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On January 19 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 05:45 geript wrote:On January 19 2015 05:44 rsoultin wrote:
Geript is dodging my queeeessstions to buddy up with DP. Hi geript. If you want to convince me you're town (and maybe you don't, but I don't know how wise a move that is) you probably shouldn't do that. ^^ If you can't read 2 of my posts and know that I'm town, then there's really nothing I could ever say that would change that. I'm buddying up to DP because he's the only good player who I'm sure is town and can get an honest opinion on. I can post 2 good posts as scum, too. Probably not as well as veterans can, but I can. I can also talk my way out of a mislynch as scum. You've shown a proclivity to ignore/not fully read wall posts yet expect people to read yours and townread you for them. I'm asking you why you keep scumreading Trfel hard, then saying he could be town, yet keeping him in both your good lynch and don't lynch piles. He is the only one you are doing that with. Saying he could be scum or town = null to me. At the very least, if you have such big reservations, why is he in your 5-man lynch pile? It's not adding up and you're refusing to clarify.
You're literally either being dense or mafia. I've covered why Trfel is in my group of good lynches multiple times now. There's literally only 1 person who I would never lynch in this game and that's DP. I maybe could write a good case on him... Maybe. There's not a single other player in this game who I don't have reasons to find as being mafia. Overall, I take the good and the bad I have on a player and weigh them. If you don't like that, then I have no qualms about ramrodding a lynch in either your or JJB's direction just out of spite.
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On January 19 2015 05:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah that makes sense I guess GB.
Like it's not particularly convincing but It's not incorrect either.
yah.
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On January 19 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad you asked me dp, I am lazy and think your obvious town. I don't see you being Scum nor a lynch so I'm ignoring your filter because I read you in thread as town.
Geript is pretty town, if he's alive after d2 and no roles claim he's pulling a Russian mafia but he looks super towny
LS is town based on hi a addiction to meta as town.
Jjb is mafia I think
Why do you think DP is obvious town? Like I've played a billion games with DP and without that I'd probably be all up in his butt for his LS read, his townread on me, not really wanting to lynch GB.
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Also, I don't think Damdred was townreading LS for addiction to meta previously. lemme check.
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On January 19 2015 06:03 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2015 05:58 geript wrote:On January 19 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2015 05:45 geript wrote:On January 19 2015 05:44 rsoultin wrote:
Geript is dodging my queeeessstions to buddy up with DP. Hi geript. If you want to convince me you're town (and maybe you don't, but I don't know how wise a move that is) you probably shouldn't do that. ^^ If you can't read 2 of my posts and know that I'm town, then there's really nothing I could ever say that would change that. I'm buddying up to DP because he's the only good player who I'm sure is town and can get an honest opinion on. I can post 2 good posts as scum, too. Probably not as well as veterans can, but I can. I can also talk my way out of a mislynch as scum. You've shown a proclivity to ignore/not fully read wall posts yet expect people to read yours and townread you for them. I'm asking you why you keep scumreading Trfel hard, then saying he could be town, yet keeping him in both your good lynch and don't lynch piles. He is the only one you are doing that with. Saying he could be scum or town = null to me. At the very least, if you have such big reservations, why is he in your 5-man lynch pile? It's not adding up and you're refusing to clarify. You're literally either being dense or mafia. I've covered why Trfel is in my group of good lynches multiple times now. There's literally only 1 person who I would never lynch in this game and that's DP. I maybe could write a good case on him... Maybe. There's not a single other player in this game who I don't have reasons to find as being mafia. Overall, I take the good and the bad I have on a player and weigh them. If you don't like that, then I have no qualms about ramrodding a lynch in either your or JJB's direction just out of spite. Okay, don't explain why he's the special pool straddler; that's fine. Spite voting is so townie  So am I to understand that your purpose for buddying up to DP has nothing to do with the fact that before you started he said your opinion was the only opinion he gave a flying fuck about?
I have no clue why you're distracting me from doing something useful here. I've played with DP a bunch. I was a major reason why he was the last man standing in a VS game where I correctly read Rayn as town, I pushed mafia all D1 and acceded from my own spectacular case on one mafia to an ok case on another mafia while retracting a previous townread on DP. He knows I'm a good player. I know he's a good player; I've seen him hold together good lynches while numerous bad lynches are sprouting up left and right. Damdred's an up and comer. The two of us are quite literally the only "names" in this game. Like BH isn't even really a "name" anymore because he hosts too much and is more interested in doing silly stuff than playing actual mafia. Welcome to the world outside of the kiddy pool. If you want to be recognized as a good player, you need to prove it.
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@DP What do you think of LM.
I reread Shining's filter, I don't think I want to lynch him either. So one of my townreads is surely wrong unless it's a mafia team of like LM/JJB/GB. That doesn't quite feel right.
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##Unvote
##vote WarWaffle
I'd feel really bad if this guy got mislynched 2 games in a row, but actually open his filter and read it here. There are a few things that really stick out to me. None of his reads change. In my notes, I've also noted that none of his reads stick out from general thread sentiment either.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 18 2015 06:54 TheWarWaffle wrote:
For my top 3 of mafia: GlowingBear, Trfel, and possibly one of the lurkers. I think that the parallels between both GB and Trfel's beginning posts (both post something considered controversial by others; both posts are later deemed unsatisfactory for either alignment; both can bow rest easy that they were both in the spotlight early, something that Mafia almost certainly wan to avoid... But if done right, can cement 2 mafia members as town for the rest of the game... Unless they can prove otherwise, of course.
Not enough information: Breshke, LoneMeow, and The Shining have not posted enough to determine alignment as of my current read-through. Anyone who suggests otherwise is denying that they are policy lynches... Something not recommended for day 1.
Town leaning: rsoultin, jarjarbinks, geript, DarthPunk, and Damdred. These people have either asked questions that needed to be asked, acted similarly to other games where they were town, or have otherwise contributed to the discussion without posting a dead-end theory.
Special: LightningStrike. No idea. Not even going to bother.
This post stuck out to me because of the GB/Trfel read. It's a summary read; he's not actually giving his own opinion but rather just summarizing what he think of what the thread says. That suggests insecurity to me especially has he's shown he's quite capable of making good obvservastions himself.
+ Show Spoiler +[QUOTE]On January 18 2015 12:11 TheWarWaffle wrote:
Trfel: Beginning the game with a policy vote, on one of the most veteran players, makes no sense from a town perspective. His concerns regarding LS seem odd considering he always posts this way. Indeed, many of Trfel's meta-reads are effectively useless. I don't know why he would be making meta-reads based on the fact that he is playing completely different than his previous game. There is a great deal of fluff in almost all of his posts if one looks close enough... excessive repetition of known facts, lengthening of paragraphs with "purple prose", etc.
GlowingBear: First posts of the game are completely worthless. No reason to post most of them. He accuses Trfel of making bad posts repeatedly, and then through one aggressive comment attacking rsoultin's accusation, GB suddenly finds Trfel the towniest of town. Most of GB's posts promote discussion and point fingers without making any substantial claims. Most of my suspicion of GB comes from a lack of reasoning for his actions; a disconnect between why he posts what he did. If that does not explain what is wrong with his posts then I doubt I can quantify it.He is my number 2 mafia suspect as of now.
Note that both Trfel and GlowingBear push accusations towards either inactive or lurking players, and just as quickly take them back.
I believe that through my evidence and the evidence provided by others such as rsoultin and geript, Trfel is the best lynch candidate at this time, though GlowingBear is a close second. I am unsure as to who the final mafia is at this moment.
##Vote: Trfel
Again nothing changes. Like he's saying that there's good evidence from others, but doesn't actually bring any of that up. If he really thinks that he's not supporting his opinion at all. Additionally, WW seems to read people as town based on promoting discussion or adding to discussion.
I'd make a longer case but gogogogogogogo
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Trust me people like 100%. I'm pretty sure that I gave a bad townread for being jovial and missed the whole thing.
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DP, GB might actually be town here. That's why I've been looking at other lynches. Reminded me of me in Imperial.
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I don't hate a JJB lynch, but we do need to lynch WW
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On January 19 2015 06:53 Damdred wrote:
Geript vote jarjar to save GB then
Or you could help me lynch WW
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5 minutes people. Go lynch WW
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On January 19 2015 06:55 Damdred wrote:
I am on mafia I think Geript
You might be, but there's a much better chance I'm on mafia.
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Yah, or you could just lynch WW like I want to
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On January 19 2015 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:
WHAT MORE DID YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS GUY IS TOWN FFS
thank you for yet another unexplained useless read
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On January 19 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote:
Medic protect jarjar.
Or wifom whatever, shining I most mafia in the thread.
That's actually quite incorrect play.
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EPT
