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Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 17:31 GMT
#368
Trfel, why aren't you pushing for the Shining lynch, you built up a case on him?
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 17:31 GMT
#369
I miss being able to see who's online and reading the thread
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 17:35 GMT
#372
Experience copy / paste from coaching board.

"I'm not really a complete newbie - just new to Team Liquid. I've probably played in 20 - 25 timed forum mafia games in the past 4 - 5 years, and read about the same number. However, quite a few of those have been on very casual sites where reading and analysis really isn't a thing, hence the shift (I hope) to a site that plays a little more seriously."

So I've played quite a few games, but I'm not always the greatest case maker, and I tend to rely on tonal reads probably more than I ought, if I'm honest.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 17:36 GMT
#374
On February 17 2015 02:33 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 02:30 Tere wrote:
On February 17 2015 02:26 rsoultin wrote:
Meh -_- Truffle

Why you're fighting this Hier lynch so much, yet voting for him anyway and setting up for an AFK vote...it is not giving me the warm town fuzzies.


Me neither.

Lack of alternate wagon push = inexperienced scum partner?

Yes, that is a distinct possibility. I suppose it's also possible that Hier quit and told his partner to bus.
I know it's ridiculous, and I can't explain it, but Tere still seems suspicious to me. Her logic is fine, her reads are fine, her tone is comfortable and relaxed, but everything else seems really off. Just, please, keep an eye out...


Uhhh... you want to flesh that out a bit? :D

(no, I'm not bussing Hier)
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 17:37 GMT
#375
On February 17 2015 02:36 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 02:31 Tere wrote:
Trfel, why aren't you pushing for the Shining lynch, you built up a case on him?

That wasn't so much a case, as a collection of thoughts. If it was a case, believe me that I would be pushing it, and you would know.

Rsoultin, I don't see any reasonably appealing counterwagons to someone who isn't really defending himself.

And I really do need to leave. Stop being so distracting.


But, but shinies!
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 18:01 GMT
#377
I can try!

First off, I think this is his first game:
On February 01 2015 20:25 zlefin wrote:
I should try this one of these days, so
/in


Then says he's a slight town read on trfel and slight scum on jarjar, null on the rest. Wants to consider policy lynching for inactivity after 12 hours, which is a little keen IMO. Says reads are mostly tonal and impressions, which I don't see as alignment indicative (given I use tone a lot myself). Townreads Hier (plan too much effort for scum) and rso (likes objections and analysis) after some clarification on WIFOM, then tries to connect you, demonstrating said WIFOM.

Still wants to policy lynch even though he thinks it's unlikely it's a scum tell - which the Shining picked up on and I do think is a bit off too, it's funny logic for town. Dislikes the banter between Trfel and jarjar saying jarjar's joking makes him look scummy (I think the opposite). Doesn't like one of Hier's thesaurus posts (nor did I). Posts up his tally system, saying jarjar, hier, silver and trfel are lynchpool, prefers trfel for most information. Asks if he should OMGUS Shining for his push on him. There's a funny question about town probability of Trfel's townread on Hier. Confirms it is his first game and settles for Hier as most probable lynch.

Ugh.

There's aspects of that logic that I don't like for town (wanting to policy lynch while recognising unlikely to be scum, disliking the banter, wanting to lynch Trfel for most info despite not finding him the most scummy for example), but I can also see that as coming from newbie town, particularly newbie town who seems to be trying to feel their way on their own without relying too much on their coaching support.

Bits look scummy but there might be a genuine reason for that in his new player status.

I appreciate that's not much help.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 18:07 GMT
#381
No, you should definitely start talking to us. If you are town, we need to understand your thought processes more, because they are a little unusual and I think you are approaching the game in a different way to most. It's not necessarily a bad thing, just need to understand I think.

So talk to us!
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 18:09 GMT
#382
We also need Hier to get their butt in here and post.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 18:29 GMT
#386
Jarjar!

Talk to us Jarjar, where is your head at now

(Hi, BTW)
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 18:33 GMT
#388
On February 15 2015 15:26 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 15:20 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:17 jarjarbinks wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:14 rsoultin wrote:
On February 15 2015 15:10 jarjarbinks wrote:
Rsoultin: Do you think you could actually RNG lynch someone? I don't think you could lol


Speak of the devil ^^ Did you have a hot date tonight I don't know about, bro?

Probably not -amused-

I'm sure there's a how-to online somewhere, though >> I could just google it xP


Nope, totally 5th wheeled a weird after church double date thing tho. I should prob get one of those date things.

LOL just make sure you don't actually read all of the rules first


Or my role PM? xP

Dude, if only you'd posted that in-thread; it could totally make the wtf awards ^^

So, opinions on any of the players/goings-on thus far?


Trf's opening: slightly less crazy than last game I played with him in. No random vote the guy who might be inactive play. Wants to promote discussion. I could go either way cuz he "tried" to do that as scum.

Shining- not much reaction there. What i'd typically expect I guess?

You- I expect you to do what you do every game. You did it...lol

Everyone else: I'm guessing they are gone for valentine's. I'd get worried if people aren't chiming in when I wake up tomorrow.


While you are here, would you explain why you posted the bolded bit to rsoulin?
I am lacking in the meta here.

Thanks
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 19:37 GMT
#413
ahhh, that explains the brother sister combo.

If Hier is town, he really needs to come back into the thread and start reaching out, because lurking away looks terribad.

What's everyone's thoughts on Trfel's case on the Shining? What's everyone thinking about Silverarte?
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:01 GMT
#416
Case plz.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:06 GMT
#417
So, the only person you aren't scum reading is ElyAs, based on that, right?
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:06 GMT
#418
Let's make that cases plz
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:13 GMT
#421
Yeah, I did. But I misread this bit as a scum list. My bad. As you were. That's a bit less WTF of you.

"I will be adding The Shining to my probable town list, to join jarjarbinks and Trfel. His actions do not make sense from a mafia perspective. Creating a third lynch candidate with no prior suspicion hovering over zlefin on the grounds of suggesting unlikely scenarios seems to be weak town play."

I don't agree with the rationale, but it's a bit less WTF of you. Still not getting the massive fuzzies out of all that, though.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:14 GMT
#423
I'm also not liking the ad hominem on rsoultin. It makes you look petty and isn't helping your case any.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:17 GMT
#425
Out of interest, are you still intending to follow your Bridges strategy? (bold mine)

On February 16 2015 07:50 Hier wrote:
Trfel:
It only takes one other player to declare his or her support for the model to get people to support its use. I know how Bridges works and how to use it to get a town victory. I will always abide by its rules, but if you later decide it's not worth it by all means abandon it.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:18 GMT
#426
Trfel, since I think you are probably town and having a paranoia moment, how can I reach out to you and help with this?
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:36 GMT
#437
On February 17 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote:
I'm thinking that maybe I'm not making my reads as clear as I should, reading Hier's narrative.

Is anyone else having trouble deciphering where I stand on my posts?


I just went through your filter again, and you seem clear enough to me. But I think we do approach the game in quite a similar way, at least that's my gut.
Tere
Profile Joined February 2015
United Kingdom225 Posts
February 16 2015 20:42 GMT
#444
On February 17 2015 05:24 Hier wrote:
Now that I've started reading Tere's filter I've noticed that she does not have a case on me at all. She has taken rsoultin's route of "Your post is bad, Hier." No suggestion of intention, or a probable goal I might have as scum. This seems like an easy bandwagon to jump onto, scoring a free townie lynch.


Ballsacks, I make my view of you pretty damn clear in the post explaining my vote, including specific posts I think are scummy, and have pointed out one of the items I think most problematic again very recently. It's hard not to see that as misrepresentation. I am trying to give you the opportunity to clear yourself but it's not going very well for me here.

Are you going to answer my question?

Also a bonus question, are you having fun here, it doesn't look like you are having fun?

Final RFI - this might be how you are, it's possible. Can you please link your previous games at TL Mafia with alignment?

I will go have a read through those filters but right now I'm not feeling a reason to move my vote.
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