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People aren't really suspecting you because of the logical reasoning behind your no lynch post, but the way u presented it. nice re-direct attempt though.
On January 17 2015 10:45 jarjarbinks wrote:
WHAT THE HECK?! This game is WAY more exciting than my last game!
I propose a no lynch for day 1! Any followers?
Very useful information for town. So exciting that u went afk and totally silent. Well , maybe just in this thread.
Why did you go afk for so long when u were *trying* to generate discussion? Or was that just bullshit fluff, while u were busy consulting with your mafia team?
previous game history:
On January 07 2015 02:02 jarjarbinks wrote:
Singular posts that are suspicious to me (Ignore my lack of knowledge on the English language if you can!)-
Shining- Based off 1 past game, I could see Shining’s posts on here being similar to when she was mafia last game. Really weak case though, as I’ve only played with Shining once. I could see her defending her way out of my suspicion, since it is a weak case and Shining has prodded several different people as well as defended herself in the past.
Tubesock- If I was a mafia, I would be playing like tubesock. First posts are shallowish, then stepped it up when told to. + Show Spoiler +
I haven’t thought his recent posts have been that great, they mostly follow up other’s ideas. It would be posts I could see myself posting if I wanted to post more. Plus he is off Celestial’s scum-list, which does worry me that he will be off other’s as well. A solid defense against my suspicion would be that tubesock is new and is now more confident in posting than he was at the beginning. He has also made analysis, just not at the level as others in my opinion. I don’t think Tubesock would be a smart day 1 lynch because I think we could figure him out later because of the amount of posts he has been posting.
Silverarte- If I had to choose someone who was playing similar to LS that wasn’t LS it would be Silverarte. Silverarte has no relative suspicion in comparison to LS which makes me suspicious!
Gumdrop- Lack of posts. Most people have given him a pass which isn’t good in my opinion. He has gotten some votes though, despite me seeing myself as an easier target than gumdrop. A good defense against my suspicion would be his last post, which I thought was pretty good.
LS- I would file LS as suspicious but someone I would want to not lynch day 1. He has the attention of people, and he posts a lot. I think it should be easier to determine him mafia later on IF he is mafia. I think it would be easier to get backing from others as well based on what I have read on here so far.
Suspicions on collaboration (I think it would be stupid to collaborate as mafia day 1, but what do I know):
Celestial-Exo: Small hints of collaboration. If I was mafia, I think the best person to estabilish my credibility as town would be Celestial. Have generally agreed with all of their posts. Both went after LS.
Rsoultin-Silverarte-LS-me if you would like: Rsoultin generally makes good logical arguments from what I have seen from her and from personal experience. It is very easy to bandwagon her points. Silverarte, LS, and I have all done that already. Silverarte has been on her side since the beginning. You can attribute that to them being friends. LS did bandwagon on Rsoultins ideas, but you could attribute that to LS’s defense. Still worth noting for now.
People I’m generally scared of:
Celestial- Established great credibility day 1. Your writing style is very similar to a very established economist professor’s. If I was good at this game and was mafia, establishing credibility would be a top priority.
Rsoultin- Very good at prodding and generating very logical arguments against people. Which means, if mafia, would be very good at it. Can prod and generate arguments about fallacies in people’s posts remarkably well. If she is mafia, I will have a difficult time reading it and a difficult time trying to convince others of it.
People I think are least scummy:
HTS-Good analysis and limited posts make it hard for me to be suspicious.
Exo- great prodder early day and seems to be flinging scum everywhere. I would try to do this as scum (I think I’d have a better shot at this over establishing credibility lol). I also like that he tried to generate others to talk more (I’m such a hypocrite). Plus, people have been suspicious of him. That makes me a little more at ease about not being suspicious of him just in case he truly is mafia.
On January 17 2015 18:25 jarjarbinks wrote:
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On January 17 2015 13:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 17 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:
On January 17 2015 10:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 17 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
On January 17 2015 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 17 2015 10:17 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike's play does seem rather weird so far. First he says that my early vote is scummy, and then says that it is towny. Regardless of whether my early vote was a good or bad play, LightningStrike's view changed on it after DarthPunk and LoneMeow expressed opinions that it was a slightly townie thing to do. And then, asking for rsoultin makes no sense at all. Why rsoultin? If it's to make a meta read, how about all of the rest of us he has played with before?
GlowingBear's opening seems pretty bad as well. In general I don't like claiming, since I feel that town players should simply play well to show that they are town (just like how I don't put very much focus on setups). Claim aside, why would he even sign up for the game if he doesn't want to play VT, the most common role? VT is the core of the game, the power roles are the fluff (especially in games like this one with only two power roles). Side note, I've been cop/tracker twice out of three previous games, and it hasn't been particularly enjoyable for me. VT is a much more enjoyable role IMO, less pressure and you can more freely speak your mind.
It was to make a meta read on her and WarWaffle I only played 1 game with him and he seemed to be posting the same way he did in the last newbie game when he was Vet. Damdred's entrance post is all he got atm so I need to wait for a meta read on him. Although rsoultins only entrance was to vote you she didn't explain her reasoning for why she votign for you now.
rsoultin welcome to the game now why calling BS on Tfrel's post? If it's a joke vote I can maybe understand but I don't see anything totally wrong with his vote except for the fact that gerpit had not posted yet so (shrugs)
What's wrong with it is that the Trfel, before a single word was spoken...in fact practically the second the game started...decided to vote for someone because they are "intentionally playing bad". Not only has geript not posted at all in this thread, but Trfel himself has been very effective with quite minimal posts, and is usually very slow to vote or scumread people until he is sure.
It may well be a pressure vote (the second the game started!) but not only is it more aggressive than I've come to expect from him, but his explanation is inherently false which he should know based on his own play in the last two games.
Thus, BS meter.
Why would scum put the spotlight on himself from the get go for no reason?
Shit like this always looks bad but the underlying point ends up being that they don't give a fuck what they look like which is a townie trait because scum ALWAYS care what they look like due to their inherent feelings of guilt.
Do you think Trfel is scum? Cause he is my biggest town read in the game so far.
What does BS meter mean exactly? Why does Trefel's early vote fit with the mafia agenda?
It means that his explanation does not line up with what I know of him. The vote I could really care less about. I think it's preemptive but not alignment indicative. His explanation for it directly contradicts the simple fact that Trfel plays effectively with a low post count, and LS is right in that I don't think I've ever seen him policy lynch.
(Note that my vote never made it to the voting thread. I don't necessarily think he's scum but I want him to explain to me why the sudden near-180 in his play.)
This is bullshit.
You never tell someone you're doing a pressure vote because you reveal you're doing it just for pressure.
You're just trying to push him to look contributive.
I agreed with this when I read it. I see people towning rsoultin for contributing. IMO she would do this every game mafia or no. Her pressuring of Trfel is not alignment indicative. However, I feel like her pressure led discussion so I'm glad she will do this every game.
i like this post a lot. Because it shows u have a brain and know how to actually play , but nice try on the charade of stupidity u present otherwise
On January 16 2015 05:45 Damdred wrote:
Shining sleeps during the day because he works night shifts he will respond
*before game started*
On January 17 2015 14:19 Damdred wrote:
Ls is scum, shining is scum and jarjar is scum.
Easy game easy life.
my list so far
WarWaffle, Breshke, Shining