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Given the discussion on LS right now...
Off the cuff, I'm getting the usual LS town read from what I've read of him so far. LS is someone however, that people do tend to scumread, sometimes as has been said he's not fully articulate and sometimes a scum player can take advantage of that (honestly, I did in Newbie LX...yeah I know LS even mentioned he's still bitter on that).
Even in Carol, he was sheeping left, right, everywhere and the only reason he wasn't being scumread in that game was because he claimed a ghost fairly early on.
So someone (not nec Damdred) scumreading him could be a potential red flag, maybe.
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EBWOP - someone scumreading LS could potentially be a red flag, if it appears he's going for an "easy lynch" etc.
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On February 01 2015 13:20 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 13:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Given the discussion on LS right now...
Off the cuff, I'm getting the usual LS town read from what I've read of him so far. LS is someone however, that people do tend to scumread, sometimes as has been said he's not fully articulate and sometimes a scum player can take advantage of that (honestly, I did in Newbie LX...yeah I know LS even mentioned he's still bitter on that).
Even in Carol, he was sheeping left, right, everywhere and the only reason he wasn't being scumread in that game was because he claimed a ghost fairly early on.
So someone (not nec Damdred) scumreading him could be a potential red flag, maybe. Is there anyone scumreading him??
Discussion on previous page:
On February 01 2015 13:05 rsoultin wrote:
It's just you sad what...that he LS wasn't scumhunting. That he wasn't acting like he does when he's town. That he didn't have 3 townreads already based on meta...then nah you're okay with LS when you're asked. Just finding it hard to buy that those arguments don't add up to at least a scumlean. What more would you need from LS to call him scum?
On February 01 2015 13:10 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 12:55 Damdred wrote:
I don't get why palmar is so hard to wrap your head around, I didn't say he's town like you are inferring I said I didn't want to lynch him stop being dense.
Idk why you are being purposefully dense about ls. SL gave a question mark a hard town for nothing ok. My read on Ls is very good. Ls likes to sheep people. But he had a good read as to why im not mafia and went agains tthe grain and called the leading wagon at the time town. Ls is toen
Throwing my two cents. Still looking into the part with LS/SL before I move on.
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Cheers Rasputin.
(In the meantime I've unvoted you. I get the sense what you have been doing is town-driven. Accurate, that's another question...)
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On February 01 2015 13:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
everyone give me thoughts on chezzy-2 please his filter is gross
Since you're in here, to be blunt, yours isn't much better, especially when I see this:
On February 01 2015 13:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred looks fine to me. No glaring contradictions or anything. His reads stay consistent, he's scumreading SL...
I'll check eden's push but can someone give me the spark notes on why damdred is scum?
Damdred's progression has been a point of contention, you would go a far way to say in detail why Rasputin is wrong.
Plus, you are saying he looks fine but then you're asking for the notes on why damdred is scum? Why aren't you making your own conclusions?
Start by reading pages 24-26...
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On February 01 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 13:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
HF is that still your complete list or is anything different? I like rsoul a bit more, damdred has moved sideways and the afkers are dropping (chez/robik), I agreed with chez at the start on you but I did that in the last game I played with chez and he afk'd and was mafia
Can you elaborate on Robik's scum meta? Does he tend to afk?
Just finished Hammertime, and he was scum. AFKed in that game largely. Not sure if that's a regular thing with him.
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On February 01 2015 13:30 Damdred wrote:
Omfg just lynch trfel this is hilarious.
I'll deal with hf later or something, but trfel is so scum
The scum signs I'm seeing from Trfel is sheeping thread sentiment to some extent but I am seeing some followup, at least he appeared to do so with these:
On February 01 2015 10:36 Trfel wrote:
But that's about all that I see. Nowhere near enough to make me want to lynch rsoultin, since she provided consistent explanations, even if I disagree with them. Therefore, I apologize for jumping on that wagon like I did without checking the support first. Marvellosity and Holyflare did a fine job of questioning, I didn't need to go yelling too.
On a side note, I am really curious. Rsoultin, I've been a member of this forum for three years longer than you have. But you have nearly four times as many posts as me, and we played the same first game. How the heck did this happen?
On February 01 2015 12:59 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 12:56 Damdred wrote:
Nope re I think your scum gave more than one line you aren't reading.
Eden is so-so hate the push on me generally being useless Yeah, you gave more than one line. Yesterday. A lot of stuff has happened since then. Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 07:38 Damdred wrote:
HF I'm glad I have a town read on you this early usually I am super suspicious of you But I like you so far.
At work so will be hit and miss. Rob is obvious town, I'm a bit confused why people would defend me for setup talk. I think it's really scummy what I did partially, I am right in what I'm saying but set up is super safe to talk about so ff, Eden are on my radar and Sl is as well This is your old view on Holyflare. Then you changed it with the only explanation being something like "Holyflare isn't concerned with solving the game, just being right." Can you provide examples to support this?
The only other problem I have with Trfel is that he's saying he's having trouble reading SL and then in the end throws his vote on him (seemingly out of the blue?). He does bring up the scummy lurkers. He's having some trouble making reads I think, but he's showing in enough effort.
Damdred, if you think he's being misleading or something you need to be specific and point that out.
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FF, there is a discrepancy between your read and Rasputin's. She's been making a fairly big deal in thread. That's what I was drawing at. You didn't say she was right or wrong, I'm drawing attention to the fact you both seem to have different interpretations.
Having looked at Rasputin's latest questions, I can see her question about the chuckle comment and now her concerns make sense. Do I think it's enough to lynch Damdred is another question.
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Figures, I go to bed, and I have to catch up on 14 pages...
After reading everything, it's between Palmar and Robik for me. The case against Robik is very good, but as has been discussed with the setup, it's possible there might be 3 blues.
I've put my vote on Palmar for now.
Filter diving Robik one more time.
I know there are quite a few lurkers, but I highly doubt the entire scumteam are all lurking, seeing as Trfel mentioned something along these lines. I know it happened to an extent in Student IV, but LS was an active scum, though he was caught out based on the things he was saying.
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On February 02 2015 00:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and saw the case on Robik but the thing about Robik is that he claimed blue yes but I really hate the claim from him. Also Damdred did claim blue too so we got our 2 unCCed blues already. Also people still arguing that sicklucker is scum even after I gave a explanation on to why he not a good lynch Day 1 and more likely is town too. Also FF is calling me scum too -.-
I'm remembering that analysis from Geript in Newbie LX. Where Celestial claimed blue, and then fucked off and did nothing.
I'm starting to wonder if some of us could be making that same mistake.
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EBWOP - That same mistake with Robik.
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On February 02 2015 00:05 LightningStrike wrote:
There is no setup with 3 blues lol............. Also my team was afk in that game when I was scum but so was Holyflares to a extent.
Look at the modifications in the OP:
On January 30 2015 10:15 Blazinghand wrote:Possible Setups Base Setups - pick one at random: A) 1 That One Program, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 OS X, 1 tar, 1 | grep, 8 Linux Distros
B) 2 That One Programs, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 Favored Distro, 1 tar, 8 Linux Distros
C) 2 That One Programs, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 Favored Distro, 1 | grep, 8 Linux Distros
D) 1 That One Program, 1 Proprietary, Intermittently-Functional Driver, 1 OS X, 2 Favored Distros, 8 Linux DistrosModifications - pick one at random: 1) Remove one Linux Distro and add one Favored Distro. 2) Use setup as-is. 3) Remove one Favored Distro and add one Linux Distro if possible. Each Base Setup is equally likely. Each Modification is equally likely. Who gets what role will be RNGed.
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Other general comments:
Eden's posting has dropped off compared to the super townie I recall from Hammertime, probably need to look into him for Day 2.
Also noted Rasputin's comment on my thoroughness. Fair play, ask away tomorrow. I'll just say though I was tipsy the last two nights. I had the choice between playing this way, or not playing at all. Take that as you will.
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I'm going to change my vote to Robik. Though it was weekend and he did piss off and do nothing after that claim. He AFKed Hammertime and was scum. Palmar is still largely a policy vote for me.
I realise meta arguments have been made against Palmar...
Palmar could be trolling as either alignment as I learnt in Hammertime.
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Other thoughts:
Trfel is definitely looking better upon re-reading. Same for Rasputin.
After reading that large post (the first four key points) by Sicklucker, I'm inclined to think not lynching him for D1, and thankfully it doesn't look like he will be.
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On February 02 2015 00:27 Damdred wrote:
@HF you are being a hypocrite, which is fine I thought better of you honestly and you refuse in the very least to even see what I'm trying to say instead turning it into the biggest fight we've ever had.
Hts why tobik over Eden at this point, robik has been afk bit he's blue we should give that a day cycle to see what shakes out at this point. Edens play has been a lot more lop sided tto a lot of things
From your perspective, weren't you the one who said it was his scum meta to afk? I'm just thinking back to Newbie LX when Celestial claimed blue and fucked off, it's smelling like the same thing here. If he were cop/doc, I'd think he'd be inclined to NOT claim D1 and try and do some work to maintain credibility as a townie.
Eden was at least somewhat active and contributing earlier in the day. I disagreed with his point on Palmar for instance based on our exp in Hammertime, but I can see why he's making it.
If you're saying the lurkiness is Robik's scum meta, why are you inclined to believe the blue claim?
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On February 02 2015 00:31 Damdred wrote:
Edens pretty bad actually, super sarcastic unhelpful until he gets called out. After that big posts, then spotlite shifts and Eden doesn't do much
The same thing happened in Hammertime. Very sarcastic at the off. Lian called him out D1 and he shaped up. He was killed N1, was VT.
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On February 02 2015 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
Are you bot buying what eden said about getting nk'd?
Pretty sure I said it before, but I'm treating that part as NAI.
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The key points I'm gleaning from Eden's filter (from the large posts):
1 The meta claim issue with SL, which he pushed on. (page 2-3 of his filter)
2 Comments on Rasputin after her questioning of Damdred on read progression
3 Defending Palmar based on Hammertime
4 Recapping SL's post
1 and 2 seemed like thought out concepts but afterwards I see what you mean Damdred...
But on account of #3, I feel Palmar can troll as either alignment, and I don't like Robik's claim.
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I need to head out for a few hours. I will definitely be back in that time and will be around at EoD if anyone wants to talk on anything.
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