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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 07:45 GMT
#1221
Can anyone tell me what makes FecalFeast's play this game worse than his play in his other games, such as Carol of the Bells?

FecalFeast lynch is generally preferred to a Palmar lynch because the hope is that Palmar starts playing seriously and scumhunting while FecalFeast will probably continue to mostly joke around, right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 07:45 GMT
#1222
On January 31 2015 20:40 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I haven't read my role pm

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2014 11:01 Palmar wrote:
Just so it's clear. Until @chairman comes into thread and says "I read my role pm" I'm not doing, reading or voting anything else.

##Vote Palmar

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 07:46 GMT
#1223
On February 01 2015 16:39 Eden1892 wrote:
@rsoultin
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 08:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:10 marvellosity wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
I see a case on sicklucker. I see a case on you as well. At the moment I see no need to make said cases. I suppose I'm also willing to lynch Palmar.

I'm not sure about Eden1892 and Damdred. Need some more stuff from them.


Why not make the cases, unless all you see is sheeping others' points? I explained my read on HTS about ten times, and apart from me not acting like a rabid animal or something (and I didn't in Protoss, either) the case on me is bullocks.

Eden's read on me rang true, but he'd be a fool to say anything that wasn't true since I'm right in the game with him.

Eden, why is Palmar town?

He literally just got mislynched like yesterday in Hammertime Mafia for doing this. He dicked around most of d1 and was wrong about somebody when he finally gave a strong read so he got ML'd d2. marv can say what he wants about me not knowing Palmar's style enough, but I struggle too much to believe that he goes right back to the thing that got him lynched when he's mafia.

it's not the same thing at all...

How is it not? The only thing missing is him suddenly deciding somebody is mafia and hardcore tunneling them the rest of the day while still trolling around.

so the only thing missing is him legimitately making a push on someone with some basis?

duh...

I don't feel like you're thinking this through. If he's mafia he has to push eventually or he'll get lynched. Unless he buses his push will be wrong. At that point he will have trolled then wrongly pushed someone which is exactly how he just got lynched. Why put himself in that spot if he's mafia by trolling early?


@HF when I went to dig this back up I saw you said "read past games." can you save me the effort I'm not going to put forth to do this and tell me why I'm supposed to think I'm wrong were I to do so


I saw this when you fist posted it, Eden, and I still just really don't find it compelling. It's like "he's doing a thing that could be scumread", "as scum he wouldn't want to be scumread", "so he wouldn't be doing scummy things if he were scum".

Eh. If we used that premise for all players, we'd just lynch the towniest, so...unless something in particular makes Palmar a unique snowflake in this regard (hehe term from Protoss) not feeling it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 07:47 GMT
#1224
On February 01 2015 16:45 Trfel wrote:
Can anyone tell me what makes FecalFeast's play this game worse than his play in his other games, such as Carol of the Bells?

FecalFeast lynch is generally preferred to a Palmar lynch because the hope is that Palmar starts playing seriously and scumhunting while FecalFeast will probably continue to mostly joke around, right?


like just reading from the start of page 2/3 I can already see he actually has multiple reads and thought progression? Here I can't really see it and he's only really talked about chez as a scum read but not actually at all other than to ask other ppl about him
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 07:48 GMT
#1225
Right, marvellosity has a 100% record against Palmar, doesn't he. 100% seems like pretty good odds. Maybe that isn't a horrible idea...

So we're down to FecalFeast or Palmar?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 07:48 GMT
#1226
seems like a pretty good list to me
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2015 07:51 GMT
#1227
I don't think calling my argument meta is an accurate descriptor. It's based off of one very recent result instead of an overarching analysis of his play, and it's only based off of that because I believe it's reasonable to think that Palmar would adapt to a failed result from his last game.

And I'm not arguing it affirmatively makes him town, I'm trying to reduce the argument that it makes him mafia down and falsify it to get a read. My thought remains that, coming off a game where Palmar got lynched as town for trolling too hard and then whiffing on the d1 lynch, he wouldn't troll hard as mafia, because then he either doesn't push and gets lynched and flips, or he does push, whiffs on the lynch, and then gets lynched and flips. It's just begging to get lynched basically and while I could see town Palmar just not caring about whether his actions are begging for a lynch, idk that I see mafia Palmar doing the same
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2015 07:52 GMT
#1228
On February 01 2015 16:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 16:39 Eden1892 wrote:
@rsoultin
On February 01 2015 08:54 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:10 marvellosity wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 01 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
I see a case on sicklucker. I see a case on you as well. At the moment I see no need to make said cases. I suppose I'm also willing to lynch Palmar.

I'm not sure about Eden1892 and Damdred. Need some more stuff from them.


Why not make the cases, unless all you see is sheeping others' points? I explained my read on HTS about ten times, and apart from me not acting like a rabid animal or something (and I didn't in Protoss, either) the case on me is bullocks.

Eden's read on me rang true, but he'd be a fool to say anything that wasn't true since I'm right in the game with him.

Eden, why is Palmar town?

He literally just got mislynched like yesterday in Hammertime Mafia for doing this. He dicked around most of d1 and was wrong about somebody when he finally gave a strong read so he got ML'd d2. marv can say what he wants about me not knowing Palmar's style enough, but I struggle too much to believe that he goes right back to the thing that got him lynched when he's mafia.

it's not the same thing at all...

How is it not? The only thing missing is him suddenly deciding somebody is mafia and hardcore tunneling them the rest of the day while still trolling around.

so the only thing missing is him legimitately making a push on someone with some basis?

duh...

I don't feel like you're thinking this through. If he's mafia he has to push eventually or he'll get lynched. Unless he buses his push will be wrong. At that point he will have trolled then wrongly pushed someone which is exactly how he just got lynched. Why put himself in that spot if he's mafia by trolling early?


@HF when I went to dig this back up I saw you said "read past games." can you save me the effort I'm not going to put forth to do this and tell me why I'm supposed to think I'm wrong were I to do so


I saw this when you fist posted it, Eden, and I still just really don't find it compelling. It's like "he's doing a thing that could be scumread", "as scum he wouldn't want to be scumread", "so he wouldn't be doing scummy things if he were scum".

Eh. If we used that premise for all players, we'd just lynch the towniest, so...unless something in particular makes Palmar a unique snowflake in this regard (hehe term from Protoss) not feeling it.

Not quite, it's "he's doing a thing that is literally setting himself up to get lynched unless he lynches mafia," "as mafia he wouldn't want to do that while as town he might not be as concerned b/c he's confident he can lynch mafia," "therefore it's more likely that he's town and digging a hole he thinks he can climb out of rather than mafia digging a hole he knows he can't."
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 07:52 GMT
#1229
On February 01 2015 16:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 16:45 Trfel wrote:
Can anyone tell me what makes FecalFeast's play this game worse than his play in his other games, such as Carol of the Bells?

FecalFeast lynch is generally preferred to a Palmar lynch because the hope is that Palmar starts playing seriously and scumhunting while FecalFeast will probably continue to mostly joke around, right?


like just reading from the start of page 2/3 I can already see he actually has multiple reads and thought progression? Here I can't really see it and he's only really talked about chez as a scum read but not actually at all other than to ask other ppl about him

Hm, you're right. Guess I should check my facts before I open my mouth.

Well, that's embarrasing.

Anyway, voting FecalFeast now.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2015 07:55 GMT
#1230
k i'm probably out for now

gonna try to be a shitty coworker and phonepost tomorrow, no promises though
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 07:55 GMT
#1231
yeh bed for realsies now
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 01 2015 07:56 GMT
#1232
Now were talking.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 07:57 GMT
#1233
Yeah, if you guys are going to bed, then I will too.

Good night all.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 01 2015 08:01 GMT
#1234
zzzzzzz bye
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 08:02 GMT
#1235
Eh, I didn't have a problem with FF's filter when I reread it just now -_-

But that could be cause of the sleep deprivation.

What I saw looked like him trying to get involved and figure things out? Bah, doing the rest in the morning, and looking specifically at those 2/3 pages eden.

Right now I'm still thinking Palmar or Robik as top lynches. Although I can kinda see your point, Eden, again it's pretty Palmar-specific. Other players not doing stuff ppl go hey he's not doing stuff, could be scum. Palmar it's as scum he wouldn't just be not doing stuff? So if it's not based on meta I dunnae what it's actually based on.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 08:07 GMT
#1236
On February 01 2015 17:02 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I didn't have a problem with FF's filter when I reread it just now -_-

But that could be cause of the sleep deprivation.

What I saw looked like him trying to get involved and figure things out? Bah, doing the rest in the morning, and looking specifically at those 2/3 pages eden.

Right now I'm still thinking Palmar or Robik as top lynches. Although I can kinda see your point, Eden, again it's pretty Palmar-specific. Other players not doing stuff ppl go hey he's not doing stuff, could be scum. Palmar it's as scum he wouldn't just be not doing stuff? So if it's not based on meta I dunnae what it's actually based on.


palmar can do nothing as both alignments so it's irrelevant but he hasn't read his role pm which is what he POLICIES people for in other games, the last time he said he hadn't read it (with me) was world heavyweight 2 afaik and he was mafia so that makes him way more likely to be mafia this time than the read of him not doing anything making him towny
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 08:09 GMT
#1237
and meeeeeeh i dunno about fecal, you might actually be kind of right now that i re-re-reread him after having read carol and stuff too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 08:09 GMT
#1238
but then that leaves me stumped for a mafia team somewhat
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 08:10 GMT
#1239
Ugh.

That was my last reload before sleeping.

Why do you do this to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 08:10 GMT
#1240
i dunno why do i do this to myself
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