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On January 20 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 10:31 geript wrote:On January 20 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:
EBWOP:
Please also explain why you decided not to stick to the 10 posts a day phase thing, Geript, if you care to answer me. Thank you. I needed to actually talk to DP and find a good lynch. Posting is rather addictive. If trfel flips scum which...highly likely he will...your timing was unfortunate. Your 7th post was soon after my case. That is when you started posting back and forth with DP and didn't mention the case until he brought it up. To someone like me...that is suspicious when Trfel is scum. I understand that you will say that was not the reason regardless, but I'm just calling it like I see it. Who do you think is scum now?
No clue. Maybe it's because I don't see a world where DP doesn't kill me and I'm being a baddie, but that's highly unlikely imo. Like it makes a bunch of sense in a number of regards, but him allowing a GB kill is so exceptionally out of character. He doesn't wifom NKs. He'd shoot me or shoot for the other blue. JJB I still don't quite know what to do with. I need to critically read the night shit. I need to reread GB which I'm expecting he'll be as useless in death as he was in life. I need to read WW again to find exactly what else I missed on him.
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On January 20 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 10:32 geript wrote:On January 20 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
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Okay. Then it's still a bit confusing to me how Trfel earned his own special do not lynch this scum spot, but regardless of your alignment I am not going to get a different answer from you. Thanks for bearing with me.
You really get pretty steamed about being questioned. It's not personal, I hope you know. No. I don't give a fuck about being questioned. I give a fuck about being questioned for for absolutely stupid shit when any person should be able to easily read me as town. Consider it a compliment to your ability to play this game. I think you're capable of townie posts as scum. ^^
I dearly miss promethelax. People literally have no fucking clue how to read me when I'm literally the easiest get to read ever.
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On January 20 2015 09:33 geript wrote:
DP hold me. I'm in fucking ELO hell.
HAHAHA I know the feels. I felt like pointing out that if I was scum I would just bus everyone instead of call them town from the start but I can't be bothered.
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On January 20 2015 10:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2015 10:32 geript wrote:On January 20 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
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Okay. Then it's still a bit confusing to me how Trfel earned his own special do not lynch this scum spot, but regardless of your alignment I am not going to get a different answer from you. Thanks for bearing with me.
You really get pretty steamed about being questioned. It's not personal, I hope you know. No. I don't give a fuck about being questioned. I give a fuck about being questioned for for absolutely stupid shit when any person should be able to easily read me as town. Consider it a compliment to your ability to play this game. I think you're capable of townie posts as scum. ^^ I dearly miss promethelax. People literally have no fucking clue how to read me when I'm literally the easiest get to read ever.
To be fair, while I can't rule you out completely because you've done some questionable things (in my mind) I do think it highly unlikely that you'd derail a town train onto another town. As long as JJB is town, which I still believe he is, you're not on my immediate lynch list.
More like a...if no one else I think is scum flips scum I have to look at you again, sorta deal.
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On January 20 2015 10:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2015 10:32 geript wrote:On January 20 2015 10:29 rsoultin wrote:
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Okay. Then it's still a bit confusing to me how Trfel earned his own special do not lynch this scum spot, but regardless of your alignment I am not going to get a different answer from you. Thanks for bearing with me.
You really get pretty steamed about being questioned. It's not personal, I hope you know. No. I don't give a fuck about being questioned. I give a fuck about being questioned for for absolutely stupid shit when any person should be able to easily read me as town. Consider it a compliment to your ability to play this game. I think you're capable of townie posts as scum. ^^ I dearly miss promethelax. People literally have no fucking clue how to read me when I'm literally the easiest get to read ever.
I can read you bby. You are an open book to me.
How far we have come from hating each other intensely. <3
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I also think Rsoultin could easily be scum and bussed Trifel from the start.
Like without meta involved Trefels opening was objectively townie. Then rsoultin comes up with some difficult to confirm reasoning on why he is scum and now is trying to mislynch the two best townies in the game off it.
It is so transparent.
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On January 20 2015 10:53 DarthPunk wrote:
I also think Rsoultin could easily be scum and bussed Trifel from the start.
Like without meta involved Trefels opening was objectively townie. Then rsoultin comes up with some difficult to confirm reasoning on why he is scum and now is trying to mislynch the two best townies in the game off it.
It is so transparent.
Or...you can realize that I've played with Trfel more than almost anyone here, and it was his responses to my questions + his lack of any useful content that prompted the scumread.
His opening was unusual for him but fine. It was his reaction to my pressure that made me suspicious.
This two towniest town thing is getting old -_- I think you have come across as town for the most part, DP, but you and geript are probably the only ones with no doubt at all about your "towniness", even if you are both town. Sorry to break it to you.
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EBWOP:
I find an insta-pressure vote right off the block null rather than townie. I think I've already mentioned that. It is a low-risk way to get townread if you're scum. Which unless LS is lying (which I can't find a good scum reason to false claim the beginning of the day phase with a red check before lylo) seems to be exactly what happened.
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I'm back guys and honestly let's kill our confirmed scum today and try to figure out by association who is scum. Also DP me and rsoultin been playing with Tfrel since he started TL Mafia so ofc me and her had a weird reaction to his Opening and now it makes complete sense of why he opened the way he did.
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Of course we kill the confirmed scum right now.
Anyway I really agree with LS here, Trfel was so different from his first two games I played with him in no way he was town at this point. Can't really say its a bus by rsoultin
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On January 20 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back guys and honestly let's kill our confirmed scum today and try to figure out by association who is scum. Also DP me and rsoultin been playing with Tfrel since he started TL Mafia so ofc me and her had a weird reaction to his Opening and now it makes complete sense of why he opened the way he did.
I'd be surprised if there were a counterwagon, honestly, unless people are just convinced you're lying LS.
So where are you at in your reads right now?
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Scanning Trfel's filter. LM and JJB look to be the most likely mafia partners. I should've just lynched Trfel though. His flip onto GB when he had strongly townread him was odd especially after pushing LM.
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Town:
Damdred: Pretty much been confirmed at EoD of Day 1 with his actions and also had some good questioning at Day 1.
rsoultin: Good questioning and actively trying to figure out who is scum and been pushing her reads.
Geript: Really good analyse at Day 1 and went over his 10 post limit per day to try and find scum and also had some good questions towards a couple of players.
JarJarBinks: UnCCed Tracker (claimed it when he was possibly being lynched) and also claimed to be roleblocked.
The Shining: Looked really townie EoD with his questioning although he seemed to be inactive during times since he normally works at night but he had good questions and had some concern about my play at Night phase when I asked Damdred if he really claimed Doctor because I had a Tinfoil Hat Theory that if Damdred really claimed Doctor then JarJarBinks would be almost certainly Mafia but he didn't.
Null:
LoneMeow: Doesn't really have much in his filter but the last time I was unimpressed with his play was at Carol when he was the only Mason in the entire game but who knows this game.
DarthPunk: Seems very defensive towards the questions from rsoultin and me when me and rsoultin told him how Tfrel opening wasn't his normal type of opening.
Breshke: Really inactive but claimed it's because in real life stuff and hope he becomes more active. His content is pretty Ok but not worth lynching today due to finding confirmed Mafia
Mafia:
Tfrel: Had a really weird opening from his own standards and had a bunch of weird posts that he normally doesn't make when he's town and I checked him with my Cop powers and got him back as confirmed Mafia.
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This post is going to be a little rushed but I'll be able to expand on it once I'm done packing. It's one of my only days off today and I move at the end of the month.
LS Cop claim seems pretty honest. I don't see scum coming out with a blue claim at the very beginning of D2 with a red check. ##Vote:Trfel
Damdred's case on LM - it's not 100% convincing but more than enough to make me look into LM, which is something I've been meaning to do. I do see the seeming disinterest in the game which is not something I expect from Town, who should be actively trying to figure out this game. I also didn't like the switch from JJB to WW. I'm not going to quote what was already quoted but LM's posts are bare, don't really contribute to conversation and don't seem consistent. I know reads evolve as the game progresses but without any explanation, I'm not sure how you get away with a one-liner to lynch WW with misinformation, since WW voted GB before Trfel did. It looks bad that that is his last post in his filter. AFK a vote on Town at EoD and not be heard from since seems scummy.
I originally had Geript as a strong, even unlynchable townread. I'm going to rescind that for the last minute pull back from GB to WW. I need a little more time to see if Geript's post about RSo holds any weight but like I mentioned I'm a little swamped today. He isn't backing down from RSo(whose questioning I'm convinced can come from either scum or town since I know her) and although it isn't alignment indicative, it gives us more to analyze. I would think scum would eventually backtrack in fear of getting caught saying something that could be used against them.
Also, no one has really looked at the interactions between Geript and RSo besides DP from what I've read, which makes me think there is a small chance they are both actually Town. Scum sit back, let them pressure eachother, and once it's gone deep enough, pressure one or the other into a mislynch.
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On January 20 2015 11:46 geript wrote:
Scanning Trfel's filter. LM and JJB look to be the most likely mafia partners. I should've just lynched Trfel though. His flip onto GB when he had strongly townread him was odd especially after pushing LM.
But unless we get a medic claim or a tracker cc I really doubt jjb is the mafia at this point.
LM is a good shot at mafia though.
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Geript, lets say I calmed down and have taken a step back and gazed over your filters in Russian mafia and here. Im comfortable saying the anger here isn't like what happens in Russian where you are just 100% cool until you get caught by what you deem to be an imbalanced game.
I don't see you throwing doubts on people as mafia in this case, you would roll with it and bus your team mate without questioning claims I think.
I think you are towny this game, and shouldn't let my paranoia get the better of me probably.
So that leaves me with staring at (minus town reads)
Breshke
LM
geript talk to me about DP. How sure are you that hes town right here? I know you were pretty sure earlier?
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On January 20 2015 11:49 The Shining wrote:
This post is going to be a little rushed but I'll be able to expand on it once I'm done packing. It's one of my only days off today and I move at the end of the month.
LS Cop claim seems pretty honest. I don't see scum coming out with a blue claim at the very beginning of D2 with a red check. ##Vote:Trfel
Damdred's case on LM - it's not 100% convincing but more than enough to make me look into LM, which is something I've been meaning to do. I do see the seeming disinterest in the game which is not something I expect from Town, who should be actively trying to figure out this game. I also didn't like the switch from JJB to WW. I'm not going to quote what was already quoted but LM's posts are bare, don't really contribute to conversation and don't seem consistent. I know reads evolve as the game progresses but without any explanation, I'm not sure how you get away with a one-liner to lynch WW with misinformation, since WW voted GB before Trfel did. It looks bad that that is his last post in his filter. AFK a vote on Town at EoD and not be heard from since seems scummy.
I originally had Geript as a strong, even unlynchable townread. I'm going to rescind that for the last minute pull back from GB to WW. I need a little more time to see if Geript's post about RSo holds any weight but like I mentioned I'm a little swamped today. He isn't backing down from RSo(whose questioning I'm convinced can come from either scum or town since I know her) and although it isn't alignment indicative, it gives us more to analyze. I would think scum would eventually backtrack in fear of getting caught saying something that could be used against them.
Also, no one has really looked at the interactions between Geript and RSo besides DP from what I've read, which makes me think there is a small chance they are both actually Town. Scum sit back, let them pressure eachother, and once it's gone deep enough, pressure one or the other into a mislynch.
 You claimed you can read me as scum, Shining, after my first two scum games.
That said, you're right, I can still be active as scum. Probably not this active, but town would be remiss not to at least consider the possibility.
I'll be interested in your reads once you've had more time to go through everything.
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Damdred I know you played with Geript in Imperial Mafia (I was shadowing Palmar who you guys help mislynch) when he was VT does his play here so far similar to how he played in Imperial Mafia? Can you tell me any difference in his play here compared to there?
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BTW I'm still town reading him but I was just a asking a question since you had a little uncertain tone about him in your post that was all.
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On January 20 2015 11:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Town:
Damdred: Pretty much been confirmed at EoD of Day 1 with his actions and also had some good questioning at Day 1.
rsoultin: Good questioning and actively trying to figure out who is scum and been pushing her reads.
Geript: Really good analyse at Day 1 and went over his 10 post limit per day to try and find scum and also had some good questions towards a couple of players.
JarJarBinks: UnCCed Tracker (claimed it when he was possibly being lynched) and also claimed to be roleblocked.
The Shining: Looked really townie EoD with his questioning although he seemed to be inactive during times since he normally works at night but he had good questions and had some concern about my play at Night phase when I asked Damdred if he really claimed Doctor because I had a Tinfoil Hat Theory that if Damdred really claimed Doctor then JarJarBinks would be almost certainly Mafia but he didn't.
Null:
LoneMeow: Doesn't really have much in his filter but the last time I was unimpressed with his play was at Carol when he was the only Mason in the entire game but who knows this game.
DarthPunk: Seems very defensive towards the questions from rsoultin and me when me and rsoultin told him how Tfrel opening wasn't his normal type of opening.
Breshke: Really inactive but claimed it's because in real life stuff and hope he becomes more active. His content is pretty Ok but not worth lynching today due to finding confirmed Mafia
Mafia:
Tfrel: Had a really weird opening from his own standards and had a bunch of weird posts that he normally doesn't make when he's town and I checked him with my Cop powers and got him back as confirmed Mafia.
Hmm, so we've got a little under 72 hours go scumhunting for the other two, then. I think I need to take a closer look at Breshke and DP...LM's filter I've been through a few times lately.
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