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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 06 2015 07:44 GMT
#2281
On March 06 2015 16:37 geript wrote:
No I really believe Syllogism who can read Sandro like a book gave it to him. Like if he's mafia, why would he ever claim a check within his pod?


But you dont know what spirit is what? So at best sandros claim only makes sense half the time
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 07:44 GMT
#2282
On March 06 2015 16:39 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 16:35 geript wrote:
Why do you believe so heavily in this tin foil hat theory? Like I really don't get it. Like do you really think that Town only gets 1 power role on N1?


I'm thinking people are not claiming, or there simply were no power roles given.

I simply don't believe Sandroba's claim. It has nothing to do with how many power roles are available.

That quite frankly is absolutely retarded. There is literally 0 reason for people not to have claimed what powers they got and what powers they used. Like not as any alignment. Literally 0 reason. There's literally 0 reason to think that in a setup with 6 mafia (with 2 KP) and 2 3P (each with 2KP) that town only gets 2 roles. Maybe some roles went to Rayn/Toad. Maybe. Like no one has claimed a RB on me. No one's claimed a vest hit. No one's claimed a medic use. At most so far, Town could have gotten 4 roles. Which is at least 2 fewer than I would expect on N1. Probably 3 fewer considering how mafia favored the lynch mechanics are in general. So why on god's green earth aren't people claiming these powers 1, why didn't they use these powers 2 and where in the fuck are all the roles we're missing?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 07:44 GMT
#2283
On March 06 2015 16:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 16:37 geript wrote:
No I really believe Syllogism who can read Sandro like a book gave it to him. Like if he's mafia, why would he ever claim a check within his pod?


We dont have complete information but I can and have given you many scenarios.

1. He green checks onegu to look scummy if his plan fails. Thus insuring a 1for1 trade which is good since he was the likely lynch.

2. They are partners

The fact is sandro was the lynch regardless of the claim and her best option was to claim. You have to ignore the claim and see the player. And that player is doing nothing compared to two obvious towns.


Onegu is not mafia. No way. That's like less possible than monkeys flying out my ass singing Danzig songs.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 07:45 GMT
#2284
On March 06 2015 16:44 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 16:37 geript wrote:
No I really believe Syllogism who can read Sandro like a book gave it to him. Like if he's mafia, why would he ever claim a check within his pod?


But you dont know what spirit is what? So at best sandros claim only makes sense half the time

UNDER WHAT FUCKING CIRCUMSTANCES DOES MAFIA SANDRO FUCKING CLAIM A GREEN CHECK WITHIN HIS POD ON A GUY WHO'S PRETTY UNIVERSALLY SCUMREAD AND THE EASIEST FUCKING MISLYNCH IN THE FUCKING POD?????
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 07:48 GMT
#2285
Like you're both proposing the most asinine shit and I don't know which of you is even fucking town at this point. And both of you are making the same dumbass claim that a mafia who's done relatively little would green check the most obvious lynch bait in his pod.

Like if Onegu is mafia then fuck Artanis right int he fucking pussy. That'd 100% be the most bastard hosting ever in a setup that's already really fucking mafia sided. I have a really hard time believing he'd do that.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 07:49 GMT
#2286
On March 06 2015 16:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 16:39 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2015 16:35 geript wrote:
Why do you believe so heavily in this tin foil hat theory? Like I really don't get it. Like do you really think that Town only gets 1 power role on N1?


I'm thinking people are not claiming, or there simply were no power roles given.

I simply don't believe Sandroba's claim. It has nothing to do with how many power roles are available.

That quite frankly is absolutely retarded. There is literally 0 reason for people not to have claimed what powers they got and what powers they used. Like not as any alignment. Literally 0 reason. There's literally 0 reason to think that in a setup with 6 mafia (with 2 KP) and 2 3P (each with 2KP) that town only gets 2 roles. Maybe some roles went to Rayn/Toad. Maybe. Like no one has claimed a RB on me. No one's claimed a vest hit. No one's claimed a medic use. At most so far, Town could have gotten 4 roles. Which is at least 2 fewer than I would expect on N1. Probably 3 fewer considering how mafia favored the lynch mechanics are in general. So why on god's green earth aren't people claiming these powers 1, why didn't they use these powers 2 and where in the fuck are all the roles we're missing?


I'm thinking there are different abilities, no reason to think that traditional roles in such an untraditional game are neccessary. And honestly, I don't care about how many roles there are. Kithaman27 seemed to care. Talk to him about it. It has absolutely zero bearing on what I think.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 07:50 GMT
#2287
Like that would be some really crazy ass shit. Late in the game, I coudl maybe. MABYE 2 mafia in a cell. But even then that's a big maybe. Like it's insanity now.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 07:51 GMT
#2288
On March 06 2015 16:50 geript wrote:
Like that would be some really crazy ass shit. Late in the game, I coudl maybe. MABYE 2 mafia in a cell. But even then that's a big maybe. Like it's insanity now.


For the record, Sicklucker is the only person who thinks there are 2 mafia in here.

I've said many times there is only 1 and it is Sandoba.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 07:53 GMT
#2289
Why do you think that there are non-traditional roles in this game? I got vigi. We have normal assassin roles. Like why would you think that?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 07:55 GMT
#2290
On March 06 2015 16:53 geript wrote:
Why do you think that there are non-traditional roles in this game? I got vigi. We have normal assassin roles. Like why would you think that?


Oh, you're assuming I believe your claim.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 07:56 GMT
#2291
I don't even know what to say. Like why would I lie about being a vigi as any alignment? Please tell me. Please tell me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 07:57 GMT
#2292
Like literally neither of you are making any fucking sense.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 06 2015 07:58 GMT
#2293
It really makes me feel uneasy that sandroba didn't spend any of his small amount of time in the thread trying to work out if tube or SL was mafia.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 06 2015 07:59 GMT
#2294
On March 06 2015 16:56 geript wrote:
I don't even know what to say. Like why would I lie about being a vigi as any alignment? Please tell me. Please tell me.


I absolutely will tell the thread. But it's not quite important yet.

But you really think that we need vigis with 2 2kp Ninjas? Someone talked about it earlier and I don't remember them considering non ninja vigis in the game.

So, feel free to attack my idea as it's more dangerous to mafia than finding who the mafia is in this cell.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2015 07:59 GMT
#2295
On March 06 2015 16:58 Breshke wrote:
It really makes me feel uneasy that sandroba didn't spend any of his small amount of time in the thread trying to work out if tube or SL was mafia.

This is honestly the only reason I haven't unvoted. I'd hope the newly appointed cop would be excited for such an easy lynch
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 08:00 GMT
#2296
On March 06 2015 16:58 Breshke wrote:
It really makes me feel uneasy that sandroba didn't spend any of his small amount of time in the thread trying to work out if tube or SL was mafia.

This I can understand. This I can get. But I can just disagree with it based on better evidence.

Breshke, did you get a role last night?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 08:07 GMT
#2297
On March 06 2015 16:59 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 16:56 geript wrote:
I don't even know what to say. Like why would I lie about being a vigi as any alignment? Please tell me. Please tell me.


I absolutely will tell the thread. But it's not quite important yet.

But you really think that we need vigis with 2 2kp Ninjas? Someone talked about it earlier and I don't remember them considering non ninja vigis in the game.

So, feel free to attack my idea as it's more dangerous to mafia than finding who the mafia is in this cell.

I'm trying to fucknig understand why you believe such bullshit.
And needing Vigis with 2kp Ninjas. Yes. Ninjas aren't trying to shoot mafia. Hell some people will just shoot indiscriminately into reasonable targets. Which more often than not will be town. Ninjas are not town aligned. They're far, far more closer to mafia aligned than anything else. Like when all 4 shuriken get shot, then guess what happens. They claim. Because there's literally 0 reason for them not to claim. They just don't want to get lynched and will try to side with whoever wants to help them the most. Ask Kita. In Demon's run he was 3P and he and I and Austin (my mafia partner) made a shaky alliance so that we had a chance at winning. 3P are in no way town aligned. They're heavily anti town. Super heavily anti-town. So yes, in a setup with 6 mafia and 2 3rd party then yes, town needs a way to cull the chaff and/or kill mafia. Like with out such, by the end of N2 in a what 26 person setup there's like 7 town going to be dead at least most likely. If not 9-10. It can easily be MYLO on D3. So yes, town needs roles to help figure shit out.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 06 2015 08:09 GMT
#2298
On March 06 2015 17:00 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 16:58 Breshke wrote:
It really makes me feel uneasy that sandroba didn't spend any of his small amount of time in the thread trying to work out if tube or SL was mafia.

This I can understand. This I can get. But I can just disagree with it based on better evidence.

Breshke, did you get a role last night?


No, but there is something in the wording of the psirit role that makes me think they can save up the points they get for roles. Like as in they don't have to spend them every night.

Also geript i understand what you are saying but like the one time role thing is kinda good for town in a way. I understand that it opens up mafia for fakeclaims but like if sandroba only got a 1 time cop thing not a perma cop thing (still hasn't answered it) then mafias job is really hard.

How do you kill powerroles when everyone is just a vanilla town. You can't hunt them it changes every cycle.

That being said getting ONE town PR seems fairly weak and only makes sense if the spirit is like "saving" his points.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 08:13 GMT
#2299
Why save up points though? Like it's ridiculously risky. One shot roles are ridiculously powerful. Because like you said, it's a lot harder to remove the blue. Like 1 shot medic or 1 shot anything. Even tracker/watcher. Sure it makes it that you can't hunt blues, it rewards mafia for really good play (ie looking really town) with town's roles. Like I can imagine saving some points. That's reasonable. But not spending except on KP. Like that's insane to me. At least buy a medic or something. Like something with good odds to last a while.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 06 2015 08:14 GMT
#2300
Like I think this game has really highlighted why I should just quit playing mafia. Nobody ever listens to the good poitns I make and harps on all the random shit I say.
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