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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:05 GMT
#1381
EBWOP - That same mistake with Robik.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 01 2015 15:05 GMT
#1382
On February 02 2015 00:03 Half the Sky wrote:
Figures, I go to bed, and I have to catch up on 14 pages...

After reading everything, it's between Palmar and Robik for me. The case against Robik is very good, but as has been discussed with the setup, it's possible there might be 3 blues.

I've put my vote on Palmar for now.

Filter diving Robik one more time.

I know there are quite a few lurkers, but I highly doubt the entire scumteam are all lurking, seeing as Trfel mentioned something along these lines. I know it happened to an extent in Student IV, but LS was an active scum, though he was caught out based on the things he was saying.

There is no setup with 3 blues lol............. Also my team was afk in that game when I was scum but so was Holyflares to a extent.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 01 2015 15:06 GMT
#1383
On February 02 2015 00:05 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and saw the case on Robik but the thing about Robik is that he claimed blue yes but I really hate the claim from him. Also Damdred did claim blue too so we got our 2 unCCed blues already. Also people still arguing that sicklucker is scum even after I gave a explanation on to why he not a good lynch Day 1 and more likely is town too. Also FF is calling me scum too -.-


I'm remembering that analysis from Geript in Newbie LX. Where Celestial claimed blue, and then fucked off and did nothing.
I'm starting to wonder if some of us could be making that same mistake.

Until we got another blue claim we got to take it as it is at face value.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:07 GMT
#1384
On February 02 2015 00:05 LightningStrike wrote:
There is no setup with 3 blues lol............. Also my team was afk in that game when I was scum but so was Holyflares to a extent.


Look at the modifications in the OP:

On January 30 2015 10:15 Blazinghand wrote:
Possible Setups


Base Setups - pick one at random:
A) 1 That One Program, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 OS X, 1 tar, 1 | grep, 8 Linux Distros
B) 2 That One Programs, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 Favored Distro, 1 tar, 8 Linux Distros
C) 2 That One Programs, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 Favored Distro, 1 | grep, 8 Linux Distros
D) 1 That One Program, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 OS X, 2 Favored Distros, 8 Linux Distros


Modifications - pick one at random:
1) Remove one Linux Distro and add one Favored Distro.
2) Use setup as-is.
3) Remove one Favored Distro and add one Linux Distro if possible.

Each Base Setup is equally likely. Each Modification is equally likely. Who gets what role will be RNGed.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 01 2015 15:08 GMT
#1385
On February 02 2015 00:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 00:05 LightningStrike wrote:
There is no setup with 3 blues lol............. Also my team was afk in that game when I was scum but so was Holyflares to a extent.


Look at the modifications in the OP:

Show nested quote +
On January 30 2015 10:15 Blazinghand wrote:
Possible Setups


Base Setups - pick one at random:
A) 1 That One Program, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 OS X, 1 tar, 1 | grep, 8 Linux Distros
B) 2 That One Programs, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 Favored Distro, 1 tar, 8 Linux Distros
C) 2 That One Programs, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 Favored Distro, 1 | grep, 8 Linux Distros
D) 1 That One Program, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 OS X, 2 Favored Distros, 8 Linux Distros


Modifications - pick one at random:
1) Remove one Linux Distro and add one Favored Distro.
2) Use setup as-is.
3) Remove one Favored Distro and add one Linux Distro if possible.

Each Base Setup is equally likely. Each Modification is equally likely. Who gets what role will be RNGed.


Forgot that there is a chance of 3 blues I wish it was a bit easier knowing all the setups possible lol.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:17 GMT
#1386
Other general comments:

Eden's posting has dropped off compared to the super townie I recall from Hammertime, probably need to look into him for Day 2.

Also noted Rasputin's comment on my thoroughness. Fair play, ask away tomorrow. I'll just say though I was tipsy the last two nights. I had the choice between playing this way, or not playing at all. Take that as you will.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:19 GMT
#1387
I'm going to change my vote to Robik. Though it was weekend and he did piss off and do nothing after that claim. He AFKed Hammertime and was scum. Palmar is still largely a policy vote for me.

I realise meta arguments have been made against Palmar...

Palmar could be trolling as either alignment as I learnt in Hammertime.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 15:27 GMT
#1388
@HF you are being a hypocrite, which is fine I thought better of you honestly and you refuse in the very least to even see what I'm trying to say instead turning it into the biggest fight we've ever had.

Hts why tobik over Eden at this point, robik has been afk bit he's blue we should give that a day cycle to see what shakes out at this point. Edens play has been a lot more lop sided tto a lot of things
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:30 GMT
#1389
Other thoughts:

Trfel is definitely looking better upon re-reading. Same for Rasputin.

After reading that large post (the first four key points) by Sicklucker, I'm inclined to think not lynching him for D1, and thankfully it doesn't look like he will be.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 15:31 GMT
#1390
Edens pretty bad actually, super sarcastic unhelpful until he gets called out. After that big posts, then spotlite shifts and Eden doesn't do much
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:36 GMT
#1391
On February 02 2015 00:27 Damdred wrote:
@HF you are being a hypocrite, which is fine I thought better of you honestly and you refuse in the very least to even see what I'm trying to say instead turning it into the biggest fight we've ever had.

Hts why tobik over Eden at this point, robik has been afk bit he's blue we should give that a day cycle to see what shakes out at this point. Edens play has been a lot more lop sided tto a lot of things


From your perspective, weren't you the one who said it was his scum meta to afk? I'm just thinking back to Newbie LX when Celestial claimed blue and fucked off, it's smelling like the same thing here. If he were cop/doc, I'd think he'd be inclined to NOT claim D1 and try and do some work to maintain credibility as a townie.

Eden was at least somewhat active and contributing earlier in the day. I disagreed with his point on Palmar for instance based on our exp in Hammertime, but I can see why he's making it.

If you're saying the lurkiness is Robik's scum meta, why are you inclined to believe the blue claim?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 15:37 GMT
#1392
Hts who's the rest of the scum team then? You feel disconnected right now from thread
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 15:37 GMT
#1393
On February 02 2015 00:27 Damdred wrote:
@HF you are being a hypocrite, which is fine I thought better of you honestly and you refuse in the very least to even see what I'm trying to say instead turning it into the biggest fight we've ever had.

Hts why tobik over Eden at this point, robik has been afk bit he's blue we should give that a day cycle to see what shakes out at this point. Edens play has been a lot more lop sided tto a lot of things


You're telling me I'm lying when it's irrelevant to the game and I just don't care enough.

Are you bot buying what eden said about getting nk'd?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:37 GMT
#1394
On February 02 2015 00:31 Damdred wrote:
Edens pretty bad actually, super sarcastic unhelpful until he gets called out. After that big posts, then spotlite shifts and Eden doesn't do much


The same thing happened in Hammertime. Very sarcastic at the off. Lian called him out D1 and he shaped up. He was killed N1, was VT.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 15:39 GMT
#1395
Not really, at one level it feels sincere but it sounds more like bs honestly and an excuse to play like he did earlier. Also can we really say that edens play has dramatically improves since then? The number of big posts have increased but not sure if content measures up to it
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 15:39 GMT
#1396
On February 02 2015 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
Are you bot buying what eden said about getting nk'd?


Pretty sure I said it before, but I'm treating that part as NAI.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 15:41 GMT
#1397
Alright, I can make my setup argument vs. how many lynches we have argument again, which basically just proves that it's possible to claim blue as scum, do jack-all and ride it out.

I can also sit here and tell y'all how there is no good town motivation for Robik's immediate claim Day 1 (and there isn't) though that doesn't actually preclude him from doing it as town, cause he can still be just an idiot who then AFKd.

The honest truth though is that I genuinely think Palmar and Robik are equally good lynches here. In some ways I'd argue Palmar is better cause he's not the blue claim and he's actually been in the thread doing jack-all vice Robik who has demonstrably not been around anywhere.

I do agree with Trfel's intuition on that claim, though...it matches with mine. I can see a ton more reason for scum to make that claim like that than town. If y'all want to lynch either of them, great. I do not want a blue who can ride out his claim the entire game solely because it's possible to have 3 blue roles this game (while actually more likely that there are only 2, statistically) because town is too scared to lynch someone for doing jack shit after claiming. He cannot and should not be in MYLO without stepping up his game.

tldr: Read Trfel's case on Robik if you're not good with the Palmar lynch. I think if we lynch either of those we've got a great chance of catching scum today.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 15:43 GMT
#1398
On February 02 2015 00:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
Are you bot buying what eden said about getting nk'd?


Pretty sure I said it before, but I'm treating that part as NAI.


Yeh i know you said that :p

Gonna mull some things over
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 15:45 GMT
#1399
Also, I'm not really liking Eden this game on a gut level that I'd have to iron out, but why do people want him as a lynch over all the other possible lynches today?

Damdred, can you answer that? HF?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 15:46 GMT
#1400
I agree in this setupwhat robik did is the safest thing for mafia gf to do. However we can have other information help us in lynching him another day.

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