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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 02:59 GMT
#961
Ugh, I keep going back and forth on sicklucker. His play does feel worse than in previous games. The scumread on Eden1892 is potentially the least logical scumread sicklucker has ever made. Am I wrong on this?

I guess, I think that the main thing Damdred has going for him is that his tone felt towny. And I liked how he said he was feeling good about this game. Though he hasn't delivered on that, so...
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 01 2015 03:02 GMT
#962
Like everyone agreed with my eden read early on. Why the flipflop? If someone thinks im scum. But also thinks im mad because a townie outed his role Im going to think somethings up.

Its a weak day1 read. But it is a solid read imo
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 03:03 GMT
#963
On February 01 2015 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
Like everyone agreed with my eden read early on. Why the flipflop? If someone thinks im scum. But also thinks im mad because a townie outed his role Im going to think somethings up.

Its a weak day1 read. But it is a solid read imo

I don't remember anyone agreeing with your Eden1892 read. Quotes?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 01 2015 03:04 GMT
#964
Like its a double standard. He cant think im scum and be mad at the same time. Idc what hf says I read eden for this not him.
Eden was way more serious about it and used it as a reason to scum read me. Hf just said I was salty but never scum read me for that point
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 01 2015 03:06 GMT
#965
Maybe not my read. No one ever agrees with my reads even tho I have proven to be very right in past games so no surprise there. I more ment people thought eden was scummy for the first 24 hours since then all I hear are town reads
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 03:12 GMT
#966
Lol, eden is the only one who really defended me and I'm still a bit suspicious of him anyway, though not to the same degree as I am of the other players I've mentioned. Maybe this makes me a lunatic.

Someone saying they're happy to be playing the game is just so not enough for me to read them town -_- @trfel
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 03:18 GMT
#967
My word, so much to read.

Let me talk about Eden for a bit....here's my latest take given his talk on Palmar.

On February 01 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote:
Personally not that impressed with Eden, either. He said a couple things I like (mostly about SL) but the whining about the night kills got old quickly and was just plain unnecessary.


Now that Hammertime has just ended (we got endgamed), I feel a bit more free to talk about this game...at the off, I understand Eden's perspective given my own experience with him from Hammertime and NYE games with the nightkills. Eden was scum in NYE and N1'd in Hammertime. It seems like you are treating it as fluff, which might make sense since you had not actually played with him, but yet I'm treating it in the same vein as Trfel when he mentioned getting killed prematurely (something along those lines), that part, anyhow to be NAI.

The problem I think is Eden townreading Palmar given his behaviour in Hammertime, he was trolling like crazy, and he got lynched and he flipped town. However, Palmar also contested in Hammertime that he did not have a meta and he acts different every game. So I'm still inclined to leave Palmar as a null/policy lynch since I think he can troll as either alignment. Palmar specifically berated me in Hammertime for trying to meta him, and now I can see why.

I see Eden saying that why would Palmar put himself in a position to do this again as mafia, but again, when others are being questioned and scumread, do you think someone like Palmar would have the motivation to shape up, even if he was mafia? He sure didn't have that motivation in Hammertime, and ironically was hammered in that game whilst I was asleep.

So I don't feel his play deserves an instant townread at all, I disagree with Eden on that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 03:24 GMT
#968
Sicklucker is making my head spin at the moment honestly. Ugh. Going to come back to him.

Going to examine the whole Damdred read progression. Unless I missed something when I first read, Rasputin found something wrong with it, and Trfel did not pick up on anything wrong.

HF is still looking fine by me. Marv I know had mentioned something recently about changing his towngame or rather toning it down, and I'm keeping that in mind. Right now, I'm not sensing anything off about either of them.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 03:26 GMT
#969
Sidenote: Is anyone here in thread atm? Anyone want to talk about anything off the cuff whilst I'm still trying to filter dive?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 03:27 GMT
#970
I'm sorry the push on me feels so idiotic. If you want me to play with super static reads that aren't whimsical at points then I'll just stop playing mafia

Rs is borderline strike three for me as I've said a few times who look the worst for me.

Anyway I don't feel a palmar lynch and would feel comfortable lynching into these people

Trfel
rsoultin
sicklyrker
hf

Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 03:27 GMT
#971
Think I'm going to stay up until roughly 4:30am or so again, so if anyone's here and wants to discuss stuff, shout please.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 03:28 GMT
#972
On February 01 2015 12:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Sidenote: Is anyone here in thread atm? Anyone want to talk about anything off the cuff whilst I'm still trying to filter dive?

I'm here, but I've been playing this game all day and am a bit tired. With IEM starting, I'm not sure how much effort I will put into this before I go to bed.

Though I do want to take a closer look at Damdred before I go to bed.

Again, I need to leave a few hours before the deadline tomorrow, so it would be nice to get some consensus on who we are lynching before then.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 03:28 GMT
#973
Like there's nothing at all wrong with my progression on ls/sl interaction or palmar.

Like this is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

also four page filter 24 hours into game amazing for me working two 16 hour shifts.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 03:32 GMT
#974
Thank goodness.

Okay, I was scumreading Rasputin earlier and even voted her before AFKing. I'm trying to look harder into her read on you and making sure nothing is taken out of context. That must have happened either when I was afk or whilst looking at someone else.

Damdred - I think strike one was Rasputin not reading thread (which you gave me as well and I went back and found my mistake), strike two was her push on you, which you are contending has misinformation and strike three was her saying you're not answering her questions?

Seems like the brunt of this contention happened when I AFKed, so let me look into this from both sides...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 03:33 GMT
#975
On February 01 2015 12:27 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry the push on me feels so idiotic. If you want me to play with super static reads that aren't whimsical at points then I'll just stop playing mafia

Rs is borderline strike three for me as I've said a few times who look the worst for me.

Anyway I don't feel a palmar lynch and would feel comfortable lynching into these people

Trfel
rsoultin
sicklyrker
hf



It's not about static reads. It's about why they're changing, or rather, the lack of any obvious reason for them to change, particularly in regard to Palmar.

It's about basically browbeating SL for townreading LS, listing off all the reasons LS is scummy (which is why he shouldn't be townread by SL), then saying you're okay with LS.

At points I've agreed with you, but they're few and far between, and I'm not really feeling any of those lynches you've got down there. What's your problem with HF other than his questioning you?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 03:34 GMT
#976
Also Damdred, that HF scum read....and Trfel....

Can you explain in one-liners why you are scum reading either?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 03:35 GMT
#977
I did not notice what rsoultin pointed out about Damdred, but now that it has been pointed out, I do agree that it seems off. Damdred's filter was not overwhelmingly bad, but I definitely want to take another look at his filter.

I would really like to hear more people's thoughts on sicklucker. I'm having a lot of trouble reading him.

Damdred, can you explain your scumreads in more detail please?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 03:35 GMT
#978
Yea I remember seeing the questioning from HF when I first read, which seemed in line with his earlier play, nothing unusual jumped at me with that.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 03:38 GMT
#979
Half the Sky, before you go to bed, it would be nice to know who you are willing to lynch so I know where to leave my vote.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 03:39 GMT
#980
Someone give me a filter to look at or something I'm bored.
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