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Pros - If hes mafia he will concede Cons - None | ||
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On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote: I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game. Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool. And lynching marv is fun Hes just as likely to be mafia as anyone in this game... and hes like the only one im sure that will give up as mafia day 1 and will be useful as town. I played with marv in two games both as mafia. Game 1 town got marv to concede game 2 town ignored marv and he won da game. Lets not ignore marv | ||
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Hts its so no secret that marv doesint want to play scum. His last 3 games all mafia. In the first two he gave up on day 1. His most recent one being a 600 page marathon. After that game is over theres no way hes gonna try if he rolled mafia again. So thats why we all vote marv and see what happens. | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:23 Holyflare wrote: you know what's better than not voting marv and seeing what happens? voting other people and seeing what happens and getting rid of free marv later! I tried that strategy It didnt work out | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:37 liancourt wrote: Did sl even post? Hi. I dont always play good but how does that make me scum? I try to carry your afkness. In carol I did in that game everyone afked I didnt. Is this a policy lynch push im confused. | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:57 liancourt wrote: The votes on marv and oats are hilarious i expect them to move to sl are you seriousssss? | ||
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On January 20 2015 08:35 liancourt wrote: I didnt say i have scumread lol You should really read those games yourself then you ll understand why i m doing this for the good of town. why do you shit talk my play now? Why not after the game like I shit talked you for afk two games straight. Why did you save this ammo for now its super scummy. Btw I carried you to victory in carol of the bells. Your reads were good but you afked and didnt help town untill me and others finally convinced them. I believe that game was nominated for best town performance and I was a big part of that. | ||
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On January 20 2015 09:05 liancourt wrote: Hilarious because town never learns. Sl is a better day 1 lynch than either of them. I dont disagree especially with marv. But the thing is if marv is lynched its because hes mafia!. Your basically proposing to rng lynch me right now. | ||
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On January 20 2015 09:13 liancourt wrote: It sounds like you actually want to lynch sl if i gave u reasons outside of this game Hes not asking for reasons in this game hes asking for reasons period. Remember how you were like I need to explain my ideas better? Ive never played with this guy before and your like "vote sl because" | ||
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On January 20 2015 20:11 marvellosity wrote: I think it's fascinating how sicklucker jumps on the marvtrain right at the start. And yet calls lian "super scummy" for his policy lynch attempt on him. Interesting. your not a policy lynch tho. Your a policy pressure. Theres a big difference in my mind. | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:20 marvellosity wrote: I explained earlier, he's trying to replicate his retard town meta. Despite the fact he's not playing this game anything like how he plays town. As I explained already. I thought that last game when he was pushing confirmed towns for no reason. Hes probably town here too I dont see any good reasons otherwise | ||
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When I unvote you its when im sure your town and never have to worry about you. I dont like how lians getting a free pass here when hes trying to policy lynch a player better then kush. I cant remember. | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:34 batsnacks wrote: Does anyone agree with vivax? Would anyone care if I said I agreed with him and will probably sheep him? I agree that hes town. I dont think blindly following him is ever a great idea use your own head | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote: what made you think lian was getting a free pass? No one talked about him | ||
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Like no way he trys this hard as scum ever ill clear him on this alone. 3 games straight mafia. Game 1 and two palmer gets him to concede. Game 3 600 FREAKIN PAGES | ||
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On January 20 2015 22:56 Holyflare wrote: I'll make it easy for people - SL knows people's alignments and then makes posts to appear like he's "figured them out". Thats not true at all. I just went in with a plan. If marv trys I unvote him. If not hes mafia its a very very easy way to figure out marvs alignment and half the game did it. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:00 marvellosity wrote: Note how you invited sl to interact with you re: lian, and he sidestepped and chose not to. I was in a dota game here now! and I did interact wth him but you failed to mention that. Anyways no ones commented on lian the entire game pretty much that was my point | ||
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if you knew the meta you would know he wont really try that hard... | ||
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Ksc hes me not "sidestepping" you. I would have talked more but I was doing something im here now | ||
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Me and lian were the biggest contributers to the carol of the bells game alone with like hts. ( whos not doing much) Its weird for lian to suggest im not capable of helping town when I was the second most person who wanted to lynch Hf in that game and we solved it. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:28 KelsierSC wrote: what do you think about his "well we know vivax is town" read. and vivax immediately town reading him for this afterwards? i think vivax agreed with me that marvs trying too hard to be scum. I think if someone didnt reach this conclusion there hella bad | ||
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On January 20 2015 21:29 sicklucker wrote: I think vivax is bleeding town and playing the same as last game. That doesint mean hes right here tho... On January 20 2015 21:30 sicklucker wrote: I thought that last game when he was pushing confirmed towns for no reason. Hes probably town here too I dont see any good reasons otherwise QUOTE]On January 20 2015 21:39 sicklucker wrote: On January 20 2015 21:34 batsnacks wrote: Does anyone agree with vivax? Would anyone care if I said I agreed with him and will probably sheep him? I agree that hes town. I dont think blindly following him is ever a great idea use your own head[/QUOTE] Like marv I never thought you were mafia. I Just tried to steal palmer strategy from metal and another game of pressuring you day 1 and hope you give up. I want to determine your alignment because thats huge. On January 20 2015 21:20 sicklucker wrote: your not a policy lynch tho. Your a policy pressure. Theres a big difference in my mind. | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:47 Holyflare wrote: sl you've completely sidestepped about 3 things i've talked about by the way... AGAIN what? No I didnt explain | ||
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On January 20 2015 23:52 Vivax wrote: I just asked SL for a read on bats and he dodged the question. No im making a list post you baddies. I dont know whats going on the the most productive thing is to give my reads. Holyflare - No strong read. Could be either Ive seen him push stupid mislynches as town before Damdred - Had the same idea to presure marv as two town (me and vivax) batsnacks - Not thinking for himself leaning scum liancourt - Policy lynching giving 0 reads and afking. Scum Vivax - Playing identical from are last game I dont think something this wild can be duplicated as mafia. Half the Sky - I read her really well. And she is not being her town so far. But Ive jumped the gun on that before want to see more like asap or lynch. VayneAuthority - Tried to stop a mislynch on him last game lead by liancourt, oats and bats. Lets see his day2 this time. Wile E. Coyote - Who the hell is he? I dont know he uses big words and is burying me so leaning scum. Oatsmaster - being his normal null self. Would not lynch Marvellosity - Obv town never lynch when he mislynches me today KelsierSC - Similiar ideas reading town. | ||
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Marv rolling scum for the 4th time after 600 page game is going to crack. Its the only play a town should make whos been in those games with marv. I forgot a read Sicklucker - Someone whos never been mislynched ever. Will prove hes town using any means necessary and is a really bad day1 lynch. About to die because everyone will sheep hf and marv and not think for themselfs. This will lose the game because when I flip town all the sheeple will do dumb things like kill marv. | ||
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Mspaint. I was mafia and you killed like 3 towns and mafia didnt do anything for the first 5 days. | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:10 Holyflare wrote: vote this guy right now, we've played like 3 games together and most of them I was mafia and the one game I was town he was mafia and shot me n1 for being so right and getting all of the mafia team. What. Didnt you shoot hopeless and mislynch rofl. I remember asking my scum buddys not to kill you because you were so wrong that game but they wanted to out of fear. | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:15 KelsierSC wrote: SL when did you decide that vivax was town? what made you believe that? The whole pushing marv for the hts vote. He was playing too dumb to be scum again. Also trying to figure out his partners already. Hes got his tinfoil hat on ready to go. | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:16 Holyflare wrote: If marv is town and he's pushing you and you said he was town that we should never lynch why am I not town for pushing marv's target before marv even said it? Well its not marvs target then. Its yours. I dont know your motive your the best scum player here | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:18 Holyflare wrote: you know it's funny but you STILL sidestepped the point about lian that i've been trying to get you to talk about for an hour+ Im not sure what that is. Were doing qeustion time go ahead | ||
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I was playing dota with a friend. I have since answered every qeustion ksc has asked me in timely fashion im sure he will vouche for me. I just thought it was super weird that he puts all the blame for that game on me now. Why not after the game was over when we were all talking about it? I see that as scum motivation to bring it up now. Him going afk and being a bad town is something he would do I agree I sapose that was a really bad point I made . Im just really pissed at him. I even openly spite voted him for being afk at lylo. | ||
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am I not playing chaotic now? Thats my town game. Reread my mspaint game. I was so afraid to post day1/day2 (which im clearly not here) | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:35 Damdred wrote: Just stop self-metaing and show that you are town give reads and answer all the questions people think you dodge. hi.. Im here answering questions giving reads. | ||
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On January 21 2015 00:41 KelsierSC wrote: SL if we weren't looking at you, name 2 people we should be looking at right now Bats Hts Lian | ||
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Ill use any strategy. Self meta can suck my weiner | ||
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On January 20 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote: Greetings everyone! Reading through, I've not played a game with Marv so I'm not familiar as to how he plays as scum. I find it interesting though that when the pressure votes are on, he posts a few things on Artanis' story. (Why?) HF, on VA, I agree with you as to why he is looking bad. However, last game with Vayne, I voted him for being completely useless not helping us solve the game and Batsnacks told me that his D1 meta is basically dicking around and not caring. He was lynched and flipped town. This is a semi lie. She voted va to save herself im pretty sure. She was checked out of this game focusing on here other game where she was mafia and I was her coach. So hts mafia game is pretty passive and trying to be a peacemaker more then a town should. Heres her defending like 5 people in her 1 page filter I already posted one above heres some more. On January 20 2015 06:34 Half the Sky wrote: You could say the same thing on Lian, who also needed to sleep. AFAIK, they are both in Asia time zones. Lian posted ~2h before the game started, but the difference is that Oats actually commented on something relevant in the game and didn't give an explanation. He didn't have to write a novel, just a sentence would have done. Which also begs the question why Vivax wanted to vote Lian. Giving lian and oats excuses. On January 20 2015 06:39 Half the Sky wrote: IMO, this is speculative. I think a judgment is better made on him closer to the end of D1. A Marv vote closer to the end would make sense if the posts on Artanis' story were the only ones he'd done, end of. Defending my pressure on marv On January 20 2015 08:45 Half the Sky wrote: Lian, are you not reading? He started posting on page 5 and through page 8. Defending me after lian said I havent posted although for a good reason  But still a town should want to see pressure.On January 20 2015 22:26 Half the Sky wrote: Went through Vivax's case, and several of the points are weak. I don't understand the Lian townread and HF scumread, I don't understand what behaviours make HF scum from what I've seen so far. Lian jumped from scumreading SL without an explanation and then a gut read on Geript (now Slam) because he was replacing out. HF wasn't ignoring Marv. I think this appears taken out of context. Even HF said "undecided as of yet." Too many associative reads this early, just isn't good. Defending hf UOTE]On January 20 2015 23:28 Half the Sky wrote: On January 20 2015 23:18 Oatsmaster wrote: so bm. im not convinced on HF, all his posts so far have not been really thought out. Like he comes in and comments on the latest thing. You sure about this, Oats? What did you think about his push on Wile? [/QUOTE] Defending Hf again Its not that her defense points are not good. Its just thats what she does as mafia. Shes also scum reading and pushing vivax as the other half of her filter. Whos like definitely town. | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:37 Vivax wrote: I was really 100 % sure on my Damdred/HF/Marv theory at the moment. Then SL came in and read me town, so I assumed he couldn't possibly be scum. I also posted a lot of other town reads when I was basing all my reads on the theory I was sure of. Alakaslam is in there too but at that point it was just by PoE and he didn't post anything. Good point on Lian, might have to look at him further if SL flips scum. Bats...Just leave him be for now. But he doesn't fit in my theory where SL is scum. And why am I not still town for calling out your obvious town game meta? anyway brb for reals now | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:42 Vivax wrote: As you might ave noticed I'm not reading much of the thread cause right now I'm just awaiting Sl's flip. stop talking like im already dead. | ||
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On January 21 2015 02:26 Alakaslam wrote: Yup, it seems I am entitled to skipping pages 27-32, because why not. It's in my filter which pages I have missed, i wanna speak man Wassup SL is a pretty clear lynch this game, which unfortunately for me is meta wifom. But, from a hosting perspective I know he knows how to self confirm town; he has done the opposite practically. Anyone want me to explain why in the language of CHUPAZI seeing as you fail to comprehend Marv? Actually the allmighty hf and marv have decided im the lynch so its going to happen. I dont feel like people even scumread me outside of them which is good you shouldnt. I havent had enough time to prove im time 6 hhours is not enough for my shennagins. | ||
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In metal you were going to lynch me but I got mod killed. In games where were both town. The first newbie game you scum read me day 1/2 Metal you want to kill me untill I do something stupid that gets me mod killed and auto towned Carol not sure you died day1. we were both the same role and had good reasons to side with each other. Those are the 3 game we were town together | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:00 Vivax wrote: Wait? WHat are you alluding to? THat I try to find all scum at once? If SL flips scum I'm nominating myself for best town 2015. For sheeping? OKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. Like are interactions were so weird. You and marv were having a retarded fight and showing you were both obvious town. I come and interject saying your both towns and to look elsewhere . Your town reading me for this and then marv goes "SL IS MAFIA" then you go "OK SURE" So like screw self meta. Look at mspaint where im scum. Ve/hf/hopeless were all fighting and calling each other mafia. What do I do? I sit back and dont post at all day 1 or even day 2. I dont freakin come out and tell everyone their obvious towns as mafia thats pretty dumb. | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:07 Damdred wrote: I never lynch you because I generally town read you early and it falls off later when we get to poe, if it ever falls off then I regain your towniness. And there is always a better lynch which i'm finding it hard to find a better lynch right now. I dont see you or anyone putting any lynches forward. Did we solve the game already? You know this is a mislynch dandred... And your probably the only one who can stop it | ||
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A safe smurf is available; it is mine- Wile E. Coyote. PM me. abuse this and KadaverBB will ban it and I will know who you are sson So slam replaces into the game wtf? How is it a good idea that slam knows the smurfs identity but no one else does? | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:43 Vivax wrote: Cause if you're scum converting batsnacks would put him in a terrible spot after pushing you. Why would scum want someone thats going to get lynched? Hf is in a great spot if were team mates because he just bussed me to death. I would want him to carry me. Your crazy | ||
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On January 21 2015 03:53 marvellosity wrote: Well, it's just that HtS has this generally kinda waffly style as town, it's almost like scales of indirectness. She's not massively direct and forceful at the best of times. the word is passive aggressive. In her newbie game her first post was some 6 paragraph has to be town post. Thats how you know shes town. I townread her from her first post and never wavered dandred can back me up there. Here shes been mostly one liners thats how you can read her better. | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:02 Holyflare wrote: that's not true at all because she didn't really do that in carol AND YOU STILL FUCKING IGNORED MY STUFF ON YOU AGAIINNNNN SHE WAS A ROLE IN CAROL AND PRETENDING TO BE MAFIA RARWREWGFDGFJLK; | ||
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Im not sure what your even arguing about and thats the truth my only hope is to find scum now. | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:40 Holyflare wrote: You said you are an obvious mafia by the way you just sit back. You didn't sit back really at all. You also quite CLEARLY stated that you weren't a dumb mafia who gives out free town reads over and over again. You literally said this when someone called you out for giving easy town reads. I come along and prove that in fact you DO post easy free town reads all game. From just 1 page of filter I managed to pull out 5 quotes that show you do. You misrepresented your play in order to make people stop scum reading you. No as mafia I have to town read somebody. But I dont want to tow nread EVERYBODY. I remember I gave hopeless a scum read. Ve a town. And you I cant remember but probably a scum. But here im giving both marv and vivax a town read. So ya its different and pretty dumb to clear vivax if im mafia. Like this guy is loco if I was mafia I would want to keep my mislynch options open on this kiddo. | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:46 Holyflare wrote: you had 14 pages of filter.......................................................... Not on day 1 or 2. I made final 3.... 14 pages of filter for me is VERY VERY VERY SMALL. Thats like 2 pages per day | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:56 Holyflare wrote: you basically had 6 in that game day 1 too and you weren't under any pressure at all so you could just post less, unlike here so post count is irrelevant but whatever the point is you lied so it's cool If lying is saying things about games that happened quite awile ago as I remember them off the top of my head and MAYBE being wrong then I am a pretty big liar. Na its called forgetting. 14 page filter is a very small filter for sicklucker... I probably avg 30 per game | ||
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On January 21 2015 04:57 marvellosity wrote: I think Slam looks kinda ok so far. VA is VA. You can always lynch VA but meh. I think slam not telling us who wile is is least a bit scummy. I think if hes the only person in the game who knows who he is its very morally questionable to sub into this game as well. | ||
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On January 21 2015 05:05 KelsierSC wrote: I imagine the reason that person wants to use a smurf is so they can avoid discussion of their meta. Slam is probably respecting the wishes of that person. I don't think it makes him scummy. I get that but why do you sub into the game then? Now slam knows and if hes mafia he can use it to his advantage if he chooses at any time. Or he can have a read he cant explain if hes town. Either way whatever alignment he is has an advantage now. | ||
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On January 21 2015 06:12 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Where is this coming from all of a sudden? Completely unwarranted. Its interesting because dandred said if he rolled mafia he would not try. | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:15 liancourt wrote: Because I'm playing a particular meta. You can guess what kind of meta it is when the days go by Its always the same meta and its always bad town play | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:18 batsnacks wrote: I'm voting SL for the weird free town reads and the fact that he lied about giving weird free town reads as scum. I thought that's why most people were voting him. When was this proven or relivent? I gave an example where I was mafia and 3 towns were fighting. I town read one who I later pocketed and scum read the other two. I dont give two town reads to two towns in a chicken fight. | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote: This feels like a boat and I just can't bail the water out fast enough at this point, (ie I did something scummy in peoples eyes and now everything I do is scummy). wanna make a club? | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:35 Koshi wrote: Seriously? 6 votes on sicklucker? Why? Well it started out with a lian policy lynch. Then by 1 or 2 players who actually gave reasons but who dont even want to kill me first anymore. Then by sheep | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:40 Alakaslam wrote: sson we are all three of the same club. Only difference is I have 50 games or more while you guys have around 10 each would not throw that stone sir, especially in this game's context No I just mean he doesint try. More then being actually bad. Ive never seen anyone afk an entire 48 hours of mylo. But this man did it and wants to policy lynch me for voting him because of it. | ||
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On January 21 2015 07:49 batsnacks wrote: It's either proven and relevant or HF has been pushing you based on lies for most of this cycle. Weren't there ~5 posts worth of town reads in the first page of your filter last time you were scum? I thought that was why everyone was voting you. I doubt it. Too lazy to look. Hf only pointed out one town read. And I pointed out two scum reads | ||
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Like If I say hey marv Im leaning town so far I learn nothing and the presure vote is useless. I do not remove that vote untill Im sure 13 minutes was alot of marv trying. He became much clearly town in that time. | ||
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On January 21 2015 08:06 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Clearly enough to never ever lynch him and call him towniest town? Doubtful. Actually yes marv quitting is weird so I cant say ill never kill koshi. But ill probably never kill koshi | ||
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On January 21 2015 08:10 Wile E. Coyote wrote: ?_? Where is the connection between the 13 minutes and marv quitting? Theres not. But if my reads are that marv is trying so hes town. Id be really silly to not give it a second thought when he quits th egame... | ||
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On January 21 2015 08:11 batsnacks wrote: He hadn't starting ignoring the vivax bullshit yet. That wasn't till later. I quoted all three of marv's posts in that 13 minute period just now he is clearly still going after vivax. No shit? Well that was a throwin that gave me more reason to town read him | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:22 Oatsmaster wrote: bad point. Vivax is totally going for the too crazy to be scum play here, how the fuck isnt anyone else voting him? also retracted marv unvoted me | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:51 Damdred wrote: SL, lets say I don't switch to you or what not. Tell me where you would want to lead thread today, onto hts or towards someone else? I like both lian and hts atm. Plenty of time to decide. Looks like ill have to vote to save myself regardless tho | ||
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On January 21 2015 09:51 batsnacks wrote: Alright I'm off and leaving my vote on SL with pretty much zero chance of switching after he ignored this for the I don't know what time: + Show Spoiler + On January 21 2015 08:26 batsnacks wrote: I'm trying to un-scumread you so please help me out. I'm going to do that thing I said I wouldn't do and re-quote a huge part of the case against you: HF is saying that the town reads you're giving out in these quotes are similar to what you did with marv/vivax. Could you say why each quote here is not similar to what you did with marv/vivax? I will be too busy to post except for maybe close to EOD. Your asking hfs questions so ignoring you? . I understand I probably didnt satisfy him but I did answer him. He interpreted my lack of memory as lies. | ||
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Anyway I made a list post that koshi agrees with read that | ||
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I remember oats picked dandred over those other two because he felt like dandred was looking for a reason to clear marv if im not mistaken? I think thats why he pointed him out. Ive played two town games with oats. He never seems super into it and might not even read everything. But he has been town | ||
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On January 21 2015 10:56 Vivax wrote: All I know is that you have an unusual boner for defending him after presenting reasons for Oats being scum. Your reasons were not that great | ||
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On January 21 2015 19:48 Wile E. Coyote wrote: So, let us assume you are town. Your mislynch wagon is rolling happily with many people on it and you townread oats for ignoring it? In what world is that towny? A townie should have an opinion on the leading wagon and not ignore them. Mafia does not want to be associated with a mislynch wagon and doesn't care about it. I said oats is null. Like very clearly | ||
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On January 21 2015 22:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Its the other way around. Vivax is not town because he's crazy. Ya thats what I thought for a big chunk of imperial too. | ||
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On January 21 2015 22:14 Half the Sky wrote: In any instance, I'm not convinced Vivax should go today. My issue with Lian is he's done absolutely nothing, when last game I played with him he was pretty vocal. No kidding? No one but oats who didnt see vivaxs last game is suggesting this. Hes the top town in the game | ||
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On January 21 2015 22:33 Koshi wrote: Ohhhhh you are the guy that was so full off himself D5-D6 that he found all the scum. I remember. You are less confident this game  . And people are voting you. I failed two games inarow. That does something to a man. Im kind of still confident tho | ||
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Theres 6 votes against me ill kill 80% of the game to save myself Like I need you to save me the town is sheeple. My lynch order is hts first then lian. But beggars cant be choosers. ##vote half the sky | ||
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Hts, lian, dandred I feel like two are always scum we cant go wrong. | ||
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On January 22 2015 00:52 KelsierSC wrote: of course damdred wasn't your target but my point to you was that SL had dodged a question about damdred and you agreed that he had done that, even though no such question existed. OHH i finally understand the keltrap | ||
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On January 22 2015 05:49 KelsierSC wrote: sorry vivax is /squelch so i can't interact with him Rly? Thats probably a really bad idea if your serious and hes kind of toned it down | ||
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On January 22 2015 06:04 Holyflare wrote: someone sum up what's happened since i've been gone Ok + Show Spoiler + Nothing! | ||
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On January 22 2015 06:09 Wile E. Coyote wrote: My vote is on the leading wagon. There is no need for me to push something else. Actually technically lians the leading wagon. I can break the tie if it comes to it. Your not lynching me you random smurf | ||
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Why dont you just admit your still "policy" lynching me | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:07 sicklucker wrote: Lian you were in that game. Why didnt you point it out? Why dont you just admit your still "policy" lynching me This is a trick question you didnt even remember you were in it. You didnt remember you ever played with me as scum in new years and I reminded you did then. If you dont remember this game you expect me to give 100% accurate accounts? | ||
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Now hes saying im lying because I dont remember the same game correctly. Kill this man get wrecked | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:09 liancourt wrote: Hf found reasons and i m sheeping them Last I heard he didnt want to kill me today. Do you have any actual reason? | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:13 Holyflare wrote: how does that make him mafia instead of "misremembering" like you've done? It makes his reason for scum reading me bullshit and if hes town he should rescind it. If he wants to policy vote me thats fine. If he cant remember the game he cant expect me to remember it. | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:18 liancourt wrote: Dont try to be like kel. I knew i was in titanic i died n2. I remember my own plays in games not other ppls games. Should i remember how 12 other players played that game or is it normal for me to remember how oneself in a game. And im being called a liar about not remembering my reads ON OTHER PLAYERS. Its like the same thing. I even got hf and hopeless mixed up because they both started with an h and died pretty early | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:22 liancourt wrote: I agree with hfs reasons they are good reasons. I sheep him Marv and hf pushed me people followed. They both unvoted me for pretty decent reasons and you dont have an excuse anymore to sheep. Stop policy lynching me and find scum if your town | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:49 Holyflare wrote: sicklucker why are you not voting for hts when your read was so concrete on her? you said you coached her and she was obvious mafia and now you've left the thread and aren't voting her Get +1 vote ill hammer. I have to protect myself. If I unvote lian Its a 3-3 tie I also really think lians scum too. Ive pushed them both all game | ||
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On January 22 2015 07:55 Holyflare wrote: i care that I want hts lynched and absolutely NOBODY is talking about the reasons but instead are talking about the wagon numbers pathetic pathetic pathetic Like im not materying for town over lian here. Like ever get a vote and I can safely hammer her | ||
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On January 22 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote: Because voting for your town read is the right play. No wil mafia sound angrier than normal players, push me if you want No wasting your vote is kind of scummy ive never done it as town yet. If the leading vote is lian and you dont vote to save him it just means you voted for lian with the rest of us imo. | ||
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On January 22 2015 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote: 1. Thats not a point 2. That doesnt make me scum at all?!? It was never meant as a discussion point 3. Thats not true. 4. I have no idea what you are smoking cause thats also not true 5. Clearly I think you are scum and the second part of that is a non point. 6. This is so general that you could apply it to half the people in the game, so clearly that doesnt make me scum either. Great case Damdred. .. There was some insane struggle to almost get HTS lynched, makes me think shes scum. It wasint that insane. We just needed one vote from someone like you who probably wasted their vote im not even sure if you did. Town was just lazy or really wanted lian to die im not sure. | ||
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On January 22 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote: Because voting for your town read is the right play. No wil mafia sound angrier than normal players, push me if you want You dont scum read any of me hts / lian?. Regardless of how you read us you must have some preference no matter how small right...? Like it could be as small as you think im a weaker player so you vote me. But you should come up with some reason in close votes like this to be a good town imo | ||
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On January 22 2015 14:29 Holyflare wrote: sicklucker could have switched and not died at the same time he was just silly and doesn't really factor in any logic ever It totally does. I gave it alot of thought if I switched to hts it would have been 3 lian, 3 me , 3 hts I was the first person to 3 so I would be the vote im pretty sure? Not risking it anyway plus I any single person can hammer me if not. I could not switch to hts because im not an idiot. Thats why I kept asking for you to get one vote so I could safelyb switch | ||
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On January 23 2015 00:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Bats thinks im town when the whole game thinks im scum. Hmmmmmmmmm. I dont think your scum. Actually mine and bats read are pretty similar. I was in both those games as town as well. It certainly doesint make you town tho. | ||
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On January 23 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote: SL can you recap your reasons for Oats being mafia in a bullet list? If they're genuine and you aren't forgetful it shouldn't be hard. 1. - hes not - hes not - hes not - hes null - Im talking about carol where he was super bad and had a 4 page filter | ||
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On January 23 2015 03:52 Holyflare wrote: oh wait you're scum reading sl?? I think ive consistently been her top scum read all game | ||
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On January 23 2015 04:27 Holyflare wrote: read the thread I literally just posted that she wasn't Na shes just being wissy washy on me tonight probably trying to save a vote. Who cares were killing her tomorrow. Her read switch changes nothing im voting her anyway but its a good reason to continue doing it. | ||
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oats - null or town hf - null leaning town? dandred - town va - who cares? null koshi - town ksc - not totally sure but he didnt vote me ever This is pretty much my town list too. | ||
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Outliers are like you, hts, vivax, bats. Scum are definelty in this group. Slam and va could go either way. | ||
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On January 23 2015 05:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It has nothing to do with confidence and everything with forgetting that mafia could vote you. two mafia together? thats suicide. | ||
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On January 23 2015 05:46 Koshi wrote: Oh I read that backwards. I understand your point now. You thought he said hts scum read me all game? because that is certainly debatable. | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:09 Wile E. Coyote wrote: SL says there is no way he was getting lynched. His explanation for this is that his townreads would not have switched to him. He totally forgot that mafia could. The situation was that he WAS the lynch until very close to deadline and even then it only took one mafia to vote on him for him to die. Especially his #1 scumread HTS could have easily killed him. im aware hts would have voted me if I moved my vote to her (I think she would have had to, to save herself anyway) Thats why I refused to vote hts without another vote. But thats still 1 vote. They needed 2 | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote: No. HTS was on lian. If she votes you then you die. The end. No because I voted lian to make sure I had the tie breaker. Thats why I didnt want to move unless we had enough votes. I know how tiebreakers work I think. Its whoever gets the most votes first. | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:18 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Are you guys stupid? Sicklucker has 3 votes. Lian has 4 including HTS. If she votes Sicklucker he is dead. Oh I never thought of this. But ill tell you what a mafia will never hammer a town in a town vs town votes. You cant see my role pm but im town. If she votes me she looks super scummy | ||
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On January 23 2015 06:33 Wile E. Coyote wrote: It does make him mafia because he did not even consider the possibility that mafia could ever vote him. He just said "my townreads were ok with me so I would never get lynched" which makes no sense for a townie to think in his situation. I didnt really have a say in the matter tbh. So no I didnt really care. Voting lian was the#1 thing I could do for survival and I did it and prayed his bad play was mafia. | ||
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On January 23 2015 08:03 Vivax wrote: Why would you ever lynch Wile, he's being a town hero. You're rocketing up the scum charts dear Since when is talking about something I do as either alignment for 20 hours a town hero | ||
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On January 23 2015 09:18 Vivax wrote: Hts voted lian with you and Koshi. So it's obvious you can be on the same team. Marv isn't confirmed town as I just showed you with my analysis. He found some reasons to scumread you, then scrapped them, and started glaring at a liancourt lynch to get another wagon to save you. He decided it would be Damdred. Now to reading Koshi and further solving the game. Hts was trying to get me lynched early d1. Besides hf who agreed with my initial case I want hts dead the most. I dont know how marv plays mafia but if he wants to save me. Hes not going to get me in that bad spot in the first place. Marv was the reason people first voted me. He didnt like day 1 being fixated on him. | ||
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On January 24 2015 01:00 Half the Sky wrote: The one point that sticks out at me as scumlike is him sheeping Koshi's vote on Liancourt. And then if I recall correctly he turns around and accuses Koshi of being scum in his VCA. I found this odd. This is off-the-cuff and I need to look further into why he did that. Damn thats actually a decent point. I feel like vivax is playing his town game. But ive never seen his scum game. Vivax what games were you scum in? | ||
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On January 24 2015 01:17 Alakaslam wrote: And if you have been gone all game, did your truck overheat 150 miles from your hometown where your buddy had work next morning and towing a trailer you had to get another truck for, drive back, and get because the place it was in has high theft rate? If so, so sorry about your 24 hour workday bro 10/10 would accept your excuse agaiin | ||
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On January 24 2015 01:20 Alakaslam wrote: What? I am voting SL I can't answer that question Now did you read the game before you did this? Be honest slam | ||
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On January 24 2015 03:27 Alakaslam wrote: JAT remember the pm I said the only instance that I would reveal you was if it was incredibly pro-town because I couldn't handle the wifom? yeah. sorry for ruining smurfing but Wile is JAT. I mean I knew it was jat the second koshi mentioned it. No reason to hide it after that. Buttons clicked in my head and it made too much sense | ||
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Im town and your tunneling me while not trying to solve the game. Your basically defending my scum read. How can I not think your scum here? | ||
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On January 24 2015 04:06 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Which scumread of yours am I defending? How am I not trying to solve this game? Hts. Your not trying to solve the game by only ever mentioning one player (me) whos a town. Like off the top of my head I cant remember any of your other reads | ||
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On January 24 2015 03:52 Alakaslam wrote: sl what's up sson you like my attempt at battraps what was your trap? You confuse the shit out of me. All I understood is that you think jat is town and you think im scum because your sheeping him. | ||
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Koshi - I was already pretty close to never voting out marv day1 and koshi has not disappointed top town. KelsierSC - Started super strong but has not done much lately. He did this last game as town so im very happy keeping my town read on him Dandred - I like his wait and see approach on me. Because thats the correct way to play me and its what a town dandred would think. Null Va- The slight amount of content I like but I cant justify giving a 1 page filter anything but a null read. Slam - Meh I buy his excuse but he always has some. Him outing jat and trying to take town credit for it when koshi already did was strange. But him sheeping his town read (jat) without reading the thread is definitely in slams town playbook. Vivax - Started being a townie crazy vivax not sure what hes doing anymore. Only has 1 crazy theory atm and is barely trying to push it down are throats. Would really love if someone linked me to a recent mafia game of his. batsnacks - bah I can never read this man no idea atm. Im copping out on this one hes self admitted hes played poorly when vs called him scummy and I agree. Oatsmaster - If I were to move one of my nulls to town I think it would be him. So leaning town? Hes being his typical lurky self. Hes like me in the sense you leave him around and you figure him out later in the game. Scum Half the Sky - Already walls of text. scum. Has not done anything to not be scum since. a great lynch today Wile E. Coyote - Now that I know hes jat my standards are higher I need to reread his filter with this new perspective. But from my pov hes tunneling on me so its not looking good. | ||
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On January 24 2015 06:10 Damdred wrote: SL you don't see what Hts is doing now filter diving everyone and talking about them to be town sided at all? a lil | ||
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On January 25 2015 04:07 KelsierSC wrote: SL if hts is town it makes you look very likely mafia imo I dont disagree. but ive been wrong on her before | ||
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On January 25 2015 23:27 Wile E. Coyote wrote: If he was so serious about that he could have done so without being lynched. I would be confirmed mafia if one player decided they wanted to vote hts and I dont hammer her. Its a really bad play if were mafia partners. | ||
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On January 26 2015 09:55 batsnacks wrote: I don't understand the Wile suspicion at all he is top town aside from VA to me. I think every person left, VA aside, is a better lynch than Wile. WoH | ||
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On January 26 2015 10:21 Vivax wrote: I thought he was Koshi's scumread, then went back to what Koshi wrote before dying, then saw bats. I actually townread Wile myself all the time until I saw Koshi died. The wile vote was me not reading Koshi's last posts. well I want wile dead but thats a shitty reason by itself. Koshi was the obvious nk. | ||
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On January 26 2015 20:07 Vivax wrote: Your case is a pure meta case and based on finding some stuff that seems contradictory but really isn't. Like, I remember disagreeing with HF on HTS during N1 but when I saw him flip I was the first to drop my vote. If you want to say I'm scum, then you also have to say I only inscenated all of this. But of the people voting HTS, I simply afk parked my vote on her all day long without even trying to steer the lynch away. Like, I popped in occasionally to read Koshi's exchanges with you and actually townread you during D1 but now that Koshi is dead you're next on the list. Ya you and the entire game except maybe dandred | ||
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On January 27 2015 03:14 Vivax wrote: Just a quick question before I go to bed: D2, after HF died, was there such a big fuss about the next lynch target? And today, that Koshi died, who is causing all this fuss? ah dont go to bed I just woke up. You guys covered so much I expected to wake up to another new years eve mafia where town retardedly left me in charge | ||
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On January 27 2015 23:04 Wile E. Coyote wrote: Talking about damdred? There are quite a few things that are off about him. I talked about a few of them. Like his supposed demotivation while he is way more active in a different game etc. also I think I explained why I think that if SL is town mafia probably wasted their vote day1. Because I am town and I think bats is too. So the only mafia who could have pushed for anything would be Vivax. Damdred just wasted his vote on oats without contributing to the lynch which I don't think town Damdred does anyways. Vivax wasted his vote by afk sheeping too. Not as bad but the same idea | ||
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But if hes scum which people seem to forgot about. Either vivax is his partner or there both town. Because wile cant be voting with his partner because there both confirmed town... | ||
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On January 28 2015 08:00 batsnacks wrote: ##unvote ##vote Oatsmaster | ||
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On January 28 2015 07:59 batsnacks wrote: I'm not going against 150 pages worth of posts to change my mind after 30 seconds of thinking. 1 minute later. lol o bats seems you did | ||
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Did you vote dandred to save yourself or because you thought he was scum? I missed that part | ||
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On January 21 2015 01:06 sicklucker wrote: This is a semi lie. She voted va to save herself im pretty sure. She was checked out of this game focusing on here other game where she was mafia and I was her coach. So hts mafia game is pretty passive and trying to be a peacemaker more then a town should. Heres her defending like 5 people in her 1 page filter I already posted one above heres some more. Giving lian and oats excuses. Defending my pressure on marv Defending me after lian said I havent posted although for a good reason But still a town should want to see pressure.Defending hf UOTE]On January 20 2015 23:28 Half the Sky wrote: You sure about this, Oats? What did you think about his push on Wile? Defending Hf again Its not that her defense points are not good. Its just thats what she does as mafia. Shes also scum reading and pushing vivax as the other half of her filter. Whos like definitely town. [/QUOTE] i was the first one to make a case on hts. and its a pretty good one | ||
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On January 29 2015 10:47 Alakaslam wrote: What is the aversion to lynching Oatsmaster? Not alot. I did try to push him over vivax yesterday. Hes almost certainly one of are three lynches | ||
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On January 29 2015 11:31 Vivax wrote: But why oatzs over wile/bats? There all pretty scummy but I dont see a wile/oats combo. I see bats/wile oats/bats bats/wile Bats in all of the combos maybe we just kill him first | ||
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On January 29 2015 11:37 Alakaslam wrote: OAts because Wile defended himself quite well to me and Bats is not scummy enough, and has others townreading him. Also, your word is weakened (but not gone!) in my eyes as the voting behaviors massively implicate you. They also implicate me, so I am definitely still listening to you. But if your town. Then oats most likely partners are bats/wile.... | ||
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On January 30 2015 05:45 Vivax wrote: Alakaslam why u voting with ur other scumread? Not even sure slam scumreads wile... | ||
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Vivax slam oats wile bats | ||
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On January 30 2015 16:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Why is bats townier than me? If you cant figure out my list is from most town down ... | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:07 KelsierSC wrote: I was talking to sl Because I convinced you I was town. No Idea how no one tried to kill jat. Koshi barried him I thought I would have to bus him for sure | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:08 justanothertownie wrote: I have no fucking idea why. He was so unbelievable obvious it hurt. You were the way more obvious mafia. I honestly stopped posting because all I could do was bus you were so mafia ;p. The one day I did try I had koshi/marv/hf around my finger | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:19 Alakaslam wrote: SL is plynch from here forward until he improves. Sorry. you know I was mafia right? | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:10 Damdred wrote: I've come to the conclusion SL is really really obvious mafia and just hopes town tears itself a part before it comes to him XD. Either way mafia played relatively well throughout the game, JAT was pretty obvious mafia just because how BM and how horrible he was to talk with at times If you really think this im glad. I won without any effort Im gonna go nuts on you in the future! | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:27 Koshi wrote: gg dnu how JAT wasn't lynched. Easiest lynch in your life. After that Alakaslam was cleared for spoiling Wile was JAT. Sickluster wanting to lynch HTS screwed me over big time. But I might have turned that read around after I lynched Wile and Vivax/bats. Also. Why you fuckers lynched Damdred after I told you he was town the entire game is beyond me. Or why you lynch Oats right after HTS who clearly cleared Oats. Really terrible by the town in the game and not Oats his fault. Learn to fucking open a filter and read it. | ||
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I would have totally had to have hammer her but I didnt think anyone would actually switch to her. After that I pretty much posted 2 times a day and played dota with all the best players out. | ||
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On February 03 2015 08:42 marvellosity wrote: sl did do very well to not get auto-lynched when me and hf were on him day 1. You dont even know. This was a game of pure sheepers look at the hts wagon. My only hope was to get you two off me then the rest would follow | ||
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On February 03 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote: JAT you were extremely angry this game whenever someone called you mafia, like to the extreme past what you normally would do as town. I think it was really annoying and it made you mafia to me but nobody trusted me lol, kel tunneled me into the ground for bad reasons and it is what it is. JAT legit carried you from d2 to end game, he pushed all of the lynches through or showed enough wariness on town lynches to get some cred from it. You played a decent scum game but it wasn't earth shattering *shrug* Town carried me. So I afked if you honestly think this was me trying your in for a shocker. Like my game feel off because I wanted it too. This game was auto from like day 3 | ||
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On February 03 2015 09:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because you have an obligation to try your hardest to win the game. Not getting lynched is only part of it, both town and mafia have agendas that reach further than that. If I ever thought we were in any danger of losing I would have stepped it up | ||
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Town qt dudes koshi and vat | ||
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