv in that I feel like she hasn't done a lot of strong questioning or pushing her reads, but at the same time, that isn't exclusive to her being town. She totally could think she pushed hard enough and marv just disagrees. That happens sometimes, and given her IRL workload, I'm kinda leaning toward that being the case. Maybe I'm just being a massive sucker and she's playing me hard with an appeal to emotion, maybe I'm overinterpreting her post and she is just mafia making excuses, but this all read really sincere to me, and I'm a little worried that no one else seemed to show any pause when they read this. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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i think that's a task that should be done | ||
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Holyflare
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On February 07 2015 07:06 marvellosity wrote: Eden: have you checked out how she behaved when she was under strong suspicion or whatever in the game she got lynched as town? i think that's a task that should be done http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=rsoultin&page=13 yes I did, kind/helpful and gave out reads all the time, 0 things alike between the games | ||
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marvellosity
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did she bang on about being demoralised and never caught up and tell the thread 100x that she has work and woe is me? | ||
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marvellosity
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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On February 07 2015 07:08 marvellosity wrote: sooooo..... did she bang on about being demoralised and never caught up and tell the thread 100x that she has work and woe is me? no | ||
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Eden1892
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Imma be totally honest with you guys, I'm hoping Breshke is vig and gets a shot off on Koshi and takes the n1 for us lol. I'll admit I don't have this game nearly as figured out as I hoped. This is the Real Zen right here lol Koshi definitely has to go. I don't really know what to make of JAT or Holyflare. I keep going back and forth on these two and I don't really get any serious resolution at the end of the day with either one. marv keeps giving me the heebie-jeebies at times with some of his posts, but I'm really not sure what kind of world we'd have to be in where scum!marv is contributing more and working harder to figure out the game than almost everyone else in the thread, so I'm ignoring that strange vibes and keeping him in my town pile. My brain says rsoultin has to be in any POE lynch pool, my heart says her posts seem really sincere and genuine and she's town. It sucks but every single time I've been in this spot this game so far, where my brain says X and my heart says Not-X, my heart's been right. I just wonder if it's right again. Breshke town. Can be town hero if he shoots mafia!Koshi tonight. LS can wait until next post. (DON'T FORGET TO READ NEXT POSTS IF YOU ARE READING THIS AFTER I GOT N1'D!) Palmar I've basically been tying to marv. If marv is town then just sheep marv on Palmar and hope for the best. If marv flips scum then lynch Palmar unless he bleeds town through every pore on his skin. batsnacks seems okay enough, but the lack of real pushes since EOD bothers me. Seems like he could easily enough just play to his meta, tunnel somebody until they flip town and then fish around for a new target as mafia. I get why he's being meta-read town but it's not something that's especially difficult to replicate. I feel like a fair bit of his comments during the night have been pointed enough that it looks like he's going somewhere (the example that comes to mind was his comment "or so he's claiming" in regards to me POEing rsoul mafia), but then it never materializes. Have we been too quick to just hand him a townread for replicating an easily-replicated meta? His filter isn't actually all that impressive if you replace "batsnacks" with "Anon Player X." In conclusion kill Koshi, trust marv, hope some of the scummy vets step up, please if you're gonna lynch someone like rsoul be careful to ensure you're being charitable in parsing suboptimal play due to busyness/demoralization/etc. vs suboptimal play due to rolling scum. | ||
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LightningStrike
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