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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 18:04 GMT
#465
On January 27 2015 03:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 03:01 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 27 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote:
Proud native inhabitants of America for more than a millennia.
[image loading]

You're probably from the right part of the map, you sneaky European

If that were so the map wouldn't make much sense to back up my claim would it?

You lied about one thing, you can certain lie about something else
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 18:06 GMT
#468
literally every posts of GBs today that I've read has been "sleep brb"..."showering brb"..."gym brb"..."beach brb" And the ellipses is "robik is mafia cause meta"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 19:22 GMT
#504
<3

On January 27 2015 04:05 Eden1892 wrote:
anyway we should kill liancourt because his meta argument on me is BS and he hasn't issued a retraction yet


On January 27 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:
GB: I metaread Robik as mafia because he isn't posting.

Robik starts posting

GB: Robik is scum because: meta


Why isn't this day over yet with mafia!GB lynched?




Eden = town ... not for the above post, but for quoting his earlier posts
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 19:47 GMT
#515
On January 27 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
All people wanting to lynch Liancourt, I urge you to please wait 3-5h until he wakes up before pushing his lynch. He is unable to defend himself because he's asleep. And we should be lynching GB anyway

Perspective please.

FYP
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 21:04 GMT
#521
On January 27 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Robik, I see from your filter you have townreads on Eden and Palmar, scumreading GB as well.

What are your thoughts on everyone else in the thread?

I don't have any, but I will put everyone who votes GB on my "do not lynch list" for d2
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:11 GMT
#523
On January 27 2015 06:32 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 06:04 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't have any, but I will put everyone who votes GB on my "do not lynch list" for d2


I believe you are experienced enough to realise that scum can take advantage of a townie wagon to vote another townie out (or bus too, but unlikely in this setup).

What if, in the unlikely but still possible event, that GB is town?

Then I won't be NK'd and we'll move on
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:20 GMT
#529
On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.

Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest.

His case on me is that I wasn't posting thus I'm mafia. I started posting. He continues to say I'm mafia for meta reasons, even though I've since broken that meta. Thus he's just making shit up and doesn't have any actual thoughts on analysis. Especially since all he does is talk about me. Additionally, he has made 4 posts today that amount to "i'm going afk be back later," which I find inherently scummy.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:30 GMT
#537
On January 27 2015 07:18 Eden1892 wrote:
Pop quiz time.
Who can name something of relevance that Onegu has done this game?

The answer key is below, please don't peek until you've guessed.
+ Show Spoiler +
Nothing


Actually, would lynch this guy too.

HOLY SHIT. I JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY.

So GB and Onegu have both essentially done what Ritoky did in the previous game we played.

GB is making lists with little substance.
I didn't read all of Onegu's posts, but I remember one where he calls me town for being scummy. THIS IS LITERALLY THE EXACT WORDS THAT RITOKY USED IN THAT GAME IN HIS LIST POST:


On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:
finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:

note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted

koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile

gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile

*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*

artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile

lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile

marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile

^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^

*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*

thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile

palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile

damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile

*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*

SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile

vivax - no post

*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*

ritoky - town jesus

drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile

eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile

*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*

superbia - no post


On January 26 2015 14:22 Onegu wrote:
Ok GB is town mafia isn't going to post notes like that.

Toad is being thread mayor town for now.

Robik also most likely town, stupid for scum to come in and drop a huge dump in thread.

Eden no idea I can't read drunk people with a buzz myself.

Liancort mentions me and palmar but not VE. That's fairly suspicious to me.

The chick hasn't posted much worthwhile either, but that face palm was hella funny.

Palmar VE I miss you ok that is all I can think of for now

Goodnight


Bolded are the reads on me. Both of them end up calling me town because they know I'm town but do so after saying that I'm scummy.

Also, GB's post looks mighty similar to Ritoky's, where he forces himself to include/"read" everyone.

On January 26 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:
GB's 1st Mindnotes

(disclaimer: this is something new I'm trying to keep track of my thoughts)

1. IAmRobik
+ Show Spoiler +
Argh


2. Onegu
+ Show Spoiler +
I don't like this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=6#102
because it just seems that he just posted to comment on something without having clear intention to discover alignments. Potentially scum.

I also don't like this post of his + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#127
because he just says to me that the vote is horrible and that the opening is null. See, he is just commenting: he doesn't say why that post can come from both alignments, he doesn't try to understand my reasoning why reading Toad as scum and he doesn't have any conclusion on my attitude. He just... comments.

Again, Onegu just comments with a single "lol" + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#139
. This is bad.


3. GlowingBear
+ Show Spoiler +
Adorable


4. Eden1892
+ Show Spoiler +
Too jokey for like 4 pages long. Could be scum.


5. liancourt
+ Show Spoiler +
EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS ABOUT TOAD'S ENTRANCE + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=8#143
. Probably town.


6. Palmar
+ Show Spoiler +
Playing DotA


7. VisceraEyes
+ Show Spoiler +
Cool beard


8. Toadesstern
+ Show Spoiler +

I hated his entrance + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#95
because it's a lot of fluff with him saying that he shouldn't be lynched. Directly scummy because he arguing asking to not be lynched day1. Indirectly townie because "would scum be this obvious?".

But then, he wrote this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#134
which sounded townie to me because (i) he had no reason to townread me for that if he was mafia, he could just go against me, and (ii) he had fair reasons to read me as town (in other words, he is trying to solve alignments by evaluating posts through mafia/town perspectives). Preliminary townpass.


9. Half the Sky
+ Show Spoiler +
I hate this post + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=5#98
because Toads entrance was really scummy and giving a townread because someone is having fun can never be a reason to townread someone. Just look at Artanis play at Imperial, completely relaxed, and any Slam's scumgame. Felt like possible mafia not knowing how to interpret an entrance and saying it looks townie because her view is already tainted by her perfect information.

INCONSISTENCY ALERT!!!!
Say everyone but lian is leaning town here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#140
but still haven't tried to figure out lian's alignment by pushing him yet. BUT thinks my entrance is horrible and puts suspicions on me here + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475954-hammertime-mafia?page=7#125

Where did those suspicions go? Weird.


Townreads so far:
Toadsteem
liancourt


Possible scums (in order):
Eden
HTS
Onegu


Also interesting that he spoils it. It might be confirmation bias, but I think that he expects no one to read it, which is why he spoils it. Like, who the fuck is actually gonna open 9 spoils. I opened the first one, saw his read on me, laughed to myself and then moved on.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:31 GMT
#538
On January 27 2015 07:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.

Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest.

His case on me is that I wasn't posting thus I'm mafia. I started posting. He continues to say I'm mafia for meta reasons, even though I've since broken that meta. Thus he's just making shit up and doesn't have any actual thoughts on analysis. Especially since all he does is talk about me. Additionally, he has made 4 posts today that amount to "i'm going afk be back later," which I find inherently scummy.

first sentence: He is bad
second+third sentence: well... that's him being bad because he told you about it if he really thinks that way
He shouldn't have done that. We'll have to see what he posts in the next couple hours.
fourth+ sentence: he has only made 4 posts ever since (trusting you on this) so it's obvious there's not a lot of actualy thoughts on analysis.

how is "I'm going afk be back later" something inherently scummy?
HTS has said something along those lines multiple times. I don't see you all over her (pun might be intended)
I actually do that a lot as well depending on my mood, as all three alignments.

because he's showing that he's around and caught up and reading, but he's not actually willing to provide any new content or thoughts. His only content or thoughts in between his AFK is that he wants to lynch me. That's not towny
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:35 GMT
#543
On January 27 2015 07:27 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2015 07:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 27 2015 07:15 Toadesstern wrote:
can someone restate the things that make GB mafia that don't boil down to "he's bad"?
I don't care about him being wrong with what he does. I want to see why doing what's wrong is more beneficial for him as mafia than as a townie.

Because I still only see him as the easy mislynch to be honest.

His case on me is that I wasn't posting thus I'm mafia. I started posting. He continues to say I'm mafia for meta reasons, even though I've since broken that meta. Thus he's just making shit up and doesn't have any actual thoughts on analysis. Especially since all he does is talk about me. Additionally, he has made 4 posts today that amount to "i'm going afk be back later," which I find inherently scummy.

first sentence: He is bad
second+third sentence: well... that's him being bad because he told you about it if he really thinks that way
He shouldn't have done that. We'll have to see what he posts in the next couple hours.
fourth+ sentence: he has only made 4 posts ever since (trusting you on this) so it's obvious there's not a lot of actualy thoughts on analysis.

how is "I'm going afk be back later" something inherently scummy?
HTS has said something along those lines multiple times. I don't see you all over her (pun might be intended)
I actually do that a lot as well depending on my mood, as all three alignments.

See the thing is -- the first sentence is probably valid, but a townie recognizes that my posting has changed since he made that statement and he hasn't adjusted his read, which is scummy, not "bad". Well bad too. Plus, he just played a game with me where I was the cop and didn't play d1 because of New Years and became way more active after that and he tried to meta read me as mafia based off of me playing similarly to how i played as the cop, but i couldn't be the cop since there are no roles thus i have to be mafia. DAFUQ KINDA READ IS THAT. Especially since I was town and ended up with a 30+ page filter anyway, 3rd highest in the game, having lived 2 days shorter than total game time.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:38 GMT
#547
THIS POST IS FOR PALMAR'S EYES ONLY:

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you think it's scummier or townier for people to get frustrated with you? (HTS/Toad)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:43 GMT
#556
On January 27 2015 07:41 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik

I cheated on you.
I read the post meant for Palmar.
Can I answer it or is a menage-a-trois not your thing right now

+ Show Spoiler +
i want plammmar to answer because I want to see if he's doing it intentionally to get reads on people, if he's doing it because he's bored town, or if he's doing it because he didn't want to roll mafia.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:44 GMT
#557
On January 27 2015 07:43 Palmar wrote:
@My friend Robik.

I do not think there is a single simple answer to that question??? ::::

You can give me two complicated answers then.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:48 GMT
#562
For PLammmmmar's eyes only:

On January 27 2015 07:44 Eden1892 wrote:
only robik gets to read this.
+ Show Spoiler +
ok. i actually didn't have anything worth saying here right now, but secret messages are cool. don't tell plumber that he looks fat in his overalls


+ Show Spoiler +

Read the spoiler inside the quote...eden calls you fat.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:54 GMT
#568
OOOOOOH!

New spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
Do you think HTS's frustration is genuine? Are you bothered by Toad's lack of frustration? Am I still misunderstanding something?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 22:54 GMT
#569
Also, that last 3 post rally was totally forced and done intentionally for me...YOU CAN'T PULL THE WOOL OVER MY EYES PLAMMMMAR
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 23:00 GMT
#573
He was pressuring you to be useful during that VE spat you had. And then I saw this post and that's where I felt he could be frustrated:

On January 27 2015 05:10 Toadesstern wrote:
I'd like to hear that read from Palmar. It's already "tonight"

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 23:01 GMT
#574
Specifically the "It's already 'tonight'" part
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 26 2015 23:13 GMT
#576
On January 27 2015 08:08 Toadesstern wrote:
it was curiosity, not frustration but I don't see how that's important

THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOUR TOAD
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 27 2015 00:45 GMT
#588
I don't wanna read VE because it bothers me that he is TRing me. We never get along as T/T. I gave my read on Onegu. I don't have reads on other people, but have offered free town reads for people voting for GB. So you can be town too. I think...if you're voting GB still
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