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On January 26 2015 11:32 IAmRobik wrote:
You call me scum and have me on your scum list. Why aren't you voting me? You literally have me atop your scum list.
Especially since your top scum voted you for being a hypocritical POS who is calling HTS scum...I vote HTS and you call me scum. You're not even thinking about the game. You're clearly just throwing around a bunch of names of people who you want to lynch and are noncommittal about any of it.
Get Rekt Mafia Scum
Starts suspecting me because I'm not making associative reads.
+ Show Spoiler + On January 26 2015 12:07 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 11:55 GlowingBear wrote:On January 26 2015 11:54 IAmRobik wrote:On January 26 2015 11:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik, your read on onegu pls who the fuck is that and has s/he posted since i started playing? Nope, read the thread and player list please. Or you can just read my mind note on him, but you'll be spoiled. I think you're scum, so your "read" on him doesn't matter to me
This is where I started to suspect Robik. His reluctance to read onegu striked me as odd. As I said I had a read on onegu at that time and asked Robik just to give thoughts, he just says I'm scum and he won't read what I wrote. Bizarre. If you have a scumread, you're probably give some thoughts at key posts so you can keep confirming of rediscovering the guy's alignment. But pursuing it is a thing Robik isn't doing.
+ Show Spoiler + On January 27 2015 01:55 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way, if Robik is mafia, we kill a mafia
If Robik is town, we get rid of him anyway
win/win If you're town this game, kindly see that you don't fucking /in any game that i ever play in moving forward. I'm tired of your bullshit. you think I'm mafia every fucking game. You're wrong and annoying and you don't deserve to ever be in a fucking game with me. From this point on, I will not be reading or responding to any fucking post you make [redacted what i wrote because i don't want to be banned]
I thought this post was genuine but re reading it its ridiculously fabricated. Why? Because posts made out of anger will never have "revisions" like "this was redacted because I don't want to get modkilled". It's completely fabricated. Even his argument that a game where we're together never moves forward because I scumread him everytime is bullshit. Last game we've played together I gave him a town pass day 1. I TOWNREAD YOU. And I am one of the most prolific players in TL. I know how to generate discussion. Student mafia V had a busy day1. It stopped moving forward after I died.
But the most important argument on Robik is that although he says he is pushing me, he actually isn't trying to solve the fucking game and he isn't trying to discover my alignment. I give reads, he doesn't give a fuck, he doesn't try to see where I'm getting them from.
He isn't trying to convince the thread I'm scum, although he is hard scumreading me. I can't stress this enough. He doesn't search for others alignment, he doesn't gives townreads like he does as town. He just scumreads me without convincing anyone.
The only thing he does is saying I'm scum for bad reasons. Like these in spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 27 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
GB: I metaread Robik as mafia because he isn't posting.
Robik starts posting
GB: Robik is scum because: meta
Why isn't this day over yet with mafia!GB lynched? On January 27 2015 02:35 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Vote Palmar with me Robik. Quick, let's hammer him before he gets back. I like Palmar...not for anything he's said or done, but because he made a string of posts atop the previous page that seemed townie to me. Plus, GB is pretty damn confirmed scum, as well as a bunch of other things that I'll get banned if I say, so like: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mMGYCT9.jpg) On January 27 2015 03:06 IAmRobik wrote:
literally every posts of GBs today that I've read has been "sleep brb"..."showering brb"..."gym brb"..."beach brb" And the ellipses is "robik is mafia cause meta" On January 27 2015 07:30 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:Pop quiz time. Who can name something of relevance that Onegu has done this game?The answer key is below, please don't peek until you've guessed. + Show Spoiler + Actually, would lynch this guy too. HOLY SHIT. I JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY. So GB and Onegu have both essentially done what Ritoky did in the previous game we played. GB is making lists with little substance. I didn't read all of Onegu's posts, but I remember one where he calls me town for being scummy. THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT WORDS THAT RITOKY USED IN THAT GAME IN HIS LIST POST: Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:
note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted
koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile
gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile
*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*
artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile
lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile
marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile
^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^
*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*
thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile
palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile
damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile
*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*
SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile
vivax - no post
*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*
ritoky - town jesus
drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile
eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile
*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*
superbia - no post Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 14:22 Onegu wrote:
Ok GB is town mafia isn't going to post notes like that.
Toad is being thread mayor town for now.
Robik also most likely town, stupid for scum to come in and drop a huge dump in thread.
Eden no idea I can't read drunk people with a buzz myself.
Liancort mentions me and palmar but not VE. That's fairly suspicious to me.
The chick hasn't posted much worthwhile either, but that face palm was hella funny.
Palmar VE I miss you ok that is all I can think of for now
Goodnight Bolded are the reads on me. Both of them end up calling me town because they know I'm town but do so after saying that I'm scummy. Also, GB's post looks mighty similar to Ritoky's, where he forces himself to include/"read" everyone. Show nested quote +On January 26 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:GB's 1st Mindnotes (disclaimer: this is something new I'm trying to keep track of my thoughts) 1. IAmRobik + Show Spoiler +2. Onegu + Show Spoiler + I don't like this post + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=6#102 because it just seems that he just posted to comment on something without having clear intention to discover alignments. Potentially scum. I also don't like this post of his + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#127 because he just says to me that the vote is horrible and that the opening is null. See, he is just commenting: he doesn't say why that post can come from both alignments, he doesn't try to understand my reasoning why reading Toad as scum and he doesn't have any conclusion on my attitude. He just... comments. Again, Onegu just comments with a single "lol" + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#139 . This is bad. 3. GlowingBear + Show Spoiler +4. Eden1892 + Show Spoiler + Too jokey for like 4 pages long. Could be scum. 5. liancourt + Show Spoiler +EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS ABOUT TOAD'S ENTRANCE + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=8#143 . Probably town. 6. Palmar + Show Spoiler +7. VisceraEyes + Show Spoiler +8. Toadesstern + Show Spoiler +I hated his entrance + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#95 because it's a lot of fluff with him saying that he shouldn't be lynched. Directly scummy because he arguing asking to not be lynched day1. Indirectly townie because "would scum be this obvious?". But then, he wrote this post + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#134 which sounded townie to me because (i) he had no reason to townread me for that if he was mafia, he could just go against me, and (ii) he had fair reasons to read me as town (in other words, he is trying to solve alignments by evaluating posts through mafia/town perspectives). Preliminary townpass. 9. Half the Sky + Show Spoiler + I hate this post + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#98 because Toads entrance was really scummy and giving a townread because someone is having fun can never be a reason to townread someone. Just look at Artanis play at Imperial, completely relaxed, and any Slam's scumgame. Felt like possible mafia not knowing how to interpret an entrance and saying it looks townie because her view is already tainted by her perfect information. INCONSISTENCY ALERT!!!! Say everyone but lian is leaning town here + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#140 but still haven't tried to figure out lian's alignment by pushing him yet. BUT thinks my entrance is horrible and puts suspicions on me here + Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#125 Where did those suspicions go? Weird. Townreads so far: Toadsteem
liancourtPossible scums (in order): Eden
HTS
Onegu Also interesting that he spoils it. It might be confirmation bias, but I think that he expects no one to read it, which is why he spoils it. Like, who the fuck is actually gonna open 9 spoils. I opened the first one, saw his read on me, laughed to myself and then moved on. On January 27 2015 23:56 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 23:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Both Toad and GB are picking on Onegu, the easy lynch. Toad is driving that push...hmmm. GB took him out of context. Hmmm. yes...onegu is only mafia if GB isn't. On January 28 2015 01:28 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 01:23 GlowingBear wrote:On January 28 2015 01:21 Half the Sky wrote:On January 27 2015 23:32 Palmar wrote:
toad and glowingbear, you can just concede now, if you want to. GlowingBear, you realise I'm not the only one scumreading you, right? Oh wait, is that a scum I see giving up? Yeah, that is a scum giving up. Gg well played Whoop whoop! Throw another notch on my bedpost (i don't keep them for sexual conquest, just for mafia that I've fucked On January 28 2015 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Were you making them big plays GB with that self-vote? Was that your grandiose plan this whole time? You're a fucking genius!!!!
Oh wait, nope, you're just mafia who got scared about getting banned for playing against win-con. On January 28 2015 03:31 IAmRobik wrote:
He has LITERALLY claimed mafia. What the fuck are you guys doing?
I didn't even mention his epiphany bullshit of me and onegu being mafia together then in there next page of his filter saying that onegu is mafia if I'm not.
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On January 31 2015 00:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Palmar
....that did make me feel a little better.
I can get behind that lynch.
##Vote: Palmar
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On January 31 2015 00:44 IAmRobik wrote:I was the cop, and you tried to lynch me. You spent the majority of the last day I was alive sucking off DP who thought I was fake. Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 22:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Last game we've played together I gave him a town pass day 1. I TOWNREAD YOU. Show nested quote +On January 30 2015 22:14 GlowingBear wrote:And I am one of the most prolific players in TL. I literally peed myself a little when I read this.
I'm not arguing with you anymore, Robik. You're a douche.
I like that you literally peed your pants. A condition like that suits you well.
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On January 31 2015 01:21 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm definitely not voting WITH GB...
Why HTS? Just WHY?
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Robik makes a wrong case on me, posts it, but never tries to get people voting me, specially when Palmar is repeatedly saying to lunch toad instead.
IF YOU HAVE THAT STRONG SCUMREAD ON ME YOU HAD TO FIGHT PALMAR, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU DIRECTLY ADDRESSED PALMAR AND ASK HIM TO LYNCH ME?
GAWD I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS
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On January 31 2015 01:26 Half the Sky wrote:
You and Lian are my two top scumreads.
Clearly you aren't reading the thread.
Vote me then.
Convince the others.
Why saying it like this and bringing no good reason to the table?
That's so ridiculous HTS
ARGH
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Dude those were TWO QUOTES.
TWO QUOTES.
SHOW ME ANY EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO BRINGING ATTENTION TO YOUR LATE CASE ON ME.
PALMAR SAYS WHARRGARBL LYNCH TOAD
WHAT DO YOU DO?
KEEP SILENT.
YOU DON'T SAY "HEY LOOK AT MY CASE AND GIVE THOUGHTS"
ARGH
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On January 31 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote:
GB do you consider me town?
No, I consider you probably scum
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Palmar, you were too certain on toad to be this damn wrong.
I remember you saying that you unvoted when toad voted me, but now that he flipped town, it's meaningless
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ROBIK.
Let's consider, for a moment, that we are both town.
Who are scum?
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On January 31 2015 01:41 Palmar wrote:
It's just much easier to get people to do what you want when you act like you've got it all figured out.
I remember my scum games well 
Now, who are the scum team?
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What about the second one, Robik?
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On January 31 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
What about the second one, Robik? Anyone can be with palmar. If I had to rank the order of who is with palmar it would look something like: lian > you > me > HTS > VE ....i'm missing someone but i don't remember who it is
This is bizarre. Why even putting you on the list?
By the way, how can you consider me as mafia with palmar while I'm voting palmar and after I called him out a lot in day1?
I don't like associative reads, but the thing is that you're scumreading me for something you are actually doing. Why?
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On January 31 2015 06:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Like, GB, even when I act civil and answer your fucking pointless questions, you don't even care nor do you followup or do anything. Even if you're town, I'm gonna feel 0 guilty for SRing you all game and getting your lynched
Lol I've just did it.
Sorry if I'm not 24/7 looking at the thread.
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On January 31 2015 06:31 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:On January 31 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:On January 31 2015 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
What about the second one, Robik? Anyone can be with palmar. If I had to rank the order of who is with palmar it would look something like: lian > you > me > HTS > VE ....i'm missing someone but i don't remember who it is This is bizarre. Why even putting you on the list? By the way, how can you consider me as mafia with palmar while I'm voting palmar and after I called him out a lot in day1? I don't like associative reads, but the thing is that you're scumreading me for something you are actually doing. Why? Because I'm a realist and palmar and i haven't had any interactions that couldn't be maf/maf, but i put myself lower than you because i'm not mafia. The reason you're on the list is because I definitely considered at times that you two could have been executing a play where you fake martyr to bring it to 3 votes, he votes you to make it 4 and then you unvote to make it 3 and then decide to TR each other later on based off of a really poor explanation for how you were making a "play" and then you "caught him" and then that gets blown out the window. The reason why HTS is on that list above VE even though I TR HTS more than VE is because I just don't see VE/Plammar interaction being maf/maf. Do you disagree with my analysis anywhere?
Yes. If you're town, the fact that you're town is the most explicit fact that your interactions with palmar shouldn't be mafia/mafia.
You can't see things through an impartial POV when you're in the game. When I ask you things, I want your perspective, only, and not a fabricated impartial POV.
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Also, I have problems with your Onegu reads. If you realise, I haven't been talking about him anymore. Why do you believe in the WIFOM mafia great plan between me and palmar, but does not believe me and Onegu could be mafia together?
Easiest thing for scum to do is to scumread his scum partner in the beginning of the game and completely forget him.
Also, you townreading him over my interaction with him, but having no good idea about his filters and eve forgetting he is in the game seems odd.
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On January 31 2015 06:48 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:On January 31 2015 06:31 IAmRobik wrote:On January 31 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:On January 31 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:On January 31 2015 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
What about the second one, Robik? Anyone can be with palmar. If I had to rank the order of who is with palmar it would look something like: lian > you > me > HTS > VE ....i'm missing someone but i don't remember who it is This is bizarre. Why even putting you on the list? By the way, how can you consider me as mafia with palmar while I'm voting palmar and after I called him out a lot in day1? I don't like associative reads, but the thing is that you're scumreading me for something you are actually doing. Why? Because I'm a realist and palmar and i haven't had any interactions that couldn't be maf/maf, but i put myself lower than you because i'm not mafia. The reason you're on the list is because I definitely considered at times that you two could have been executing a play where you fake martyr to bring it to 3 votes, he votes you to make it 4 and then you unvote to make it 3 and then decide to TR each other later on based off of a really poor explanation for how you were making a "play" and then you "caught him" and then that gets blown out the window. The reason why HTS is on that list above VE even though I TR HTS more than VE is because I just don't see VE/Plammar interaction being maf/maf. Do you disagree with my analysis anywhere? Yes. If you're town, the fact that you're town is the most explicit fact that your interactions with palmar shouldn't be mafia/mafia. You can't see things through an impartial POV when you're in the game. When I ask you things, I want your perspective, only, and not a fabricated impartial POV. So take my name out of that list if you want. I think that HTS is the towniest person in the game, but that doesn't mean that I'm not gonna include her in the list and if i'm looking at it objectively from my perspective, i think that if palmar is mafia, she's more likely to be mafia than VE, even though I think that HTS is town.
I can understand this, Robik. I'm just saying that I want your perspective only. Not an objective view of the game.
I'll repeat the question and I want your view only ok?
Considering I'm not town:
Who is the scum team?
How me being town changes things?
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I mean, considering I'm town*
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Ok.
Now, supposing I'm mafia: what do you're of me voting palmar?
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