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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:26 GMT
#841
Towny
marvellosity
half the sky
trfel (might be down or staying here)


Townyish

lightningstrike (recent posts bit weird so mehish townyish)
chezitwo
damdred (maybe down but probably not - wait for responses)


Null

iamrobik (probably town but putting him in null for being awful at the game)
rsoul (was a tier below but moved up, maybe down again later?)
eden1892 (play the game plz)


Scummy

sicklucker
palmar
fecalfeast


standard lists
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 01 2015 00:26 GMT
#842
On February 01 2015 03:31 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 03:05 Half the Sky wrote:
One more point on Trfel.

On January 31 2015 17:06 Trfel wrote:
I still don't like Robik's claim, and I don't think it makes him confirmed town. I asked a few times for an explanation, and no one really gave one, so I'll just ignore this for now. If it comes down to this in later stages of the game, I'll take another look. Roles, setup, and claims really aren't something I understand.


So Trfel, you don't understand claims coming out of Student Mafia where two people claimed, one claim of which brought you down. You came to me after Carol saying you liked my play at the end, where I claimed medic to save myself.

People have also claimed VT in some of the games you have played.

Basically you've had enough games where there's been many claims, or you have observed them.

My conclusion here is that I don't find what you are saying believable.

Ok, I have been in games where there are claims. I have seen claims occasionally used effectively. Sometimes, I know how to use claims. But in what I think are the majority of cases, I don't know how to use claims. I believe I've mentioned this in previous games, if necessary I can dig that up.

I DID ask, pretty sure at least twice, for someone to explain Robik's claim to me. And no one did. My extreme lack of mafia experience (never having played in real life) makes me completely unconvinced that Robik is town based on this claim, and that is not going to change until someone explains this to me in a way that I can understand (or links me a guide of satisfactory quality, or whatever). Or maybe I will end up accepting it because if everyone else thinks it, it's probably right, even if I don't know why. But I don't see how I should be expected to come to a certain conclusion about something despite asking about it multiple times and receiving no answer.

As for my previous post, I intended to convey that I am a little suspicious of Damdred and Robik and very suspicious of sicklucker. Yes, I put a few comments that didn't contain a read, but are you going to scumread Holyflare and Half the Sky for talking about London restaurants? I'm talking about stuff that I want to talk about because I think it's interesting, if you want to talk about it too, then it was a good thing I mentioned it. If you don't, no harm done.

I really have no clue what to make of the Palmar lynch. I don't know that much about Palmar, other than his play is marked with laziness and he plays in bursts of effectiveness.

Really, my stance on Palmar and sicklucker is similar right now. I am willing to lynch them and there is a good chance they are scum, but I don't feel there is much else to say about them. Therefore, I will look into other things for now, and decide on the best lynch closer to the deadline (which I think I will need to leave about 3 hours before.....). I just see no reason to push sicklucker or Palmar at this point, since there is nothing I could say about them that hasn't already been said.


So if you wanna know the main reason im town reading robik. Its because in a game that ended two days ago he went on this rant about how vt is his favorite role and only one he wants. So I kind of do expect him to claim vt especially if it confirms him as town. I didnt like it but I know its in his town playbook
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:27 GMT
#843
On February 01 2015 09:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
like it's one thing to call it silly for no reason but there's literally nothing different between the quotes which i've provided


Seriously hf are you high not paying attention? Scum? Listen to me carefully, people were pushing on me using misinformation and I restated what I had already said and said why it was dumb.


so nothing new it is then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:27 GMT
#844
like you literally just said you restated which means you've said it before which means I'm right. Thanks?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 00:28 GMT
#845
Hey HF so far I'm down to kill both my scum buddies
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:29 GMT
#846
On February 01 2015 09:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hey HF so far I'm down to kill both my scum buddies


such a great team mate
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 00:29 GMT
#847
okay, Damdred:

On January 31 2015 11:50 Damdred wrote:
I don't get how you can all ls read on you strong really. Its sorta weird in all actuality, at that point you shouldn't of been town read at all and you even told ls he was wrong. So you think ls can't fake the read he gave?


On January 31 2015 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Thankfully I'm home so I can ninja hf instead of other way around.

LS isn't trying to solve the game AND he's playing against how he plays town, usually he has three town reads at least by meta. Even his meta on you is super weak by ls standards so I'm not sure why you give him a free pass so early and so hard.



I do get from your filter that your point was SL shouldn't be hard townreading LS at that point, and I agreed even when I read it. However, all of these are good reasons to scumread LS and you didn't come to that conclusion.

On January 31 2015 13:00 Damdred wrote:
Overall I don't have a problem with ls play at this point as he takes a bit longer to get going. But I do not think that anything he's done should get a super hard town read like SL is giving him.


Especially the second post talking about meta and whatnot, it sounded like you definitely did have a problem with LS play, but only insofar as it effected your SL read? I wouldn't scumread you for this alone, but it's not like it isn't oddly contradictory.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 00:29 GMT
#848
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 00:33 GMT
#849
Hf is more worried about being right than doing anything, he might be Scum.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 00:34 GMT
#850
On February 01 2015 09:33 Damdred wrote:
Hf is more worried about being right than doing anything, he might be Scum.

Go on...
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:35 GMT
#851
if my scum team is ff/palmar/sl and none of them are even around in the slightest what exactly am I supposed to be doing? People are pointing out pretty good inconsistencies with what you are saying and doing and you are telling me i'm wrong when in fact I was actually quite correct which dropped you a tier in my list
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 00:35 GMT
#852
On February 01 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Actually yeah, Palmar post made me chuckle which makes me want to not lynch him.



I'm not seeing where you said anything about better lynches? And I've reread your filter for the third or fourth time today now -_-

Can you quote it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:36 GMT
#853
For instance their qualm with you reading palmar is that you said he was a policy lynch and then you said he wouldn't be a good lynch at all but when you returned you decided to ignore all of these inconsistencies and actually say palmar is still a policy that you would want to lynch and then rehash exactly what you've already said before - you had no new ideas and you skate around everything.

You are dodging around questions in a way where you don't directly answer to what you've done wrong and it's bugging me.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 01 2015 00:38 GMT
#854
On February 01 2015 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
if my scum team is ff/palmar/sl and none of them are even around in the slightest what exactly am I supposed to be doing? People are pointing out pretty good inconsistencies with what you are saying and doing and you are telling me i'm wrong when in fact I was actually quite correct which dropped you a tier in my list

I am here broski
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:39 GMT
#855
it's kind of odd that you can't actually see what I'm getting at when I'm asking you if you are just rehashing the same points, how does that concern my well being rather than getting a better read on you?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 00:39 GMT
#856
I can't explain it, but my general feeling after the events of today is that the scum has a minimal presence in the thread. And we're all just townies arguing with each other.

This game has too many lurkers.

+ Show Spoiler +
And please, before you try to policy lynch me for going after lurkers, I'm still scumhunting and researching. And you can't deny that it's possible that all of the scum are lurkers, in my first game all of the scum lurked for basically the entire game.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 01 2015 00:39 GMT
#857
On February 01 2015 09:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'll kill palmar ok

Et tu, Brute?
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 01 2015 00:40 GMT
#858
On February 01 2015 09:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
if my scum team is ff/palmar/sl and none of them are even around in the slightest what exactly am I supposed to be doing? People are pointing out pretty good inconsistencies with what you are saying and doing and you are telling me i'm wrong when in fact I was actually quite correct which dropped you a tier in my list

I am here broski


so what does your role pm say? doctor again?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 00:40 GMT
#859
Palmar.

Is marvellosity scum for wanting to lynch you?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 00:40 GMT
#860
On February 01 2015 09:39 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 09:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'll kill palmar ok

Et tu, Brute?

Omelette du fromage
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
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