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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 00:13 GMT
#215
On January 20 2015 09:11 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 09:04 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 08:57 Damdred wrote:
I've already answered I missed oats small blurb until HF showed it


I find it hard that you didn't notice, you were in the thread and hr mentioned your name.

So your pressure in Marv is legitimate then. To me it looks like you sort of trolled by saying "lynching Marv is fun"


Do you know as far as I know marv has never been mislynch day 1? And he barely ever gets lynched as town? If we lynch marv it's fun because he's scum


I didn't know that.

So you are actually pressuring Marv then ?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 00:26 GMT
#221
On January 20 2015 09:17 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 09:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 09:11 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 09:04 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 08:57 Damdred wrote:
I've already answered I missed oats small blurb until HF showed it


I find it hard that you didn't notice, you were in the thread and hr mentioned your name.

So your pressure in Marv is legitimate then. To me it looks like you sort of trolled by saying "lynching Marv is fun"


Do you know as far as I know marv has never been mislynch day 1? And he barely ever gets lynched as town? If we lynch marv it's fun because he's scum


I didn't know that.

So you are actually pressuring Marv then ?


Right now no, he probably won't show up till Tommorow. But when he does I will be


So if you aren't actually pushing on marv and were sort of trolling, how did I misrepresent you?

And if you do plan to push on marv tomorrow, why did you use two posts telling marv how to get a town read from you?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 00:34 GMT
#226
On January 20 2015 09:32 Damdred wrote:
I think you misrepresented me in that I meant to be on marv and the conversation you portrayed I think leads to biased reading of what happened.

Marv would be around when game started wouldn't be around now probably.


I understand you meant to be on marv I am not taking that into my evaluation of you.

What do you think was unfair about the conversation I portrayed?

Again if you plan on pushing marv why did you use two posts telling him how to get a town read.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 00:36 GMT
#228
specifically these points
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun


On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots



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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 00:37 GMT
#229
Also can you answer this

On January 20 2015 06:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 06:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Did you think what Dam said was good?


What he said in opening made sense, but I'm more curious to know why he commented on vetting Marv's alignment and just a minute later, Marv is in thread to comment on Artanis' story, but Dam doesn't appear to push him on it even though he talks on the story.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 00:49 GMT
#234
On January 20 2015 09:44 Damdred wrote:
Marv knows his meta he is self aware of it. He really doesn't need damdred to tell him how to look town. This avenue isn't really productive as the answer is obvious.

However to hrs, art put a lot of effort into writing. So I wanted to give it a read he deserves we have 4x hours of interactions will be opportunities


if the answer is obvious then why did you decide to make people aware of it?

Marv was in the thread though and you just ignored him, just like you kind of ignored oats post.

You seem apathetic to what people are saying in general.

Right now your main reads are just oats was bad, and that W.E.C was dodgy.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 00:52 GMT
#235
On January 20 2015 09:49 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Geripts marv read is ridiculous. The guy has 4 posts. 2 of them are about Artanis story.


agreed
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:00 GMT
#240
On January 20 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:
I've been accosted with carp questions since I've been back. How do you tell marv is town? Because you just do. What does the thread have to do with any of this? If you have played with marv you know his town game if you haven't just compare.



Ok, I'm sorry you didn't like my questions.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:11 GMT
#246
On January 20 2015 10:07 Damdred wrote:
No answer why does it matter if thread knows how town marv would act


it matters because this logic makes no sense to me

"I am going to pressure this person so they can prove to me they are town"

"This is what the person has to do to convince me they are town"

........(that person i want to pressure is here, better not question them)

"oh they did that thing, well they have to be town then"

I don't know why you would write line 2 unless you wanted an excuse to town read marv in the first place.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:14 GMT
#250
On January 20 2015 10:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
anyway damdred's reason is bad because you cant start off by calling someone scum if he doesnt do literally anything.
Hes gotta do something to be called scum.

The read should be, if marv does "thisthisthis" then hes scum, not if marv doesnt do "thisthisthis" then hes scum.


I like this a lot
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:20 GMT
#256
On January 20 2015 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 10:07 Damdred wrote:
No answer why does it matter if thread knows how town marv would act


it matters because this logic makes no sense to me

"I am going to pressure this person so they can prove to me they are town"

"This is what the person has to do to convince me they are town"

........(that person i want to pressure is here, better not question them)

"oh they did that thing, well they have to be town then"

I don't know why you would write line 2 unless you wanted an excuse to town read marv in the first place.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 10:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
anyway damdred's reason is bad because you cant start off by calling someone scum if he doesnt do literally anything.
Hes gotta do something to be called scum.

The read should be, if marv does "thisthisthis" then hes scum, not if marv doesnt do "thisthisthis" then hes scum.


this just isn't true at all, marv has been mafia and we know he's mafia in past games when he's just done absolutely nothing at all hence why posts like damdred's make sense


marv just won a scum game without being lynched where he had a filter of 40 something pages. The game that Dam was just in.

So Dam using a stale meta of "well he yells a lot" just seems bogus to me
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:23 GMT
#260
On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:26 GMT
#264
On January 20 2015 10:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 10:20 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
On January 20 2015 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 10:07 Damdred wrote:
No answer why does it matter if thread knows how town marv would act


it matters because this logic makes no sense to me

"I am going to pressure this person so they can prove to me they are town"

"This is what the person has to do to convince me they are town"

........(that person i want to pressure is here, better not question them)

"oh they did that thing, well they have to be town then"

I don't know why you would write line 2 unless you wanted an excuse to town read marv in the first place.

On January 20 2015 10:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
anyway damdred's reason is bad because you cant start off by calling someone scum if he doesnt do literally anything.
Hes gotta do something to be called scum.

The read should be, if marv does "thisthisthis" then hes scum, not if marv doesnt do "thisthisthis" then hes scum.


this just isn't true at all, marv has been mafia and we know he's mafia in past games when he's just done absolutely nothing at all hence why posts like damdred's make sense


marv just won a scum game without being lynched where he had a filter of 40 something pages. The game that Dam was just in.

So Dam using a stale meta of "well he yells a lot" just seems bogus to me


Right, and in previous games where he's gone try hard mafia his next games contain almost 0 content or play at all because he cba. Hence Damdred's meta point of him probably not giving a crap holds some truth.


that's a fair point. I just don't see why you would explain that out loud when your "plan" is to pressure them next day. Anyway I have said all I want on this.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:31 GMT
#269
On January 20 2015 10:29 Damdred wrote:
Art and myself begged marv, to do something and we had to fight him tooth and nail. Marv might be trying to tone down his town game but it's still apparent, everyone knew marv was Scum in imperial other people just took priority as marv posted nothing that looked like his town game.

When someone is self meta aware it is not as big a detriment in the thread especially when that person generally can't be bothered.


I didn't scum read him =(

but first time with marv, he wasn't gentle
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 01:44 GMT
#275
Alright I'm going to sleep then boys

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 08:40 GMT
#304
On January 20 2015 16:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 16:12 Holyflare wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:08 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 15:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 06:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I also think the opening between Vivax and Damdred was pretty awkward

"lets vote on marv"

yeh "lets vote on marv trololol"

"why do you think im voting on marv"

"here is why you are voting on marv"

"hey what a great reason for why i'm voting on marv"

I also don't like that damdred twice aleady you seem happy to town read marv as soon as he starts doing anything.

On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun



On January 20 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:14 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
And lynching marv is fun

Do you have experience in the field?


Some, if hes town he yells lots



On January 20 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 06:13 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Sounds to me like KelsierSC's point is that damdred sets himself up to townread Marv as soon as he starts yelling/being loud.


yeh


I agree with this, and I don't think Dam actually voted marv even tho he said so.

Now finding the part where KSc is supposed to mirepresent somebody.


Oh and this post. I mean the second part is what I agree with. I like your way of thinking. Tell me where ur supposed to misrepresent somebody. Cba to look for it with this fever.


On January 20 2015 02:15 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 02:13 Damdred wrote:
I really don't think that Marv cba as mafia three games in a row especially last game.

Part of the reason I see you doing this is to vet his alignment and see if he comes in marv!town. If he doesn't and cba we get a mafia if he does we at least have lowered the lynch pool.

And lynching marv is fun


I like this reason.

Wyle isn't up to date with recent events so he probably thinks we're just doing this for trolling.
But just keep piling up the votes in my absence and see what happens.


Does not compute. You either like damd's point or you agree with kelsier and don't like damd's point.


It does compute cause at the time Damdred wrote that I agreed but Kelsier pointed out a good different interpretion.

So either Kelsier is tring to attack Dam for that post as mafia, or Damdred as mafia with marv wrote that post to get a reason for townreading him like Kelsier suggested.


There is the option that Damdred is mafia and marv is town.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 08:50 GMT
#305
On January 20 2015 17:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 16:53 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:05 Vivax wrote:
Like, it was fucking start of the game, so let's just do something no? Like starting a wagon on the best scumplayer of the forums. How about that Oats?

How about this doesn't mean that the reason for starting the wagon is good at all?

I really don't want to play a game where past performance is way more important that in game performance or people are specifically targeted because of a certain reason.

I'm pretty sure damdreds post was the most recent to mine which is the why I mentioned it.


Dude I just lost a game to marv in Empire cause I couldn't see Dam and Artanis being his scumbuddies.

Marv is for me a D1 policy lynch. 90 % scum winrate. Or he is so posty and insightful and actually lynches a mafia that I feel confident in townreading him the later days.

So you basically dont want to play with marv then?

##vote Vivax


is not wanting to play with marv alignment indicative?

I mean my ass still hurts from last game
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 09:07 GMT
#306
who's in the thread right now?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 09:37 GMT
#308
On January 20 2015 18:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 17:50 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 17:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:53 Vivax wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On January 20 2015 16:05 Vivax wrote:
Like, it was fucking start of the game, so let's just do something no? Like starting a wagon on the best scumplayer of the forums. How about that Oats?

How about this doesn't mean that the reason for starting the wagon is good at all?

I really don't want to play a game where past performance is way more important that in game performance or people are specifically targeted because of a certain reason.

I'm pretty sure damdreds post was the most recent to mine which is the why I mentioned it.


Dude I just lost a game to marv in Empire cause I couldn't see Dam and Artanis being his scumbuddies.

Marv is for me a D1 policy lynch. 90 % scum winrate. Or he is so posty and insightful and actually lynches a mafia that I feel confident in townreading him the later days.

So you basically dont want to play with marv then?

##vote Vivax


is not wanting to play with marv alignment indicative?

I mean my ass still hurts from last game

Vivax is avoiding actually playing the game.
You know, scum hunting and all that.


True, I'll give you that

what do you think about VA,

Firstly he says he is going to be here all day.

On January 20 2015 02:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
sup im here most of the day which is weird, have my first monday off in quite some time.

I think everyone should write a sentence about how much they enjoyed Artanis' flavor and those who can't procure an emotional reaction from me are probably mafia because they are too rigid from anxiety to create a beautiful memoir.



Talks about reading people off Artanis' flavour but never really follows up on it. In fact despite being here all day only has 2 more posts.

One is
On January 20 2015 07:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
so yea I think kelsier is mafia any opinions on that guys


Ok you can read me as mafia if you like but there is no push or reasons or anything just "what do you guys think"

Then when bats gives a reason he is like " yeh thats why"

On January 20 2015 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 07:55 batsnacks wrote:
On January 20 2015 07:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
so yea I think kelsier is mafia any opinions on that guys


because of anything I said or other stuff? Want to vote him with me?


uh yea that post is one reason. that seems really really forced, like i cant even begin to fathom a town person ever making that post it just makes no sense. His filter reads like the script for a new simpsons episode.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 05:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 20 2015 05:24 Damdred wrote:
Never to early, and what oats did is pretty crappy in retrospect.


why didn't you comment on it being crappy earlier? especially when he calls you out specifically?


lel who cares

rest is mainly filler/unimportant but you can look through it yourselves if you want. idk maybe he's an awkward fellow its early to classify anyone as scum but just throwin it out there


Especially the bolded part, that seems way too strong a thing to say this early in the game. Finally he follows up despite using his post to call me scum and give a reason to say "I dunno" maybe is awkward.

I don't like VA at all
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 20 2015 09:47 GMT
#311
On January 20 2015 18:45 marvellosity wrote:
and 92.3%, thank you

gg
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