|
On January 29 2015 05:34 Half the Sky wrote:
I was however, unsatisfied with Lian's latest post. A bunch of theoreticals without evaluating content in the game. I can see why someone might think it's a good post because Lian is telling us to evalute X and Y on different types of criteria, but I'm pretty sure Eden at least was trying to examine the possibility of Onegu being scum or not being scum based on the decision to hammer or not hammer GB at least 10 pages prior to him posting that and when he couldn't, VE was questioning the validity of Onegu's post for at least a while.
GB and Onegu ALREADY have been getting evaluated on other criteria aside from the potential hammer incident. So, unless I'm reading it wrong, this is why Lian's latest post strikes me as him saying something just to say something. It's already been touched on, although not directly.
Thank you. I have no idea why people who weren't reading him town before thought his last post made him town. He elaborated a little bit on things he had already said, but it still didn't go into enough detail to advance the discussion. It's the same argument that I engaged 2 days ago where he just about says "you can't use heuristics because they're assumptions which can be wrong."
And I'm not saying it was a suspicious post per se, just that it was more of the same, and that it's weird to me that people felt differently about it compared to his previous posts.
|
As for what we're doing, I owe Robik. I respect his skills enough to go give his case on GB a read. Maybe we can go there and see what happens.
I'm still ultimately okay with lynching liancourt. And I don't think Palmar and Toad can be mafia together, and I'm not really satisfied with Toad's post either, for reasons I'll get back to digging into later.
Palmar have you reposted your Toad case in the last few hours? I'll go read that too.
|
Eden, since you appear to be in thread, what do you think of Robik's positioning of GB?
He's hyper-focused on GB, but GB hasn't been all contributory aside from the exchange with Palmar. Robik also contends GB's read on him is not particularly progressive/not able to be followed easily.
My issue is that GB is pushing Robik when he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting lynched.
GB is not priority one for me but it makes me wonder.
|
Ah, you ninjaed me. Great minds think alike.
|
|
|
Robik bro, please disable your caps lock button for all time. I'm not saying that just to shit on you either. This is a great post that I literally completely ignored in your filter because I was scrolling through it on my phone earlier and saw capslock every time I read and just got irritated by the yelling and stopped reading.
Robik has a pretty good argument for GB's read on him being fabricated. It kinda reminds me of my argument on liancourt initially except it's a better example.
I still kinda like Toad as a lynch, so I want to finish reading things related to him before I put a vote down since we're close to the consolidation phase. But I'm thinking my vote will end up on GB now.
|
Never mind, the word toad shows up in Palmar's filter literally 99 times as of this post. I'm not ctrl-f through that shit. Fuck you Palmar.
##VOTE: GlowingBear
|
Untouchable Votecount
liancourt (3): Toadesstern, Onegu, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Eden1892, Half the Sky, Toadesstern, Half the Sky
Toadesstern (2): GlowingBear, liancourt, Palmar, Palmar, GlowingBear, Eden1892, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (2): Half the Sky, IAmRobik, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Palmar, Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, Eden1892
Onegu (1): Eden1892, liancourt
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Eden1892, GlowingBear, Eden1892, Half the Sky
IAmRobik (0): GlowingBear, Palmar, GlowingBear
Eden1892 (0): liancourt
Not voted (1): VisceraEyes
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.
|
2h15m...well I hope people didn't AFK vote.
I'm going to be in here until EoD, ocassionally in and out of thread.
Really wish more people were here for consolidation, though it is still early for the Americans. Damn.
|
On January 29 2015 05:58 Trfel wrote:
Untouchable Votecount
liancourt (3): Toadesstern, Onegu, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Eden1892, Half the Sky, Toadesstern, Half the Sky
Toadesstern (2): GlowingBear, liancourt, Palmar, Palmar, GlowingBear, Eden1892, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (2): Half the Sky, IAmRobik, VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Palmar, Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, Eden1892
Onegu (1): Eden1892, liancourt
Palmar (0): VisceraEyes, GlowingBear, Eden1892, GlowingBear, Eden1892, Half the Sky
IAmRobik (0): GlowingBear, Palmar, GlowingBear
Eden1892 (0): liancourt
Not voted (1): VisceraEyes
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch.
Bolded red = People I'm okay lynching today.
Bolded without color = People who aren't in my town pile and who merit further observation.
Bolded green = People I'm not okay lynching.
Bolded blue = 100% town to me.
I'm going to post this so I can see the colors because I'm a visual learner.
|
On January 29 2015 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik has a pretty good argument for GB's read on him being fabricated. It kinda reminds me of my argument on liancourt initially except it's a better example.
I still kinda like Toad as a lynch, so I want to finish reading things related to him before I put a vote down since we're close to the consolidation phase. But I'm thinking my vote will end up on GB now.
Well we were asking GB for an explanation of his play for how long? I think that was the post that made people (myself included) reconsider his lynch. Could it have been contrived? I know you have him props for it, so...
Which Robik said we were all mistaken for.
I'm going to read that exchange again.
I hope Lian also shows up soon.
A lot of us have similar lynch lists, but if this day ends in a no-lynch I'm not going to be happy.
|
First thought is that it bothers me that one of the people I'm cool with lynching is literally only being voted for by either other people I'm cool with lynching or people I'm not sure about.
Second thought is that it bothers me that I'm this far into d1 and only have 2 townreads outside of myself.
Third thought is that the guy who's off doing his own thing is usually mafia.
Lemme try to put this together. If the heuristic I just cited is accurate here then liancourt is mafia. Toad's vote was forced due to self-defense even if he didn't acknowledge it at the time, so liancourt flipping mafia doesn't invalidate Toad being mafia. If liancourt is mafia then I think Onegu has to be town for pushing it so hard for so long.
Meh this didn't actually go anywhere cool. Sigh.
GB kinda counts as doing his own thing by tunneling Robik for dumb reasons and not really trying to convince people to lynch him right?
Think I'm gonna stick with the Bear on this one. Bear and lian are the best lynches today from what I can see, and if nothing else it'll force Robik to focus his energies on other people and help me solve this game. Plus I'm not dealing with another 4 days of him sulking and raging at me for not lynching Bear today. 
|
Palmar, I really don't think Toad is the lynch today. Will you please move off of him and onto GB?
|
HTS, we'll consolidate, don't worry.
Not sure what to make of that trap at this point tbh. Like my gut says that it's just not something mafia does, but my brain says there's nothing stopping them from doing it, and I think Robik has a really good point about the (non-)progression of GB's read on Robik specifically and his reads in general.
|
Palmar and myself would make 4. But even if Palmar is town, he's even more tunnelled on Toad than I was on GB.
Liancourt, who I am certain is scum, had GB as #2 on his lynch list....but his vote is parked on Onegu atm.
|
Actually you should stay on liancourt for now, just be ready to maybe move before EOD.
|
Mainly cause I don't want you and Palmar flipping to make 4 on GB and then liancourt showing up and yolovoting GB
|
On January 29 2015 06:32 Eden1892 wrote:
Not sure what to make of that trap at this point tbh. Like my gut says that it's just not something mafia does, but my brain says there's nothing stopping them from doing it, and I think Robik has a really good point about the (non-)progression of GB's read on Robik specifically and his reads in general.
I'm not disputing you. At first glance, it just seems WIFOM when you consider both Palmar and GB were both saying their explanations were traps, with GB claiming to trap Palmar, and Palmar claiming to trap Toad.
I've never laid a trap like that in a majority instant lynch game. So I'm not sure what to make of it, or even if I should.
Because if you take that out, you still have my case, you still have Robik's arguments and you still have GB's relative lurkiness, you still have VE's argument on the dropping of the note dumps or however he put it.
|
I almost want to make Palmar really mad by trying to yolowagon VisceraEyes. Nothing pisses off Palmar and puts him in tryhard solve-the-game mode like lynching his top town d1, and I've gotten this vague feeling that he's mafia for a while now.
|
On January 29 2015 06:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Mainly cause I don't want you and Palmar flipping to make 4 on GB and then liancourt showing up and yolovoting GB
Yea, this is what is an issue, with GB being #2 on his lynch list.
VE also has yet to vote. If VE hammers it's a different story.
I'll stay on Lian.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
