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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 20:29 GMT
#701
On February 01 2015 05:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 05:08 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 05:01 Holyflare wrote:
On February 01 2015 04:59 marvellosity wrote:
does it remind you of kels in carol? lol


i guess a bit? not particularly

On January 31 2015 14:23 rsoultin wrote:
I'm bored.

I like HF this game.

Still deciding on most of the rest of y'all...entertain me. Especially FF. You boring, bro.

Also, HTS, but I'm thinking (read: hoping) she actually becomes interesting tomorrow.

Going to bed for once. Ciao.


this strikes me as a bit weird because rsoul said hts being uninteresting/underwhelming was towny but she wants hts to become more interesting which would give the opposite read??


Friggin a.

My reads of HTS have in general been independent of thread opinion, as I just pointed out. At the time I posted about her being boring her filter was entirely excuses and one list post she posted drunk.

I am allowed to say that when she's being universally townread it probably is her scumgame, while still making my own read on her. When she returned to the thread I liked her pushes.


still don't understand this, the fact that you are town reading hts and like her pushes and everyone else is saying the same thing makes your meta ..... irrelevant if you are town reading her but you're still sticking to it like it's true?


You guys really expect me to base my read on HTS entirely on whether or not the rest of the thread was townreading her?

I am trying to narrow down my lynch options, which was why I considered underwhelming play from HTS not enough to vote her today. Her play has picked up significantly since then.

I do not know how else to explain this to you beyond I am not an irrational dipshit to say HTS is being scumread therefore she must be town! or viceversa.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 31 2015 20:29 GMT
#702
Trfel,

If you're a townie, and people are wrongly/incorrectly pressuring you, you do two things:

1 Defence/resolution of differences - ignoring questions will not let you get townread/neutrally read by proponents of your lynch
2 Propose alternate scumreads/alternative targets based on original thought of her own
3 If you suspect one of your lynch proponents is scum and has faulty logic in pushing you, you poke holes in that and use that person as the target

In Student IV, I was getting wagoned to death by Damdred, Oats, etc. I survived by a sliver because Damdred did not get the vote in time. But Damdred and I had a clash regarding the use of meta - I disregarded it entirely as a new player and he contested that Kushmasta (the other wagon) was not scum. After fully and thoroughly explaining my thought process (he thought I was sheeping) on why I felt Kush was scum, he tried to keep the vote off me and eventually tried to lynch me with some regret (he flipped VT).

Was my thinking flawed? Yes, Was it town-driven? Yes. That's what I'm driving at.
I'm not seeing any such parallels here.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 31 2015 20:30 GMT
#703
Seeing as I wrote half that post, made coffee, smoked weed and had a poop before I came back and finished it, that makes sense.
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2015 20:30 GMT
#704
On February 01 2015 05:25 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh, there's the possibility that she's town but that's why we ask her more questions, I don't think they are unreasonable questions and the imaginary pressure shouldn't even be high if you're just defending your point of view? It's been like 20 minutes on her and it's really not as big as you're making it out to be.

Questioning definitely isn't bad. They aren't unreasonable. I'm not saying to stop questioning her in the slightest.

I guess to me, as both alignments, the pressure on me has always seemed higher than it really is.

You guys can do whatever you want, but I think I will stop focusing on rsoultin for the moment (unless she gives me more reason to do so).

I maintain that rsoultin's answers to the questions have been quite lacking.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 31 2015 20:33 GMT
#705
On February 01 2015 05:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 05:19 Holyflare wrote:
On February 01 2015 05:08 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 05:01 Holyflare wrote:
On February 01 2015 04:59 marvellosity wrote:
does it remind you of kels in carol? lol


i guess a bit? not particularly

On January 31 2015 14:23 rsoultin wrote:
I'm bored.

I like HF this game.

Still deciding on most of the rest of y'all...entertain me. Especially FF. You boring, bro.

Also, HTS, but I'm thinking (read: hoping) she actually becomes interesting tomorrow.

Going to bed for once. Ciao.


this strikes me as a bit weird because rsoul said hts being uninteresting/underwhelming was towny but she wants hts to become more interesting which would give the opposite read??


Friggin a.

My reads of HTS have in general been independent of thread opinion, as I just pointed out. At the time I posted about her being boring her filter was entirely excuses and one list post she posted drunk.

I am allowed to say that when she's being universally townread it probably is her scumgame, while still making my own read on her. When she returned to the thread I liked her pushes.


still don't understand this, the fact that you are town reading hts and like her pushes and everyone else is saying the same thing makes your meta ..... irrelevant if you are town reading her but you're still sticking to it like it's true?


You guys really expect me to base my read on HTS entirely on whether or not the rest of the thread was townreading her?

I am trying to narrow down my lynch options, which was why I considered underwhelming play from HTS not enough to vote her today. Her play has picked up significantly since then.

I do not know how else to explain this to you beyond I am not an irrational dipshit to say HTS is being scumread therefore she must be town! or viceversa.


well that's not entirely the problem we have? you've just said that you DON'T base your read entirely on thread sentiment or if she's playing towny - which meant that what you said earlier wasn't very accurate. Fine, that's ok, make your own reads. However, if this read isn't entirely based on it then why on earth would you give her a town pass for being underwhelming????
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2015 20:34 GMT
#706
On February 01 2015 05:29 Half the Sky wrote:
Trfel,

If you're a townie, and people are wrongly/incorrectly pressuring you, you do two things:

1 Defence/resolution of differences - ignoring questions will not let you get townread/neutrally read by proponents of your lynch
2 Propose alternate scumreads/alternative targets based on original thought of her own
3 If you suspect one of your lynch proponents is scum and has faulty logic in pushing you, you poke holes in that and use that person as the target

In Student IV, I was getting wagoned to death by Damdred, Oats, etc. I survived by a sliver because Damdred did not get the vote in time. But Damdred and I had a clash regarding the use of meta - I disregarded it entirely as a new player and he contested that Kushmasta (the other wagon) was not scum. After fully and thoroughly explaining my thought process (he thought I was sheeping) on why I felt Kush was scum, he tried to keep the vote off me and eventually tried to lynch me with some regret (he flipped VT).

Was my thinking flawed? Yes, Was it town-driven? Yes. That's what I'm driving at.
I'm not seeing any such parallels here.

I understand this. I've been pressured a lot in the past, and I'm actually quite comfortable with defending myself as town. Which is why I was willing to make a terrible post to potentially throw rsoultin a lifeline, which I don't feel that she accepted.

I believe that your point is that you don't see rsoultin's defense as being town-driven, and I agree completely.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 20:36 GMT
#707
On February 01 2015 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 05:29 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 05:19 Holyflare wrote:
On February 01 2015 05:08 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 05:01 Holyflare wrote:
On February 01 2015 04:59 marvellosity wrote:
does it remind you of kels in carol? lol


i guess a bit? not particularly

On January 31 2015 14:23 rsoultin wrote:
I'm bored.

I like HF this game.

Still deciding on most of the rest of y'all...entertain me. Especially FF. You boring, bro.

Also, HTS, but I'm thinking (read: hoping) she actually becomes interesting tomorrow.

Going to bed for once. Ciao.


this strikes me as a bit weird because rsoul said hts being uninteresting/underwhelming was towny but she wants hts to become more interesting which would give the opposite read??


Friggin a.

My reads of HTS have in general been independent of thread opinion, as I just pointed out. At the time I posted about her being boring her filter was entirely excuses and one list post she posted drunk.

I am allowed to say that when she's being universally townread it probably is her scumgame, while still making my own read on her. When she returned to the thread I liked her pushes.


still don't understand this, the fact that you are town reading hts and like her pushes and everyone else is saying the same thing makes your meta ..... irrelevant if you are town reading her but you're still sticking to it like it's true?


You guys really expect me to base my read on HTS entirely on whether or not the rest of the thread was townreading her?

I am trying to narrow down my lynch options, which was why I considered underwhelming play from HTS not enough to vote her today. Her play has picked up significantly since then.

I do not know how else to explain this to you beyond I am not an irrational dipshit to say HTS is being scumread therefore she must be town! or viceversa.


well that's not entirely the problem we have? you've just said that you DON'T base your read entirely on thread sentiment or if she's playing towny - which meant that what you said earlier wasn't very accurate. Fine, that's ok, make your own reads. However, if this read isn't entirely based on it then why on earth would you give her a town pass for being underwhelming????


I didn't. I gave her a townpass for her read on me, and then on FF. A post I've already quoted once.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 20:40 GMT
#708
To answer y'all's question...or implication I guess...as to why I'm not pushing any of you pushing me is I think most of the pressure, if not all, is coming from town -_-

None of you were the ones I thought would be good lynches today, and even if you're wrong I can see where your arguments are coming from, so I have no reason to change that opinion.

And yeah, Trfel, looking back through her filter that was a hypocritical statement for me to make.

What is with super townreading Damdred, may I ask? Cause I think marv and FF have both alluded to it now and I'm just not feeling it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2015 20:41 GMT
#709
Rsoultin, what do you think of me now? Earlier, you were willing to lynch me.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 20:43 GMT
#710
On February 01 2015 05:41 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, what do you think of me now? Earlier, you were willing to lynch me.


Earlier all you had were excuses and a post full of nullish reads again. I specifically said that you were trying to change your style, and I'd give you a chance to see if you picked it up. You did. I'm fine with you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 31 2015 20:49 GMT
#711
On February 01 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not boring I'm just resting my eyes.

Where is sicklucker?

I'm leaving my vote on SL until closer to deadline if the palmar train takes off.
Damdred I was scum reading you before I went to bed but you're like town jesus now.
HTS is town, so is hf
Going to look more closely at eden, I just perused that filter and was unimpressed

Marv did you roll scum again and, if so, can we call you chairman marv?


A few of us have opposite reads on Eden from what you are implying.

Why don't you elaborate on why Eden remains unimpressive?

And why are you asking Marv if he rolled scum? If you ARE scumreading him, tell us why.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 20:55 GMT
#712
Okay, I guess what I really don't understand is the progression of Damdred's read on Palmar.

On January 31 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
Edens posts are interesting, they make sense. I actually like them right now, explained himself then went to pressure sl. I probably wouldn't lynch Eden today then if he keeps this up.

I might be willing to lynch Palmar


On February 01 2015 00:04 Damdred wrote:
Hts posts are good I think.

Also Palmar is a policy lynch at best it's pretty obvious.


On February 01 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Also rs marv said his reason in his filter about Palmar begging out of a lynch? You don't like his reasons or missed it?


So is it a policy lynch or isn't it?

On February 01 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Also rs marv said his reason in his filter about Palmar begging out of a lynch? You don't like his reasons or missed it?


Still don't understand what this has to do with anything, and it's the question I've been trying to get him to answer.

On February 01 2015 04:54 Damdred wrote:
Ok so Palmar response is great. Mr. Lynch/Palomar isn't getting lynched today. Look up super bowl interview with lynch, so great.

Catching up


Or this -_-

I mean, seriously, I can just say I don't want to be lynched over and over, too. Maybe I'm missing something but this really doesn't make any sense to me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 20:59 GMT
#713
On February 01 2015 00:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 00:21 Damdred wrote:
Same question to you rsoul


No. I see no point in lynching a claimed role Day 1.

For being the amazing town leader to sheep to victory, he's been especially useless, and I'd probably lynch him later if he continues as he is, but not today.


This was about Robik @HTS.

Easy to miss when I didn't have his name in there.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2015 21:01 GMT
#714
Yeah, I'm actually really interested to see Damdred's thoughts when he catches up in the thread.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 21:02 GMT
#715
On February 01 2015 05:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not boring I'm just resting my eyes.

Where is sicklucker?

I'm leaving my vote on SL until closer to deadline if the palmar train takes off.
Damdred I was scum reading you before I went to bed but you're like town jesus now.
HTS is town, so is hf
Going to look more closely at eden, I just perused that filter and was unimpressed

Marv did you roll scum again and, if so, can we call you chairman marv?


A few of us have opposite reads on Eden from what you are implying.

Why don't you elaborate on why Eden remains unimpressive?

And why are you asking Marv if he rolled scum? If you ARE scumreading him, tell us why.


Personally not that impressed with Eden, either. He said a couple things I like (mostly about SL) but the whining about the night kills got old quickly and was just plain unnecessary.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2015 21:03 GMT
#716
What do you guys think about Holyflare and marvellosity?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 21:05 GMT
#717
On February 01 2015 05:55 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, I guess what I really don't understand is the progression of Damdred's read on Palmar.

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
Edens posts are interesting, they make sense. I actually like them right now, explained himself then went to pressure sl. I probably wouldn't lynch Eden today then if he keeps this up.

I might be willing to lynch Palmar


Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 00:04 Damdred wrote:
Hts posts are good I think.

Also Palmar is a policy lynch at best it's pretty obvious.


Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Also rs marv said his reason in his filter about Palmar begging out of a lynch? You don't like his reasons or missed it?


So is it a policy lynch or isn't it?

On February 01 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Actually yeah, Palmar post made me chuckle which makes me want to not lynch him.



Still don't understand what this has to do with anything, and it's the question I've been trying to get him to answer.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 04:54 Damdred wrote:
Ok so Palmar response is great. Mr. Lynch/Palomar isn't getting lynched today. Look up super bowl interview with lynch, so great.

Catching up


Or this -_-

I mean, seriously, I can just say I don't want to be lynched over and over, too. Maybe I'm missing something but this really doesn't make any sense to me.


Meh, c/p'd the same quote twice. Fixed now :/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 31 2015 21:05 GMT
#718
On February 01 2015 06:03 Trfel wrote:
What do you guys think about Holyflare and marvellosity?


super sexy guys
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 31 2015 21:08 GMT
#719
have met HF, can confirm sexy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 31 2015 21:09 GMT
#720
On February 01 2015 06:03 Trfel wrote:
What do you guys think about Holyflare and marvellosity?


I like HF. His pushes make sense. I know he's supposed to be really good at scum, but, eh, all I can go with is how he reads to me, and I think he's town this game.

Marv, I dunnae. It's not like the few scum games I've seen him play. It irritates me that he doesn't understand what I'm saying...but I'm probably not explaining it well since he's not the only one. I don't think he'd put it out there that he's always correctly lynched Palmar when he's town if he was scum pushing a mislynch. WIFOM but it's easy ammunition to use against him later.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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