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On February 19 2015 07:49 The Shining wrote: Language. That's just rude. I'll take the doubles, though, lol. Can't wait.
Don't see whose character or skill I was attacking, either. Simply stating in the only 2 Newbie games I've played, there have been replacements. It has ruined my experience, personally, so I will not participate in one again. Have to stick to Student/non-Newbie games. Its just a statistic.
A lot of salt coming from you. Guilt getting to you?
No, I'll troll you 6 ways to Sunday if you leg it though.
If you are town, go find scum, sensibly. I don't accept AFKs for lame reasons. Chop chop. Don't make me bring out my probably not safe for work gifs relating to that. Nobody will be the winner
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I'm still letting everyone else peck your liver though (that's a classical reference, counteracts swearing, right?)
Sleeping now nn town and scum xx
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Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need?
(what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from)
I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?
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[ I swear like a sailor. Nobody should run away, nobody should feel they can't post, this is a game and we are here to have fun. I will try to moderate my language, this will probably lead to hilarious alternatives that you should feel free to mock me for
I don't do ad homimem. I will righteously burn a lame argument with fire, but I don't ad hominmem a person. If anyone feels I am doing that they can either a) call me out in thread, in which case I apologise b) I am open to PMs but it's a no PM game, if you want to do that I am cool with that but it's really up to the mods. Or set up a QT and me and the mods can all hang in there and we can discuss.
Or save it up and we can do in postgame.
I genuinely am not a honeybadger, I really don't want anyone to quit this game because of anything I am doing. My door is open, OK? 
(I make most excellent macaroons, I can bring them to the post game party )
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[I forgot the bit where you can PM the GMs and they can tell me to STFU Tere. That's cool too.
Seriously, guys, life is too short. Let's have fun together. I don't want anyone to have sadmafia, OK? sadmafia is not cool]
back to your regular programming.
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On February 19 2015 08:30 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 08:21 Tere wrote:Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need? (what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from) I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?  Your filter is ridicously long since last night lol which is definatley a good thing. Hard for scum to BS for an entire day lol I think you ended up on silver and shining. Silver hasn't posted yet, and you got in a piss argument. Do you see them as a possible scumteam? Two lurkers seems off for a scumteam, but it is possible. IF they can't be a scumteam, would you pick one over the other? I'm thinking silver over Shining, although both of their behaviors are similar to the games I have played with them in. Do you feel like you might be tunneling Shining?
I think you've gotten muddled up, both those people have posted since then. Silver has posted a WOT that I don't feel is strong. The Shining has aggroed on me. If I am honest I wouldn't say either of them were lurkers, per se,
I wouldn't say I'm tunnelling Shining right now. I haven't constructed a case yet - I am leaving that quite deliberately. As the person who entered Day 2 with the most scum reads, I shouldn't be generating cases right now.
What I want to do now is sleep and give people room to post for 8-12 hours. I have opinions, but I would rather people came to independent conclusions. It's easy for scum to refute conclusions, less easy to drive their own agenda.
Having said that, I'd love a loose read from you once you've combed through everything. You are a town read, but your thought processes are somewhat alien to me. I need to understand where you are coming from more I think. Night night
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On February 19 2015 08:35 jarjarbinks wrote: Shining you aren't actually quitting right? We've already had 1 replacement. Think about the other players in this game.
I don't believe he is quitting.
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On February 19 2015 08:39 The Shining wrote: I'm still posting. I'm still active. I'm diving filters right now, just like I said I would in my last post. If I find something more damning than the fact that Tere is now towning my supposed scum partner and one of her top scumreads(ElyAs) who just happened to be one of my top scumreads and basically picking off low hanging fruit one by one to see who is the easiest mislynch(Zlefin, Ely, me in rapid succession, I just happened to be the only one willing to call her out on her scattershot suspicions), then I'll share it.
so are you cool to gladiate me tomorrow then?
I think it will be 1 for 1.
That hurts scum.
I know I am town.
Want to play?
Are you that confident?
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Can you set a poll up in this place? Just curious?
Otherwise, straw poll, everyone want me to gladiate The Shining?
(this doesn't let you off my homework of find two other scum candidates apart from me. Just saying )
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If that's the consensus, I'm totally up for it 
Sleep now
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You and me, baby, bring it. No other lynch targets.
That confident of your scumread?
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I'm willing to die for a one for one, what about you?
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On February 19 2015 09:00 Silverarte wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 08:57 jarjarbinks wrote:On February 19 2015 08:48 Tere wrote:On February 19 2015 08:30 jarjarbinks wrote:On February 19 2015 08:21 Tere wrote:Yes, but I need to go to bed soon. What do you need? (what I need from you is to reach out to us. I think I get where you are coming from but it's liking parsing Earth to Martian. If you can't speak your language to talk to me, pretend I'm your sister, that was very insightful, not perfect but a reasonable base to start from) I'll get a cup of coffee. You are my second strongest townread right now so what do you need from me?  Your filter is ridicously long since last night lol which is definatley a good thing. Hard for scum to BS for an entire day lol I think you ended up on silver and shining. Silver hasn't posted yet, and you got in a piss argument. Do you see them as a possible scumteam? Two lurkers seems off for a scumteam, but it is possible. IF they can't be a scumteam, would you pick one over the other? I'm thinking silver over Shining, although both of their behaviors are similar to the games I have played with them in. Do you feel like you might be tunneling Shining? I think you've gotten muddled up, both those people have posted since then. Silver has posted a WOT that I don't feel is strong. The Shining has aggroed on me. If I am honest I wouldn't say either of them were lurkers, per se, I wouldn't say I'm tunnelling Shining right now. I haven't constructed a case yet - I am leaving that quite deliberately. As the person who entered Day 2 with the most scum reads, I shouldn't be generating cases right now. What I want to do now is sleep and give people room to post for 8-12 hours. I have opinions, but I would rather people came to independent conclusions. It's easy for scum to refute conclusions, less easy to drive their own agenda. Having said that, I'd love a loose read from you once you've combed through everything. You are a town read, but your thought processes are somewhat alien to me. I need to understand where you are coming from more I think. Night night  They have posted, but I figured the posts they made changed your view on them lol Silver posted once and left and Shining is still tunneled on you so I figured your opinion of him prob got worse if anything else. I've got some work to do on here. I haven't given a thorough enough read on silver and she deserves one. Silver is still lurking like she said she would be. She's also just working on what she said she would be. 
Silver, that's incredibly lame. Woman up.
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On February 19 2015 09:07 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 08:54 Tere wrote: I'm willing to die for a one for one, what about you? I'm reading "I'm willing to win the game for scum right now" if you are in fact town. I already stated earlier I don't care about me being mislynched anymore. My vote is on you. If town is onboard, they vote with me. Or they vote against me. When I flip town, they'll want to lynch you until you manage to WOT your way out of it and win for scum. I'll even go first, if that's what you want. Of course, town votes decide it. I just need the townies here to promise me they will reevaluate what little I have been able to give them after I flip.
OK. Either you are obvscum or completely misguided town at this point. I'm kinda insulted if you can read my play in any way as throwing the game for scum. Seriously. Something something (insert strong language as appropriate).
If you are town, and that is what you are thinking and you think scum has won the argument, you need to wake up, stop sulking, get back to base , and stop sulking.
Because, regardless of your perception, I'm on your side. Really. If your wincon is to win with town, I'm on your side. You don't have to trust me with this, but I need you to have a mode that can consider it...
i'm town, and reaching out to you here. I think you are a smart and capable guy, I've read your town games, you are town to be proud of associating with. Don't check out. I'm on your side, and reaching out to you here. Don't lock down, OK? You can analyse me and decide I'm full of shit, but don't check out right now.
I want town to win too. Come talk to me. You don't have to trust me right now (and I do need to sleep, it's bedtime here) but I want you to take some time out, take a deep breath, and if you are town, and want town to win, you need to come talk to me, OK? Because you are either locking down caught scum or passionate town without a lock and I have NFI right now.
Just talk to me. I'm not Circe. There's no game mechanic to turn you into a pig. What harm can there be, right?
Time out. I need to sleep. Talk to me, OK?
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On February 19 2015 09:10 Trfel wrote: I'm glad to see that there were several pages while I was gone. I'm still reading, but I wanted to drop in and say this.
Tere, do you mind if I don't respond to your post? My impression of what you are asking me to do is exactly what I am attempting to do. I feel like I am having a hard time communicating my true intent with you (probably my fault, not yours), so I'm not sure that responding would help anything. Though if you do want me to respond, of course I can do so, I'm just not sure that it would help with anything.
Oh, and zlefin, I hope you won't mind if I don't list my reads like that, just because I don't like quantifying or categorizing my reads. But as of Page 44, Silverarte seems to be the best lynch.
I don't mind if you don't respond right now. I'm talking.
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On February 19 2015 09:13 Trfel wrote: Wait, we're only allowed to lynch Tere or The Shining?
Do I get in a say in this? I think both are town. And I don't want to lynch town.
I am just going to point out there is no mechanic in the original setup to cover this, now shush.
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On February 19 2015 09:14 Trfel wrote: Please don't throw the game for the sake of argument and ego....
Hush now, he's either rage quit or pretended to rage quit or I'm not sure but i've been told off for swearing. Whatever alignment he is, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts he ain't quitting. And most of this is alignment neutral for me. If you have a meta on whether scum Shining would crumble against a strong defence, hit me with it, but right now I think it's a passionate person doing something passionate and it's not alignment indicatiive
(and quite frankly, in a newbie game, I'd throw to the newbies if I had to. Not that I won't give them a run for a money if it's neutral (because an easy ride is boring ))
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On February 19 2015 09:22 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 08:48 ElyAs wrote: I don't know. I really don't. Your play has been consistent with what you said in the beginning (about voting analysis and hunting inconsistences) and your case on Tere is also consistent. But I'm not moving with my read on Tere, so you're either misguided town or scum in my eyes. For now I can't decide so slight scum.
zlefin asked for a list of reads, here it is :
Townish : Trfel, Tere, ElyAs Null : JJB (need to filter dive), zlefin (want to filter dive too, my earlier scumread on you feels misguided to me.) Slight scumread : The Shining Scummy : Silverarte.
I really want to finish filter diving before casting my vote, but if I don't find a better lynch I'm okay with lynching Silver.
It's getting late, I'll have more tomorrow. Something is off. Ely has an unwillingness to even consider the idea that his read on Tere might be wrong, whereas even now, I'm still weary I may mistakenly mislynch. Since you can't decide, you'll just go with scum since that's what your townread is going with, right? One of you is scum but you strong towning her so hard gives me pause. And I'd rather not get hung up on unflipped association.
The Shining, I need to go to bed, I need to establish if you are taking your ball and going home or what. If it's not and for whatever reason that's a play, you can send people who are pissed off with me towards me, OK? The play is OK. I just need to sleep soon *shrug*
There's a lot of time left in the day, to point out the obvious, you kids carry on.
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I'm not a special snowflake. Yell at me all you want. Just make your case clear.
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I think everyone needs to time out, and the Shining needs to get his butt in. That's where I'm at, anyway. Time out 10 hours, goodnight.
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