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On January 28 2015 04:44 GlowingBear wrote:
If you believe mafia would have hammered me you have to think that toad is mafia The only thing that prevents me to vote toad is that palmar is scum reading him
Toad was not in thread at the time. I already looked into that.
It was Robik, me, Onegu, Palmar, and both Robik and I had votes on you already.
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On January 28 2015 04:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Yeah but when it came back to the thread he instantly voted me reach makes no sense Because he cared down read on me and He admitted to me voted me for survival
You mean Toad right? Palmar voted you prior. Then it was Toad and then VE.
So you are scumreading Toad (or questioning him) because you're saying he voted you for survival?
It looks like your phone might have autocorrected you on this since you said you were driving.
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On January 28 2015 05:19 Eden1892 wrote:
GB, you're gonna need to explain this play ASAP.
100%
Previous post is gibberish, but I'm inclined to blame that on mobile autocorrect.
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Also Eden I threw a few questions your way on page 46 re: Palmar and VE if you knew anything that could fill in the blanks.
Also if you knew Palmar as someone that promotes policy lynches D1.
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On January 28 2015 04:53 Palmar wrote:
I don't care which but please stop playing in the best interest of town
thank you
You have a scumread on Toad, presumably.
Why are/were you voting a policy read over a scum read?
Why aren't you pushing Toad to everyone else who was in here?
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On January 28 2015 04:42 Half the Sky wrote:
So that begs the question why Palmar didn't check our scumreads. Does this make sense?
On January 28 2015 05:37 Eden1892 wrote:
What do you mean by check your scumreads?
Well if what Toad says is true and Palmar is not one to policy lynch D1, and if he threw down a vote for martyring, it would make him look odd at best, considering he had a scumread (Toad), and two of us had scumreads on GB. He didn't say explicitly he was sheeping either Robik or myself, just that his vote on GB was policy.
It possibly could be a scum taking advantage of the vote pile already on. But then again looking at his filter, he already had GB on a scumlist from when he started playing more seriously.
On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town
So this leaves:
GB
lian
Toad
Onegu
But then again I'm bad and idk.
The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?
I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much.
On January 27 2015 23:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 21:54 GlowingBear wrote:
HTS I'm not ignoring your posts, I'm just not reading a lot from the thread yet. Sometimes I get a random page and see what's going on. That's all.
You're calling me mafia for things that doesn't make me mafia. You're too tunnelled. who is mafia. Clearly, by this post, you don't think HTS is mafia, as do you think robik is. Me and my bro VE are town, and in your world you must be town. So that leaves Toad liancourt eden onegu two of which were your original townreads. lian/toad so that leaves Eden and Onegu as the mafia team. Eden isn't mafia, so.... onegu is mafia?
Then after this he votes GB.
Deary me, this is hard.
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I hate meta reading people I have never played before but this is really bothering me.
What is a scum Palmar like?
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On January 28 2015 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I've just got out of my finals, dude. I'm coming home and I'll explain once I get there.
I hope they went well. We'll see you soon. I should be up for a few more hours here.
I wish I could talk more to the American players though. Stupid timezones.
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Alright. For those of us who wish to try:
Here's Palmar's games out of the database. He has NOT rolled scum often at all this year.
+ Show Spoiler [Palmar] +
Have at it. Any input would be grand.
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First glance - Loads of one-liners in Cell and Russia Today.
He was scum in world heavyweight and advocated policy lynching D1. He spammed a lot though in that game. Had a few walls of text though.
Going to check out town games...
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On January 28 2015 06:29 Eden1892 wrote:
i'm not reading all that shit lmfao
Yea this is painful. I'm just trying to see if I can draw any sort of parallel between then and now, and only touching the most recent games.
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I honestly hope Palmar is scum. I really hate the way he's playing this game in general.
Rant over.
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On January 28 2015 07:03 Eden1892 wrote:
i don't know what part of "stop giving scum a chance to cut short our time by 24 hours" y'all don't get
I've been out of thread for obvious reasons.
We need maximum time to discuss as anyone here can get nightkilled.
I have no problem revoting/possibly hammering GB and taking responsibility in the unlikely event I'm wrong.
And, I do trust Eden.
That said:
##unvote
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Now, where were we again?
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On January 28 2015 06:46 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 06:26 Half the Sky wrote:Alright. For those of us who wish to try: Here's Palmar's games out of the database. He has NOT rolled scum often at all this year. + Show Spoiler [Palmar] +Have at it. Any input would be grand. who cares about palmar...that's for people who will be alive in future days to worry about.
Why are you saying this?
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Need to go AFK for about 30m. I hope more are around then.
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Palmar if you return, please answer my questions. Cheers.
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On January 28 2015 08:20 Onegu wrote:
Ok can we talk about my liancourt case? Like since GB stepped off the cliff, and is most likely town doing the same shit I did. I think a liancourt lynch is best, followed by palmar, like getting it pointed out he didn't pollicy lynch someone in another game that martyred is a big red flag. Plus it is highly likely that liancourt is mafia and just wasn't around to hammer GB as he was sleeping because it was like 2am in Korea at the time i think.
I actually think this (the bolded) is WIFOM. I see what you are saying here, but I generally think timezone arguments are WIFOM because you don't know a person's schedule and why they are out of thread. For example VE, an American, wasn't in thread, and you could argue he wasn't in thread because he was busy at work.
If you're going to lynch Lian, let's talk about the case contents...
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I made one post very early this morning on his comparison between Eden's gameplay in this game and in the NYE party game, and they were two early situations. But he isn't pushing Eden hard (or isn't active enough) to push Eden hard, so I don't know whether it's a convoluted read or if he's really trying to mislead us into thinking Eden is scum. If it's the latter, obviously not doing a good job of it.
The nonsensical stuff and not following Eden's request to me (this all happening whilst I was asleep last night) is a combination to me of trolling and question dodging, but I can also see why he wants to play catch up if he's answering others' questions. He quoted some of the stuff I said though, I recall some editorials but I don't recall him even answering any questions.
The post read on Toad though was a good post as it drove discussion and made me think. So all this would make me feel nullish, at least on the behaviour last night alone.
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I am going to head to bed now. It doesn't seem like anyone is in thread at the moment, but Onegu, etc keep bringing it up.
Lian will/should be up very soon, if not up already, so I am interested to hear what he has to say.
Good night everyone.
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