• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:19
CEST 16:19
KST 23:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event4Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments4[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced63
StarCraft 2
General
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025) Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups StarCraft player reflex TE scores BW General Discussion Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 537 users

Newbie Mini Mafia LXI - Page 8

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 15:43 GMT
#672
On February 18 2015 00:41 Trfel wrote:
Oh rsoultin, why do you do this to me......... (expresses general frustrations)

I blame you for my own blunders.


ROFL! Aww...that's almost a compliment kinda maybe? xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 15:50 GMT
#674
Well, let's ignore it for the time being.

I want to play a game with zlefin ;o;

I think the problem with his point system/reads may just be that he's having trouble articulating things in his first game. Especially when things are gut/tone reads it can be hard to put it into words. I completely sympathize with him if that's the case.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 16:11 GMT
#678
On February 18 2015 01:02 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
Firstly, if you're hinting at what I believe you're hinting at, Tere, use your best judgment and your coach. You don't need everyone else's reads to do it. Put on those big girl pants xP

And give your own reads, cause you know how this confirmation bias stuff works, and you're feeding into it right now.

Zlefin...let's try something, okay? Would you like to play a game with me? Lol, JJB will probably recognize this game.

I find your tone odd and condescending. We're already playing a game, it's called mafia. If you want to say something, say it.


I was deliberately being condescending toward Tere, so that's fair xP

This game is actually meant to help you (and us) figure out where your head is at. I'd ask you to give certain types of adjectives for particular players. The point is just to respond quickly without thinking. Are you up to it? (You don't have to and I won't scumread you for it if you don't want to, but I do think it'll help.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 16:18 GMT
#680
Actually, lol, our case-maker just found your reasons in your filter, Zlefin, but if you do want to play the game anyway, just let me know ^^

Nah, Truffle, it was only his later play that was bugging me, anyway. His point system reminds me of my brother's lol.

Speaking of paranoia...JJB isn't getting scumread this game. Seems like a dumb reason to find him scummy, but usually everyone is like JJB, scummiest of scum! Am I nuts?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 16:25 GMT
#683
On February 18 2015 01:22 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
Actually, lol, our case-maker just found your reasons in your filter, Zlefin, but if you do want to play the game anyway, just let me know ^^

Nah, Truffle, it was only his later play that was bugging me, anyway. His point system reminds me of my brother's lol.

Speaking of paranoia...JJB isn't getting scumread this game. Seems like a dumb reason to find him scummy, but usually everyone is like JJB, scummiest of scum! Am I nuts?
You townread him. Given my experience in previous games with him, I townread him too (especially given your townread). For much of the game, we have had two of the larger thread presences. We sort of brushed aside suspicions of him, so that would be our fault.

I certainly expect to see his play pick up on Day 2 (it normally does, right?). But for now, I don't think I see anything to indicate that he is any more scummy than normal.


Thank you for the sanity check lol. You're right; for once my opinion is dominating the thread. Which could be very bad given I'm actually not the best at reading people ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 16:28 GMT
#684
On February 18 2015 01:23 Tere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
Firstly, if you're hinting at what I believe you're hinting at, Tere, use your best judgment and your coach. You don't need everyone else's reads to do it. Put on those big girl pants xP

And give your own reads, cause you know how this confirmation bias stuff works, and you're feeding into it right now.

Zlefin...let's try something, okay? Would you like to play a game with me? Lol, JJB will probably recognize this game.


Oh, I don't need those reads, believe me. I'm very interested in people's reactions at me putting myself up as tasty Day 2 lynchbait though


I really don't see the purpose of your play here, Tere, from either alignment really. All joking/irony aside.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 16:49 GMT
#689
Lol, if you're asking Trfel to assume you're acting scummy because you're town, you clearly don't understand the Truffle

Okay, well, this doesn't feel like it's getting anywhere. Gonna go off and do my own thing until more people show up in the thread (also got a midterm to write @.@)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 16:59 GMT
#691
On February 18 2015 01:55 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
Actually, lol, our case-maker just found your reasons in your filter, Zlefin, but if you do want to play the game anyway, just let me know ^^

Nah, Truffle, it was only his later play that was bugging me, anyway. His point system reminds me of my brother's lol.

Speaking of paranoia...JJB isn't getting scumread this game. Seems like a dumb reason to find him scummy, but usually everyone is like JJB, scummiest of scum! Am I nuts?

pass on the game, I don't think it will help me clear up my thoughts at all.
I want to use my time to review the two people I still have no reads either way on (shining and elyas) to see if I can figure something out on them.

As to JJB, I've had him at mild scumread if that makes you feel any better. Which, by your description of him, would be his usual state. It'll take some time for me to figure out how to compensate for how naturally scummy certain people sound, since I don't have a background on them.


Believe it or not, that actually does make me feel better ^^

Eh, I don't know how to explain JJB other than he's a bit of a happy clown, but the biggest points in his favor at EoD were how he kept the discussion open. I know he was pushing you, but from a mafia perspective, if you know the leading wagon is town you either just sit there and let others push it so you don't look bad when he flips town, or you say "this is a bad lynch" but do nothing to stop it. JJB doesn't really fall in either category.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 17:12 GMT
#696
On February 18 2015 02:05 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 01:59 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2015 01:55 zlefin wrote:
On February 18 2015 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
Actually, lol, our case-maker just found your reasons in your filter, Zlefin, but if you do want to play the game anyway, just let me know ^^

Nah, Truffle, it was only his later play that was bugging me, anyway. His point system reminds me of my brother's lol.

Speaking of paranoia...JJB isn't getting scumread this game. Seems like a dumb reason to find him scummy, but usually everyone is like JJB, scummiest of scum! Am I nuts?

pass on the game, I don't think it will help me clear up my thoughts at all.
I want to use my time to review the two people I still have no reads either way on (shining and elyas) to see if I can figure something out on them.

As to JJB, I've had him at mild scumread if that makes you feel any better. Which, by your description of him, would be his usual state. It'll take some time for me to figure out how to compensate for how naturally scummy certain people sound, since I don't have a background on them.


Believe it or not, that actually does make me feel better ^^

Eh, I don't know how to explain JJB other than he's a bit of a happy clown, but the biggest points in his favor at EoD were how he kept the discussion open. I know he was pushing you, but from a mafia perspective, if you know the leading wagon is town you either just sit there and let others push it so you don't look bad when he flips town, or you say "this is a bad lynch" but do nothing to stop it. JJB doesn't really fall in either category.

Do others concur with rsoultin's description of JJB?
I ask because I don't want to base any changes entirely off this in the unlikely event the two of them are mafia.
If others concur with the description, I'm going to give a positive point to JJB, based on rsoultins comments in the last page, which also help reassess JJBs early game (in particular his joke which I didn't like, more info on its normalcy for him ameliorates it).


Well, you can see how he acted pre-game? And also in the game Truffle just linked cause he was in that one, too lol. He posted a JJB death video at the end that I still find lolworthy ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 17:32 GMT
#698
On February 18 2015 02:23 ElyAs wrote:
Got some time for this !

Reacting to the current train of thought, rsoultin, do you think jjb has started changing his playstyle to include more traditional reads and playstyle analysis ? Or is he really playing differently and more carefully than normal ?

I intend to share my gameplan, I'm reading some filters right now.


I don't see a huge change in his play-style? His reaction to Hier's mechanism looked very him. Trying to get people to talk to him more is a little new, because I'd say his first two games were more reactive.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 22:58 GMT
#731
Shining, I have a problem with you, actually ^^

You have this wonderful way of conveniently being absent at key points when you're scum. Telling us you're going to read 10 pages then oops, just gonna sheep instead. Now, I know this can happen, but you really milked these sorts of things your last scum game.

Are Tere and Trfel your scumreads right now?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 23:07 GMT
#734
You did, Truffle. Close to EoD I think.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 23:21 GMT
#737
On February 18 2015 08:15 The Shining wrote:
Eh. I unfortunately like your response. If there were more inconsistencies in your filter, I might be more inclined to ram you but you're also willing to admit you were wrong and misinterpreted a few things.

Maybe I'm just weary that you're towning me for points that I've addressed that Tere is now scumreading me for. I have a tendency to believe scum give out free townreads in the hopes of earning some towncred from the free townread townie. Might need to stop being so paranoid.

Moving on.

Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 02:45 ElyAs wrote:
I also really want to hear from The Shining, I liked his opening, but he has been missing since EOD.

I get that you didn't have a lot of time before EOD to share your reads, but I'd really like to read them. Also you started the zlefin wagon and unvoted before EOD, were you looking for someone in particular outside of zlefin / Hier ?



My irl schedule and timing made it difficult to do, but I mentioned before that my vote on Zlefin was because of a lack of thread presence and wanting to see more from him. It really was just a pressure vote, something Trfel even commented on, but I wasn't able to get back in time to get any shenanies done.

The fact that only JJB was on him and against a Hier lynch was another reason for my vote. Was scum going to protect Zlefin as scum or push him for a mislynch as town? In my experience, scum will keep 1 vote on the main wagon(Hier) and 1 off of it to avoid the blame of the mislynch. And I'm sure JJB would've looked slightly better at voting analysis time if we were both on Zlefin, instead of just him once I unvoted.

Tere, my 2 shots? Ely for lacking content and thread presence, I don't see the scumhunting really coming out of him.

And you. For the same reason. Willingness to engage and post looks good on the outside, but you haven't given me anything to work with except for...me? And ElyAs. If I'm right on ElyAs, you're setting yourself up to mislynch me as scum and either back off on your partner or bus him if his push picks up some speed.

Next post is post-Tere filterdive.


What are you trying to say here, Shining? -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 23:36 GMT
#744
Alright, Shining, lol. I must admit that the only thing bugging me really was your behavior around EoD, so it gets a pass for now. If you keep doing that shit, though, I'll try my darndest to get you lynched

I did half-catch you last time so I can put the paranoia away for a little while longer.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 17 2015 23:59 GMT
#750
Okay, playing two games at once is bad ^^; And this will be a shitty post so sorry in advance. I'm going off impressions and feels that may or may not be entirely accurate.

If this is Truffle's scum game, he's improved by a mile. So I doubt it is. The work he's been putting in is classic town!Trfel, and he's also normally riddled with doubts. The naysayer, if you will, even on his own cases xP

JJB I'm pretty sure is town. Toneread.


Middle-of-the-roaders

Her thoughts are echoing mine a lot, but some things, like the aggressiveness and how her reads seem to sheep others', are giving me pause. Keep an eye on Tere.

Shining, if you keep disappearing at convenient times, you're probably scum. That sheep vote was terribad.

Zfelin, some red flags, but could just be newbie town, and i'm actually leaning town on you right now I think.


ElyAs is the naysayer who didn't try to derail the wagon

No more time! lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 18 2015 00:00 GMT
#751
ElyAs is my top scumread -_- that wasn't clear
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 18 2015 00:01 GMT
#752
and I forgot silver lol >< which means she's forgettable, damn
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 18 2015 00:05 GMT
#756
>< sorry guys for that terrible goodbye post

glhf <3
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 26 2015 00:03 GMT
#1710
lol

gg bro!

nah, man, he just injured himself. he's already paying the karmic price for fooling you as scum, truffle <3 sides i'd never poison the guy who just told me that he plays these games cause he likes playing with me ^^ compliments so work on me lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 26 2015 00:05 GMT
#1716
>>

I said..."Hey guys everyone is townreading jarjar I'm paranoid that I'm wrong"

and someone said "nah it's cause you are and they're just sheeping you"

and I accepted that. bad me. >< PLUS HIS TONE COMPLETELY CHANGED WHEN I WAS DEAD...he only got goofy again at the end when he basically had the win ;o;

it's cool though, lol, he's hard to read
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
#1
WardiTV1085
TKL 251
Rex122
IntoTheiNu 39
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 251
Rex 122
Livibee 41
ForJumy 15
uThermal 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 45726
Rain 7627
Sea 3198
Bisu 2939
ggaemo 1870
ZerO 996
Mong 929
BeSt 757
Soulkey 744
Barracks 530
[ Show more ]
Snow 285
Soma 254
Pusan 237
hero 231
Larva 211
actioN 209
Zeus 186
Mini 174
sSak 139
Killer 96
Sharp 79
Dewaltoss 68
JYJ56
Sacsri 44
Sea.KH 44
Sexy 34
sorry 29
[sc1f]eonzerg 27
soO 22
Aegong 22
Shine 17
Bale 16
yabsab 15
IntoTheRainbow 13
scan(afreeca) 11
JulyZerg 10
Terrorterran 8
ivOry 5
Stormgate
Lowko508
BeoMulf175
Dota 2
Gorgc5532
qojqva3218
420jenkins33
syndereN27
Counter-Strike
fl0m424
flusha287
kRYSTAL_54
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor23
Other Games
singsing2854
hiko1543
B2W.Neo1423
crisheroes500
XcaliburYe391
DeMusliM385
RotterdaM216
XaKoH 116
KnowMe96
ArmadaUGS90
QueenE77
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV41
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta23
• iHatsuTV 10
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki12
• iopq 5
• FirePhoenix2
• Michael_bg 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV584
League of Legends
• Nemesis2706
• Jankos1193
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
41m
RSL Revival
11h 41m
RSL Revival
19h 41m
SC Evo League
21h 41m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d
CSO Cup
1d 1h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.