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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:22 GMT
#1795
On January 23 2015 03:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Vivax, I saw your more substantial reasons for scumreading Oats (besides the vote analysis).

You asked him for scumreads. He threw out a list. Your thoughts on that list, and how he threw it out?

I have no idea who you are scumreading btw. maybe YOU should give a list.
Like what are your reads on Kelsier and HF? If you are town - are they mafia for pushing you? What about the other wagons?
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:29 GMT
#1803
On January 23 2015 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 03:24 Vivax wrote:
On January 23 2015 03:20 Holyflare wrote:
vivax still has not commented on hts at all ever instead makes even more crazy scum reads


I'm conversating with her right now and I have other people I suspect. This post just gave you more scumpoints.


she's in a position of amazing knowledge seeing as she was another wagon that I pushed for and who does she go for? another easy afk lurker oats who always plays mediocre and bad like this, nothing insightful whatsoever and rehashes damdreds read it's not even her own work

This is a good point.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:30 GMT
#1805
On January 23 2015 03:28 Holyflare wrote:
the longer people ignore her and don't take stances on her the more mafia you'll look when she flips tonight

cool story bro
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:31 GMT
#1806
On January 23 2015 03:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 03:24 Holyflare wrote:
On January 23 2015 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
All you even have to do is look at the fact that hts did absolutely nothing around deadline and afk's and then when I say we should consolidate on a wagon, still nothing, when I say consolidate her she tries to wildly fling shit on me based on other games reasoning and that I must be mafia because of other games and not this one. She doesn't even try and convince me that she's town she just tries to convince other people that my personality is wrong instead of my reasoning. Then, as soon as lian flips she completely fucks off, without a single word. She just isn't interested in solving this game at all.

She is the most open and shut mafia in the history of this one game of mafia.

On January 22 2015 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
On January 22 2015 07:24 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 22 2015 07:23 Holyflare wrote:
we vote hts because we vote on mafia, it's just what town people do!

That's fine. But you need to show me why she is mafia first.


boring play, scum reads only on people that are afk that haven't really been updated all game, only replying to questions and not really doing any positive digging herself

probably mafia and gets my vote + gets info for other people

On January 22 2015 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
On January 22 2015 07:30 Half the Sky wrote:
On January 22 2015 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
boring play, scum reads only on people that are afk that haven't really been updated all game, only replying to questions and not really doing any positive digging herself

probably mafia and gets my vote + gets info for other people


Boring play? Sorry I don't have a "sparkling" personality or whatever you deem worthy of being in this game.

I already explained to Koshi where I'm having trouble getting decent reads on some people.

Replying to questions has been taking up most of my time aside from reading filters because I'm getting so many of them. Context please.


Nothing to do with a sparkling personality, you just are more interactive and more inquisitive in your town games and it looks towny whereas here I haven't particularly seen you do anything above and beyond the course of null duty which is uncharacteristic, even in your town game where you tried to play scummy (carol).

This is specifically what i'm talking about, you aren't interested in finding things out more than replying to people's questions about what you think instead.

On January 22 2015 07:37 Holyflare wrote:
this is my opinion on what i've read. My experience with you is irrelevant because if you take away the meta i'm talking about my case is that you don't care about solving the game but would rather reply to questions and focus on lurkers



read quotes, anyone that disagrees with this is mafia or vivax category


I've read the exchange and to me it looks more like you're the guy being aggressive and flinging shit.
You scumread her for being "passive", she's a woman for god's sake, she will never have the style of scumhunting we men have where we jump at each others throats, are super confident etc. Maybe she reads slowly, is unsure, and whatever.

lol, what?
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:37 GMT
#1815
On January 23 2015 03:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Wile, Kelsier actually posted a case, so I'm inclined to think he's town even if he's dead on wrong. HF pushes Damdred, votes him, decides he can't be arsed enough, tells everyone and then comes in an hour prior to EoD, and is like "let's just wagon onto hts" or however he put it.

HF is likely scum just by the way he comes in like that close to EoD. Like how he just came in Carol and posted that case on his reads close to EoD.

Other wagons, when I do vote analysis I usually pay attention to the isolated (one-vote) and the 2 leading wagons. Given the shifting in the votes, you have Sicklucker who had to save himself, so that in of itself is NAI. Vivax sheeped Koshi, who was admittedly pushing a policy vote.

Does Vivax normally sheep? He had RL issues that impeded his ability to play D1, so on that, I'm inclined to give him the BOTD. Koshi was trying to solve the game earlier and he admitted the lian vote was policy on his end and he did push that. So I'd say Koshi is town. That brings me back to Sicklucker.

Oats I have already said is suspect for other reasons. I can't hold the vote in of itself against him based on when he voted relative to EoD. But that obviously doesn't clear him.

So what about Sicklucker and the people on his wagon? Is he scum or did we have 3 town wagons yesterday?
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:40 GMT
#1819
On January 23 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:
Hts,damdred,x

Could be wilie or someone who just afked their vote on SL.


I did not afk my vote. What are you talking about? I was around the whole eod.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:42 GMT
#1821
Also who else are you talking about if you say "afked their vote on SL"? There are 3 people on this wagon. Lian who is confirmed town, batsnacks who is likely town and me who is also town.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:45 GMT
#1825
Va voted for slam. Not SL.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:49 GMT
#1832
On January 23 2015 03:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Regarding the second wagon, it's hard to say when taking everything else into account.

As for you having read your filter you are all over the place. I don't know if you are normally like this, another sicklucker for instance, You appeared to be scumreading SL, but between the way you were going all out on everyone and trying to get people to vote for him, it didn't appear to me you were pushing him as hard as you could have.

Bats threw out what I felt was a 50/50 vote on Kelsier and then if I recall right, pushed SL, so I'm inclined to think he's leaning town. His activity has been impeded by RL though.

The logical step would be to figure out SL and then read me/batsnacks. But I don't see a SL read anywhere in this post.
People claim that I was defending you yet this does not seem to influence your read on me.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:51 GMT
#1834
On January 23 2015 03:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 03:45 sicklucker wrote:
Htf your still scum reading me right?


Yes, leaning scum.

Then why on earth aren't you hardcore townreading me and bats?
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 18:53 GMT
#1840
Where is the mafia motivation for me to push scum SL over you and Lian?
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 19:00 GMT
#1847
On January 23 2015 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
can you give me an actual list of your scum reads and a short reason for each hts because I seem to have to find them in amongst every other question you answer

Great idea. Could have been mine.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 19:47 GMT
#1867
On January 23 2015 04:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Oats, you, Damdred, SL

Oats throwing scumreads without explanation and his defence to Damdred was poor.

You, obviously because of how you didn't care and you just came in EoD and did your thing.

Damdred called me scum for resisting the lynch. That shouldn't be alignment indicative since anyone should want to try and save themselves, although I don't understand how he didn't consolidate onto Lian. He seemed apathetic but I couldn't get anything conclusive from that.

SL I explained I didnt' like him earlier. Erratic yes, but that doesn't mean I was completely lost on the guy's filter. I explained on the voting thing that one of us on the Lian wagon had to be scum. His switch to Lian was to save himself, but he did express a desire to hammer me.

Damdred is a weaker read and there's still a very real possibility #3 could be VA, but can't really conclude yet.

But if SL is mafia wouldn't it make more sense for mafia to be on Lian or you instead of wasting their vote? Yet you are scumreading damdred and oats. Something doesn't add up.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 20:03 GMT
#1871
On January 23 2015 05:01 sicklucker wrote:
Hts was pushing me for the first half of day1. When you and marv decided against it she switched to lian. It was quite obvious I was never getting lynched yesterday when the two best players were telling people not to vote me. Shes scum she doesint care who gets lynched.

Er. You were the leading wagon until right before deadline. Only 1 vote more and you are dead.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 20:05 GMT
#1875
On January 23 2015 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
Not really

What not really? That's not even debatable. It is a fact.
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 20:08 GMT
#1876
On January 23 2015 05:05 sicklucker wrote:
Your living in your own world wile. I think only bats and you wanted me dead. Vivax didnt even care at the time he just afked his vote.

So what? If you are town why are you not afraid of mafia voting you? Like if HTS is scum she could have voted you instead of Lian and you would be dead now.
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 20:15 GMT
#1879
It is as if you forgot there is mafia in this game that could vote you if you are town. Very very odd.
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Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 20:23 GMT
#1882
On January 23 2015 05:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 05:15 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
It is as if you forgot there is mafia in this game that could vote you if you are town. Very very odd.

what?

You don't think that it is weird that SL says he wasn't afraid of being lynched in the slightest when he was the leading wagon for almost the whole time and even in the end he was only 1 vote away from being killed? With the specific explanation that his TOWNREADS weren't scumreading him?
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 20:26 GMT
#1884
On January 23 2015 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2015 05:23 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:19 Koshi wrote:
On January 23 2015 05:15 Wile E. Coyote wrote:
It is as if you forgot there is mafia in this game that could vote you if you are town. Very very odd.

what?

You don't think that it is weird that SL says he wasn't afraid of being lynched in the slightest when he was the leading wagon for almost the whole time and even in the end he was only 1 vote away from being killed? With the specific explanation that his TOWNREADS weren't scumreading him?

No.

You should. That makes absolutely zero sense.
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
Wile E. Coyote
Profile Joined January 2014
Mexico790 Posts
January 22 2015 20:27 GMT
#1886
It has nothing to do with confidence and everything with forgetting that mafia could vote you.
I am a smurf for TL Mafia! ¡Comé el roadrunner!
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