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On January 28 2015 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Were you making them big plays GB with that self-vote? Was that your grandiose plan this whole time? You're a fucking genius!!!!
Oh wait, nope, you're just mafia who got scared about getting banned for playing against win-con.
Wow. That's your explanation? Lol
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Like I would kill you even if I was a cop with a green check on you
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On January 28 2015 01:44 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Yes you are palmar.
You would never jump this easily on a guy who is voting himself knowing that there are only 2 scums in the game and survivability is crucial, SPECIALLY when it's instant majority.
Too risky move for a mafia to do in instant majority. You know that. I would. I hate martyrs.
That's why you voted the Chyz in imperial right?
Oh you didn't.
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Palmar, getting behind the martyr policy is the easiest way to avoid responsibility.
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On January 28 2015 01:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2015 01:44 Palmar wrote:On January 28 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Yes you are palmar.
You would never jump this easily on a guy who is voting himself knowing that there are only 2 scums in the game and survivability is crucial, SPECIALLY when it's instant majority.
Too risky move for a mafia to do in instant majority. You know that. I would. I hate martyrs. That's why you voted the Chyz in imperial right? Oh you didn't.
Irrelevant
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On January 27 2015 23:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 18:22 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 18:03 Palmar wrote:
Eden is town
So this leaves:
GB
lian
Toad
Onegu
But then again I'm bad and idk.
The best argument against GB is that he attempted to create a framework for his thought process and didn't really follow it through. It is very tempting to create a framework for yourself when you're mafia "I am only going to read 2 people today", "I am going to do list posts and update them", because it makes posting easier, you just follow whichever formula you have supplied and no one suspects a thing! simple, right?
I can't remember why I think Toad is maybe mafia. But he really could be. The other two I haven't read that much. if you take out my name from that list those other three have been the ones I want to lynch every since the last... 24 hours? ... what does that tell us about what you should be thinking about me? This post is complete horseshit Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 15:54 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 14:57 Half the Sky wrote:Sanity please. Good morning. Took about 10m to skim through. Will post my initial impressions before I jet for work. I'll look a little harder into Liancourt's posting, but I have some thoughts and some criticisms. This post from Lian is making me reconsider a scum read on him. Here's why: On January 27 2015 13:51 liancourt wrote:
@toad
I know you're trying to be the thread mayor and all, but I really expected HF/marv/koshi level play from you, but I'm somewhat disappointed...maybe I had high expectations of you or maybe you're holding back for some reason. It's like you're playing politics and moderating everything instead of pointing fingers and pushing things hard.
How many scumreads does Toad have right now? From what I can tell, zero. This part of Lian's post is making me think that what if a (potential) mafia Toad could cruise on being so widely townread? It doesn't look likely at this point, but the fact that it made me think, and it shows that Lian has made some broad observation of a player relative to the entire game, despite Toad himself only having a three page filter. I took a look at Toad's filter, and he seems to be in that information gathering/analysing phase of scumhunting, but if I don't see him pushing something/someone soon, I might just start to wonder. His first vote was on Liancourt on what I believed to be a pressure vote and then he unvoted. Don't get me wrong, I'm still reading Toad as town, but this was a very provocative post by Lian and makes me think he's town for this observation. At the very least, I might actually move him upwards from my scumpile. I'm one of the guys that figures out who's town and lynches into whoever is left, starting with the guy my stomach likes the least as I'm usually incredibly confident in my townreads. You're probably not going to see me make long cases about people being mafia. That mostly goes out to you and lian who said he expected me to be someone like Marv/HF... I even told you that I'm the kind of guy that just looks cute and everyone wants to cuddle :3 That being said, a walkthrough of my thoughts lately would be: We lynch into Eden / Lian / Onegu, preferably Lian or Onegu at the point of when I made my general list. Robik if we havn't won by then. Right now I'm fairly confident that I don't want to touch Eden at all, he has been quite impressive the last 24~30 hours or so and like I already said I agree with that one point on GB you did, so he dropped in my list. So for right now it's between Onegu and Lian, leaning towards Onegu. GB for me is an option I'd be willing to discuss but that to me has the same value as a policy lynch because a potential mislynch on GB would be a disaster. Meaning if that guy ends up town we had the easiest votedump for mafia ever for d1. Onegu has that under-the-radar but not just completly afk feel to him I don't like. Lian I have to reread some because people apparently think he got super towny in the last couple hours? I'd also like to add Palmar to the list because he still hasn't done shit at all but let's be honest here, he knows me good enough to know that I'd only be pressuring and asking people to give him one more day if push comes to shove. I've seen him behave exactly like this as town multiple times (I think? at least once), which doesn't make him town but I'd try to avoid that lynch d1. Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts. I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now... I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time. That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone. the more I think about that one point, the more I like it actually. It is clearly showing mafia agenda, more so than any other case done so far, including my own reads that are all based on how people are interacting here because d1 is usually really hard to get some mafia agenda when noone has flipped yet. I'd be voting him if I didn't want to make sure we get more time right now. There's still the lingering fear that he's bad and the easy mislynch but it makes me feel way better about this. Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 08:00 Toadesstern wrote:On January 27 2015 07:51 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - what also struck me was people in this thread townreading GB simply because he seemed to be putting in the effort for his notetaking posts. I'm mostly still townreading him for the vote on me that had a townish confidence to it to not give a fuck About your case. I actually quite like it and am considering GB a null at best right now... I don't care so much about your first point about him and your last point, but the second one about Onegu just commenting on the vote without trying to figure anything out when indeed he was confused and asked about wether it's a troll / mayor / lynch vote at just that time. That could very well be painting someone red rather than trying to read someone. Show nested quote +On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.
Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest. In fact I am much more sure on Toad being mafia than GB. But lynching both might be fine. The point here is Toad is waffling so hard on GB that it's almost painful
are you fucking for real? I even explained it once more when Eden asked about it and said that's not what it I mean...
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Cb tell me why toad is mafia
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whatever... Palmar apparently went crazy and a bunch of people too. Lynch down the list:
Ongegu
Lian
GB
and we win.
##vote GlowingBear
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What are you even talking about
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On January 28 2015 01:53 Toadesstern wrote:
whatever... Palmar apparently went crazy and a bunch of people too. Lynch down the list:
Ongegu
Lian
GB
and we win.
##vote GlowingBear
Lol. Gg.
One between Palmar and Toad is mafia.
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On January 28 2015 01:56 Palmar wrote:
Who else went crazy?
everyone who suddendly went like "WOA WOA REREAD TOAD AND I TOTALLY SEE IT AFTER YOU IGNORED THAT ONE POST WHERE TOAD TOLD EDEN HOW TO READ HIS RANTS".
everyone's like that without even having mentioned what they think... hts is still town I feel, same as you. Robik could be mafia riding whatever is popular with people that say alot.
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On January 28 2015 01:59 Toadesstern wrote:everyone who suddendly went like "WOA WOA REREAD TOAD AND I TOTALLY SEE IT AFTER YOU IGNORED THAT ONE POST WHERE TOAD TOLD EDEN HOW TO READ HIS RANTS". everyone's like that without even having mentioned what they think... hts is still town I feel, same as you. Robik could be mafia riding whatever is popular with people that say alot.
Are you even reading this fucking game? I'M LEADING THIS LYNCH!
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I can't hear you over all the mafia sounds toad 
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Argh too many people looking scummy.
Jeez...
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just make sure to lynch down my list afterwards and that'll be fine
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On January 28 2015 02:03 Toadesstern wrote:
just make sure to lynch down my list afterwards and that'll be fine
Look mama more martyrs
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EPT
