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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 18:27 GMT
#1481
Why, do you really think the case on robik being afk is better than the case I just presented?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 01 2015 18:27 GMT
#1482
On February 02 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote:
Eden should be the lynch today, his play has been totally uneven and inconsistent with any iteration of his town game and tonely sounds close to the way he played in New Years Eve mafia.

Eden comes into the game being sarcastic and useless, he has several posts that are questionable at the time. The first post that is a head scratcher for me is the weak soft defense of me. He is disagreeing with HF case but draws no conclusions from it, he doesn't seem to draw any conclusions in his early filter at all his thought process is just totally devoid and lacks focus and direction. No reads at all are given in the early going and no scum hunting is going on, when this is somewhat alluded to Eden begins to pull the I do not want to get N1 card.

His first large post is mainly him complaining about getting killed N1, with a question to SL at the very end. The post lacks any real content and has a real feeling of trying to look like hes doing something rather than what he was being accused of. Still he lacks conclusions and any type of reads in the thread at all.

He also sheeps a vote onto SL, but its very noncommittal vote that can be taken back very easily. Its a really weird vote that just doesn't seem right, I can sheep this but wait theres more. Just feels like trying to follow along with the thread sentiment at that point while looking for a way out and keeping options open.

First real reads in the thread are that Marv and HF looked ok and then that Rsoultin has a tentative town read because of his push on me. This is the second time that we see Edens scum hunting come down to sheeping people and not given any real thought to it. But I would be a good lynch for my flip on Palmar, but no real thought seems to go into it or fact checking, says they have read my filter but its a weird read because he says he can understand, and then goes on to call Palmar town even though hes starting to scum read me for not wanting to lynch Palmar? That doesn't make sense to me.

After this post there really is not much of substantial value in the filter its just a lot of one liners some of them wanting to kill me, and then my blue claim and he looks for somewhere to put his vote and tells everyone to vote FF. Gives no explanation really why FF should be the lynch that day and never realy pushes it just afk a vote on FF and leaves the thread with the only content after that being that Palmar is town.

Town reading people for no reason
Inconsitant thought process
Not scum hunting at all, barely giving any reads
Only sheeping people
Throwing away his vote

Eden is scum vote him


I am enchanted by your grandiose words, by your burly manliness, by your unwavering confidence and your courage.

If by my life or death I can protect you, I will.

You have my sword.
Computer says mafia
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 18:30 GMT
#1483
Damdred, I didn't get to look at all of Eden1892's filter, but I don't think it's as bad as you say it is.

Eden was pressuring sicklucker with the "my meta says" phrase as well.

I can understand that he says Palmar is town while still scumreading you for changing your stance on Palmar. He isn't scumreading you for not wanting to lynch Palmar, he is scumreading you for changing your stance without Palmar doing anything.

I think I will leave my vote on Robik. I want Robik lynched. I don't know how people will respond to the Eden1892 lynch, I wish I could be here, but I can't. Therefore I will go with my instinct.

Whatever happens, hopefully you guys lynch a scum.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 18:31 GMT
#1484
If I had more time to explain it, I could. I don't have that time. I'm sorry.

See you tonight.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 18:32 GMT
#1485
Lol, Palmar.

Damdy, I'll lynch Eden with you if you can get the votes. Trfel, you should take the time to read Eden's 5-page filter if you can.

He wanted to ignore Palmar for shit reasons. His defense of me was eh and weird in that he was the only one doing it. If an entire town thinks I'm doing something scummy, it's probably because I am.

And I'm sorry but an FF or LS for lynch as default because he can't push Damdy anymore really is low-hanging fruit.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
February 01 2015 18:34 GMT
#1486
Hello friends! I am back. What can chezitwo do for you?

I have 40 pages to catch up to. In the meantime I will sheep marv.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 18:34 GMT
#1487
[QUOTE]On January 31 2015 15:44 Eden1892 wrote:
I see no issue with my reasoning. If it's your shtick as town to criticize quick role claims, and you know it is, then you're going to do it as mafia even if you're actually happy about it, because you're going to try to emulate your perception of your town behavior. You're going to do it, and because you're doing it artificially instead of naturally, it might not be a perfect facsimile of your town behavior. You might be underselling it, like you don't really care... or you might be overselling it, and become unreasonably upset about it, and unreasonably defensive when people call you on it.

In other words, exactly what I was worried about with you. Your statement that this is what "your meta says," as I'm interpreting it, seems to reinforce this idea, because it indicates that you were deliberately trying to interpret your own meta on the subject, when as town you presumably wouldn't be bothered about it.

I think you need to answer my question now. Am I misinterpreting your statement I quoted, and if so, how? If I'm not, how else am I supposed to interpret your behavior other than "you oversold your town proclivity to hate on blue claims because you aren't actually town"?

Work with me here. I'm entertaining the idea of your innocence, but if you don't cooperate with me when I ask a basic and important question, you give me very little recourse to assuming your guilt.[/QUOTE]

Look at this, the bolded looks fucking weird. And SL NEVER really answers in a very good way that could be innocent but Eden totally drops it past a couple one liners and moves on to pushing me then afking on ff?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 18:35 GMT
#1488
On February 02 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 15:44 Eden1892 wrote:
I see no issue with my reasoning. If it's your shtick as town to criticize quick role claims, and you know it is, then you're going to do it as mafia even if you're actually happy about it, because you're going to try to emulate your perception of your town behavior. You're going to do it, and because you're doing it artificially instead of naturally, it might not be a perfect facsimile of your town behavior. You might be underselling it, like you don't really care... or you might be overselling it, and become unreasonably upset about it, and unreasonably defensive when people call you on it.

In other words, exactly what I was worried about with you. Your statement that this is what "your meta says," as I'm interpreting it, seems to reinforce this idea, because it indicates that you were deliberately trying to interpret your own meta on the subject, when as town you presumably wouldn't be bothered about it.

I think you need to answer my question now. Am I misinterpreting your statement I quoted, and if so, how? If I'm not, how else am I supposed to interpret your behavior other than "you oversold your town proclivity to hate on blue claims because you aren't actually town"?

Work with me here. I'm entertaining the idea of your innocence, but if you don't cooperate with me when I ask a basic and important question, you give me very little recourse to assuming your guilt.


Look at this, the bolded looks fucking weird. And SL NEVER really answers in a very good way that could be innocent but Eden totally drops it past a couple one liners and moves on to pushing me then afking on ff?


fixed format
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 18:35 GMT
#1489
Also I have the votes Rsoultin if you switch
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
February 01 2015 18:35 GMT
#1490
On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo

oh..
I thought you were my friend.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 18:36 GMT
#1491
On February 02 2015 03:30 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, I didn't get to look at all of Eden1892's filter, but I don't think it's as bad as you say it is.

Eden was pressuring sicklucker with the "my meta says" phrase as well.

I can understand that he says Palmar is town while still scumreading you for changing your stance on Palmar. He isn't scumreading you for not wanting to lynch Palmar, he is scumreading you for changing your stance without Palmar doing anything.

I think I will leave my vote on Robik. I want Robik lynched. I don't know how people will respond to the Eden1892 lynch, I wish I could be here, but I can't. Therefore I will go with my instinct.

Whatever happens, hopefully you guys lynch a scum.


Besides what I just posted, half of the thread had mentioned this weird read, sl was getting pressured from all angles.

I'm not sure that SL can't be scum here but i'm more convinced that eden is scum at this point with the lack of follow up on things and the going after low hanging fruit with no real push.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 18:41 GMT
#1492
On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo

oh..
I thought you were my friend.


Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
February 01 2015 18:42 GMT
#1493
Marv votes me and no one follows? I do not understand. Maybe it needs help.
##Unvote
##Vote Chezitwo
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 18:42 GMT
#1494
I had band practice. It just got canceled. I'll be here until the deadline.

Please ignore my last few posts, I will take an in depth look at this now.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 18:42 GMT
#1495
Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez.

I was townreading you. You're making me sad
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
February 01 2015 18:42 GMT
#1496
On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:
On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo

oh..
I thought you were my friend.


Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF?

I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 01 2015 18:45 GMT
#1497
On February 02 2015 03:42 Trfel wrote:
I had band practice. It just got canceled. I'll be here until the deadline.

Please ignore my last few posts, I will take an in depth look at this now.

What instrument you play in the band? Also when you get done checking out Eden tell us your thoughts on him and compare this game to his scum game on New Years Eve Mafia and here is the link for it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474389-new-years-eve-party-mini-mafia?user=Eden1892
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 18:47 GMT
#1498
On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:
On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo

oh..
I thought you were my friend.


Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF?

I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember.


How long have you been playing on this site, Chez?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 18:48 GMT
#1499
On February 02 2015 03:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 03:42 Trfel wrote:
I had band practice. It just got canceled. I'll be here until the deadline.

Please ignore my last few posts, I will take an in depth look at this now.

What instrument you play in the band? Also when you get done checking out Eden tell us your thoughts on him and compare this game to his scum game on New Years Eve Mafia and here is the link for it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/474389-new-years-eve-party-mini-mafia?user=Eden1892

I play trumpet.

I'm not going to use meta here. I don't feel that I know enough about mafia or about Eden1892's play to be qualified to judge this. My usage of meta is limited to when I don't feel that it can possibly be wrong, and I usually use it to try and townread people (or rather, not scumread them, since I don't really like townreads), not the opposite.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
February 01 2015 18:49 GMT
#1500
On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez.

I was townreading you. You're making me sad

Why does my self vote make you think I am not?
On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 03:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 02 2015 03:35 Chezitwo wrote:
On February 02 2015 01:49 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: Chezitwo

oh..
I thought you were my friend.


Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF?

I am good at using the search function when I know what I am looking for. With Palmar, I remembered. With FF, I had nothing to remember.


How long have you been playing on this site, Chez?

Since the dawn of time.
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