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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 23:15 GMT
#1123
It's like back in Melee Mini last summer, when marv posted a pretty good case on GlowingBear that I couldn't actually rebut at all, but which I still found unconvincing for reasons I couldn't explain. I ended up being right, but if we had lynched the Bear instead, I wouldn't even be able to have a told-you-so moment, because I had no good reason for being right. It's so annoying. And if I'm wrong I just look like a massive tool
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 23:16 GMT
#1124
On February 05 2015 08:14 Holyflare wrote:
..................

Bruh I know. It's shit. I got nothin on why Damdred could be town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 23:38 GMT
#1134
Haha I just read sicklucker's filter after rsoultin mentioned him and came across this post

On February 04 2015 21:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
so jat both dandred and ls had totally made up town reads on you. Did you yell at them in the obs qt?

You were the only scumbuddy I ever had to yell at (goes to show how "good" your play was). And I didn't even once tell you to townread me.
From now on I will ignore your bullshit though. I won't let you feign activity by answering anything like this again.


This sounds hella fraudulent to me

I also think SL is probably town, both for the thing marv pointed out and his general demeanor. He's a lot more light and clearly having more fun, like he doesn't feel the need to prove himself this game. It fits with his self-declared preference for playing mafia, I think if he were mafia he would be more uptight than he has been because he'd be trying hard to win. And he also kept trying to do stuff d1 even after declaring that he would skip out on the day.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 23:41 GMT
#1136
Rofl how far up JAT's noggin is SL right now

Honest to god it reminds me of a rant I deleted from scum QT in NYE. I got so fuckin mad at SL b/c I didn't feel like I could reason with him. Like if this were LYLO and JAT were town and SL were trying to kill him, I could get it, but JAT just seems way too rustled by SL and I don't get why he would be
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 23:44 GMT
#1140
11/10 even better rebuttal than Holyflare's

Added meta defense of SL: He doesn't act like the game is solved as town until he actually has some read on enough players to believe it's solved. He didn't do it to start Imperial for example. He only did it in NYE Mafia (same-size game as this one) on d3 after town finally caught mafia and had some info to start doing real POE.

So that's not even a legit point, SL might get cocky sometimes about how much he thinks he's solved the game but he's not arrogant enough to declare it solved halfway through d1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 04 2015 23:44 GMT
#1141
On February 05 2015 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.


This is referring to SL?

Yes.


On February 05 2015 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2015 08:28 justanothertownie wrote:
But he also usually tries to figure the game out or acts like it is already solved as town. Instead he is just making shit up left and right and posting irrelevant nonsense.

yes, this is also true.


This is only half true for SL then.

Yeah he usually tries to figure out the game or acts like it is already solved as town but... he also makes shit up left and right and posts irrelevant nonsense as town.

Generally not without a purpose. He says dumb shit as town but you can see some line of thought. As scum he just posts random bullshit.

What has he posted that doesn't have some line of thought?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:06 GMT
#1152
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:12 GMT
#1155
On February 05 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?


What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?

I'd have to go through it in detail to argue what's wrong with the case. Idk if I should right now though, I don't think I'm doing a very good job analyzing things. I gave a brief description of why I thought SL was town before, maybe it'd be better if you rebutted that instead of me trying to rebut yours?

On February 05 2015 08:38 Eden1892 wrote:
I also think SL is probably town, both for the thing marv pointed out and his general demeanor. He's a lot more light and clearly having more fun, like he doesn't feel the need to prove himself this game. It fits with his self-declared preference for playing mafia, I think if he were mafia he would be more uptight than he has been because he'd be trying hard to win. And he also kept trying to do stuff d1 even after declaring that he would skip out on the day.

On February 05 2015 08:44 Eden1892 wrote:
Added meta defense of SL: He doesn't act like the game is solved as town until he actually has some read on enough players to believe it's solved. He didn't do it to start Imperial for example. He only did it in NYE Mafia (same-size game as this one) on d3 after town finally caught mafia and had some info to start doing real POE.

So that's not even a legit point, SL might get cocky sometimes about how much he thinks he's solved the game but he's not arrogant enough to declare it solved halfway through d1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:13 GMT
#1156
On February 05 2015 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:08 Damdred wrote:
On February 05 2015 09:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Why the hell is this game so frustrating.

I think Damdred's post was pretty town but I felt like when I read SL earlier he was town. Now people want to kill SL and I still don't really see it either!

Can we just kill JAT and then I'll get nightkilled to throw people off and not have to think about this anymore?


What was so towny about his filter? What is wrong with my case exactly?


what's so towny about his towny filter though?

can you do something please
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:15 GMT
#1159
On February 05 2015 09:14 Holyflare wrote:
i pretty much shut down whatever nonsense you start to bring up and put you on the right tracks, that's a great town skill to have!

What do you mean, "on the right tracks"? I'm not on any tracks at all! That's the whole damn problem.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:20 GMT
#1165
On February 05 2015 09:16 Holyflare wrote:
what's wrong with damd/rs at the moment? rs is pretty much gaining mafia points every second tbh

Thoughts on Damdred's case on sicklucker?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:27 GMT
#1172
On February 05 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
that sounds familiar damdred

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2015 11:47 Damdred wrote:
I am avoiding hf because his heads up his ass atm and its not enjoyable talking to him much


Shit like this is really pissing me off. Why are you just sniping at him from the sidelines? He posts a case that sounds pretty townie and you're content just to dump on him instead of engage it or rethink your position or even just read it, argue why it doesn't matter and move on. You don't seem like you give a shit tbh.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:32 GMT
#1173
On February 05 2015 09:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
rs is like the biggest mafia and hardly anyone is mentioning her and goes off making cases on other people instead

i'm still with you

Why do you think Damdred and rsoultin are mafia?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:38 GMT
#1177
On February 05 2015 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:27 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 05 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
that sounds familiar damdred

On February 04 2015 11:47 Damdred wrote:
I am avoiding hf because his heads up his ass atm and its not enjoyable talking to him much


Shit like this is really pissing me off. Why are you just sniping at him from the sidelines? He posts a case that sounds pretty townie and you're content just to dump on him instead of engage it or rethink your position or even just read it, argue why it doesn't matter and move on. You don't seem like you give a shit tbh.


there's just something weird about the case that he's presenting when he's said ls is sure mafia all game

That's not an answer. There are three mafia in this game. He can think someone is sure mafia (or not; I got the sense he was backing off of it a little bit? Damdred what do you think about LS and what changed if so?) and still make a case against someone else. His case makes zero mention of LS either way, so why is that relevant?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:44 GMT
#1179
Damdred is town. Do not lynch this guy
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:47 GMT
#1183
My BS detector is through the roof on Holyflare. He just doesn't give a shit. His reads haven't evolved at all since game start even though rsoultin and Damdred have both significantly changed their behavior and been more townie (and in Damdred's case productive). When something happens that contradicts his read (like Damdred's case on SL or me arguing with him) he just tries to shut down discussion with stupid one-liners. I just can't bring myself to believe that he believes what he's saying about rsoultin and Damdred when both of them have noticeably shaped up.

vote holyflare
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:49 GMT
#1186
On February 05 2015 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2015 09:38 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 05 2015 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
On February 05 2015 09:27 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 05 2015 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
that sounds familiar damdred

On February 04 2015 11:47 Damdred wrote:
I am avoiding hf because his heads up his ass atm and its not enjoyable talking to him much


Shit like this is really pissing me off. Why are you just sniping at him from the sidelines? He posts a case that sounds pretty townie and you're content just to dump on him instead of engage it or rethink your position or even just read it, argue why it doesn't matter and move on. You don't seem like you give a shit tbh.


there's just something weird about the case that he's presenting when he's said ls is sure mafia all game

That's not an answer. There are three mafia in this game. He can think someone is sure mafia (or not; I got the sense he was backing off of it a little bit? Damdred what do you think about LS and what changed if so?) and still make a case against someone else. His case makes zero mention of LS either way, so why is that relevant?


it is my answer I just think it's weird to be so spread out making cases on someone like sl when there's other people like rs etc that aren't particularly being talked about but are scummy

i mean yes it's a good case and I'll probably be voting sl and rs or something but i don't really have to comment on anything if I don't want to

WTF is this garbage?

Why is it weird for Damdred to be "spread out" on SL when he (a) already scumread SL and (b) had a pretty good case (by your admission!) to make on him? What's spread out about that and why is it weird?

And you now don't even have Damdred as mafia? You'll even maybe follow his case onto SL? Are you kidding me?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:55 GMT
#1189
I'm not convinced rsoultin is significantly different from her town game, that's pretty much the bottom line for me. I feel like she tried to figure some things out with her questions on p2, p4 and p5 of her filter. They weren't great questions, but I'm unconvinced they were questions coming from mafia. Her tone reads sincere and just like what I'd expect from her given her previous games. That's really all there is to it. Neither you nor marv has said anything that ultimately swayed me about her, which is odd to me because I did get swayed on Damdred for a while. Like if she's so obviously mafia why are you so unconvincing in trying to push it?

I don't buy it.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 00:55 GMT
#1190
On February 05 2015 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
i'm lazy sure but it doesn't make me mafia

On February 05 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
i have done loads?

yeah which is it bruh? having trouble keeping track of your self-assessment rn.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 05 2015 01:01 GMT
#1193
So why the fuck are you being lazy when your scumreads are making themselves more clearly townie by the day? If you're aware you're being lazy and you're in the thread, why aren't you doing something to be productive??

Why am I not supposed to be lynching you right now? You're supposed to be one of the best players here and you're basically outright telling me you don't care.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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