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On February 01 2015 04:48 Chezitwo wrote:
How so? The answers were clear and right here.
Can you point me to where I voted for Marv?
You did not answer!![/QUOTE]
Alright, back at you now. You're still ignoring the point that I came up with the conclusion and not you. Which is why I am not impressed. Also not impressed with all this activity going on, you're clearly in thread, Chez and you aren't really doing a whole lot.
On January 31 2015 20:23 Chezitwo wrote:marvellosity: Do you think Fecalfeast is a distro?
On January 31 2015 20:34 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 20:26 marvellosity wrote:On January 31 2015 20:23 Chezitwo wrote:marvellosity: Do you think Fecalfeast is a distro? maybe. he's always shit and useless. Looking at his other programs... It makes me sad. ##Unvote
Also my mistake on the thing with Marv, you ASKED him about Fecalfeast, but the gist of it stands - you just posted his filter.
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On February 01 2015 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
yeah. the whole lady-on-lady treatment there is not getting me hot.
maybe unsurprisingly :p
Typical Marv....
*runs*
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On February 01 2015 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
I'm not certain about several people, including Damdred, SL and Robik...Palmar for me would be a policy lynch though the vets are calling it a meta read...
But as for strong lynch them now scum, no.
Wait, what?
1 You have yet to interact with Robik or even discuss him from what I'm seeing in your filter. So where did any read on Robik come from? Did I miss something?
2 You said earlier you wanted to get behind Damdred's read, you appealled to Damdred, and now all of a sudden you're not certain of him? Where did this come from?
On February 01 2015 04:42 rsoultin wrote:
If this is truly the best case, this thread needs life support xP
Daaaammmdred.
On February 01 2015 00:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:40 Damdred wrote:
I was looking at Trfel filter again and a few things popped up at me that raised a red flag.
Really hard disbelief/doubt on robik claim when it happened. This is interesting to me because of the difference in what Trfel did and thread. People were mad at Rob claiming but believed it, brownies generally believe claims due to it adding more information and game being slightly easier even if it's bad. Mafia already knew partial setup, and disbelief to robik claim could be a Scum slip from to much info.
Moving on thread presence is really down and lots of excuses about why he's not posting much.
Lastly a pretty decent sized list post with no conclusive reads no Scum reads just really noncommittal reads,
Trfel is scum I could get behind this read.Chezi already said the same thing you know. It's why I said he gets a no-lynch pass from me today. 
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EBWOP - Scratch the part about the appeal, just saw you wanted a question answered. Still doesn't explain why you wanted to get behind the read.
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On February 01 2015 05:15 Trfel wrote:
Like Holyflare and marvellosity said (and also geript in his post-game analysis), apparently Half the Sky's scum play isn't all that good (no offense, it's still at least 1000x better than my own). She was townread in Newbie Mafia for being one of the only bastions of logic and reason in a game full of newbies.
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You can't possibly argue that your play was less boring and more useful than Half the Sky's play at the point where you posted the comment in question.
None taken, Trfel. I think my scum game is pretty terrible actually. Throw me in a pool of veterans and I will get caught out, end of.
Ah, wait now...
And that second part, I'd already mentioned, quite the double standard.
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On February 01 2015 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
I do hope you're not mafia and the italic is you mocking me :<
That was in reference to recent, not current, experience.
And as for the "typical Marv" joke....hey I had to. Now we're even <3
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Trfel,
If you're a townie, and people are wrongly/incorrectly pressuring you, you do two things:
1 Defence/resolution of differences - ignoring questions will not let you get townread/neutrally read by proponents of your lynch
2 Propose alternate scumreads/alternative targets based on original thought of her own
3 If you suspect one of your lynch proponents is scum and has faulty logic in pushing you, you poke holes in that and use that person as the target
In Student IV, I was getting wagoned to death by Damdred, Oats, etc. I survived by a sliver because Damdred did not get the vote in time. But Damdred and I had a clash regarding the use of meta - I disregarded it entirely as a new player and he contested that Kushmasta (the other wagon) was not scum. After fully and thoroughly explaining my thought process (he thought I was sheeping) on why I felt Kush was scum, he tried to keep the vote off me and eventually tried to lynch me with some regret (he flipped VT).
Was my thinking flawed? Yes, Was it town-driven? Yes. That's what I'm driving at.
I'm not seeing any such parallels here.
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On February 01 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not boring I'm just resting my eyes.
Where is sicklucker?
I'm leaving my vote on SL until closer to deadline if the palmar train takes off.
Damdred I was scum reading you before I went to bed but you're like town jesus now.
HTS is town, so is hf
Going to look more closely at eden, I just perused that filter and was unimpressed
Marv did you roll scum again and, if so, can we call you chairman marv?
A few of us have opposite reads on Eden from what you are implying.
Why don't you elaborate on why Eden remains unimpressive?
And why are you asking Marv if he rolled scum? If you ARE scumreading him, tell us why.
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Wrapped up a film, bitched about Hammertime mafia, and now back here catching up.
I also drank a load of wine as well, but I should be able to manage.
Let's see what I missed here.
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On February 01 2015 11:33 sicklucker wrote:
Well there you go. Did mafia win that game?
Yes they did. I made a fundamental error in lylo, I AFK voted, but back on topic...
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My word, so much to read.
Let me talk about Eden for a bit....here's my latest take given his talk on Palmar.
On February 01 2015 06:02 rsoultin wrote:
Personally not that impressed with Eden, either. He said a couple things I like (mostly about SL) but the whining about the night kills got old quickly and was just plain unnecessary.
Now that Hammertime has just ended (we got endgamed), I feel a bit more free to talk about this game...at the off, I understand Eden's perspective given my own experience with him from Hammertime and NYE games with the nightkills. Eden was scum in NYE and N1'd in Hammertime. It seems like you are treating it as fluff, which might make sense since you had not actually played with him, but yet I'm treating it in the same vein as Trfel when he mentioned getting killed prematurely (something along those lines), that part, anyhow to be NAI.
The problem I think is Eden townreading Palmar given his behaviour in Hammertime, he was trolling like crazy, and he got lynched and he flipped town. However, Palmar also contested in Hammertime that he did not have a meta and he acts different every game. So I'm still inclined to leave Palmar as a null/policy lynch since I think he can troll as either alignment. Palmar specifically berated me in Hammertime for trying to meta him, and now I can see why.
I see Eden saying that why would Palmar put himself in a position to do this again as mafia, but again, when others are being questioned and scumread, do you think someone like Palmar would have the motivation to shape up, even if he was mafia? He sure didn't have that motivation in Hammertime, and ironically was hammered in that game whilst I was asleep.
So I don't feel his play deserves an instant townread at all, I disagree with Eden on that.
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Sicklucker is making my head spin at the moment honestly. Ugh. Going to come back to him.
Going to examine the whole Damdred read progression. Unless I missed something when I first read, Rasputin found something wrong with it, and Trfel did not pick up on anything wrong.
HF is still looking fine by me. Marv I know had mentioned something recently about changing his towngame or rather toning it down, and I'm keeping that in mind. Right now, I'm not sensing anything off about either of them.
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Sidenote: Is anyone here in thread atm? Anyone want to talk about anything off the cuff whilst I'm still trying to filter dive?
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Think I'm going to stay up until roughly 4:30am or so again, so if anyone's here and wants to discuss stuff, shout please.
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Thank goodness.
Okay, I was scumreading Rasputin earlier and even voted her before AFKing. I'm trying to look harder into her read on you and making sure nothing is taken out of context. That must have happened either when I was afk or whilst looking at someone else.
Damdred - I think strike one was Rasputin not reading thread (which you gave me as well and I went back and found my mistake), strike two was her push on you, which you are contending has misinformation and strike three was her saying you're not answering her questions?
Seems like the brunt of this contention happened when I AFKed, so let me look into this from both sides...
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Also Damdred, that HF scum read....and Trfel....
Can you explain in one-liners why you are scum reading either?
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Yea I remember seeing the questioning from HF when I first read, which seemed in line with his earlier play, nothing unusual jumped at me with that.
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Okay here are my thoughts on the exchange. Had to read the thread and filters several times...
On February 01 2015 05:55 rsoultin wrote:Okay, I guess what I really don't understand is the progression of Damdred's read on Palmar. Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
Edens posts are interesting, they make sense. I actually like them right now, explained himself then went to pressure sl. I probably wouldn't lynch Eden today then if he keeps this up.
I might be willing to lynch Palmar Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:04 Damdred wrote:
Hts posts are good I think.
Also Palmar is a policy lynch at best it's pretty obvious. Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Also rs marv said his reason in his filter about Palmar begging out of a lynch? You don't like his reasons or missed it? So is it a policy lynch or isn't it? Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Also rs marv said his reason in his filter about Palmar begging out of a lynch? You don't like his reasons or missed it? Still don't understand what this has to do with anything, and it's the question I've been trying to get him to answer. Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 04:54 Damdred wrote:
Ok so Palmar response is great. Mr. Lynch/Palomar isn't getting lynched today. Look up super bowl interview with lynch, so great.
Catching up Or this -_- I mean, seriously, I can just say I don't want to be lynched over and over, too. Maybe I'm missing something but this really doesn't make any sense to me.
What I'm going to try and do here is analyse what Damdred said in the context of where these quotes were in the thread. The problem I have with Damdred's first quote (filter page 2, thread page 25) is "he might be willing to lynch Palmar" but there's no reason given. Amongst the other reasons cited in thread before Damdred posts is a meta read cited by Chez, Marv's read on him (looks like it's PoE based since he had nothing on others), before Damdred says "I might be willing to lynch". So I cannot tell at face value whether Damdred is sheeping what appears to be scum reads that others are making on page 24. When I say I think Palmar's policy, that's when he says the same thing (second quote posted here)
Only after that time Damdred posts the begging out part. But Rasputin, I see this post by Damdred, and seeing your response in quote, why was this concern not resolved when he posted this seven minutes later?
On February 01 2015 00:29 rsoultin wrote:
@Damdred
Okay, yeah, I did miss that. Probably because I still have trouble sheeping what others say others' meta are, so tend to disregard it.
However, Palmar appealing to me when I asked marv to explain his read better is kind of funny, given the arrogance I associate with Palmar.
Should I just assume you are disagreeing on meta?
Another quote that has me a little confused from Damdred:
On February 01 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Actually yeah, Palmar post made me chuckle which makes me want to not lynch him.
I can understand the confusion on Damdred's progression but I can't seem to see why Rasputin says this in her quote 5h later
Still don't understand what this has to do with anything, and it's the question I've been trying to get him to answer.
...when she acknowledges him 5m later (per timestamp).
Am I misunderstanding something?
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Ras, can you clarify what exactly question you were trying to get him to answer? Something isn't making sense to me when I'm reading this...
Was it this?
On February 01 2015 04:59 rsoultin wrote:
I'm not certain about several people, including Damdred, SL and Robik...Palmar for me would be a policy lynch though the vets are calling it a meta read...
But as for strong lynch them now scum, no.
As in you're trying to figure out why he was scumreading him?
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Going to move on to the SL/LS thing...
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