EPTShinings cote was horrible he said he was in between me and lm voting tried to hammer gb. And caught jarjar slip about the setup
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Damdred
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Shinings cote was horrible he said he was in between me and lm voting tried to hammer gb. And caught jarjar slip about the setup | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 19 2015 06:46 Trfel wrote: GlowingBear Earlier in the game I brought up the disconnect between GlowingBear's thread comments and his reads. I asked several questions to him, and he answered all of them except for that one. It seems like he is trying to make it look like he is reading the thread and making reads, but the two aren't related together. I do like his post analysis, and I didn't mind his early reads, but the lack of unity was strange. The post about coming after lurkers seems bad, and I don't see him doing much about lurkers at all. In fact, his reads have been all over the place. I wouldn't say that he has been really coming after anyone, but dropping his reads and making new reads. His push on geript strikes me as particularly strange. At this point, geript is coming across as pretty strongly town, so that makes no sense at all. He's basically scummed everyone at some point this game. Like I said, his case on Damdred makes absolutely no sense. Especially when he retracted it and emphatically stated that Damdred is town for little apparent reason. GlowingBear has also been using a crazy amount of OMGUS this game. I don't like it at all. ##Unvote ##Vote: GlowingBear This case on me is also convoluted and his vote on me only got traction when I was about to be mislynched. His vote was BEFORE this case and a lot of things doesn't make me mafia. Specially the OMGUS part. OMGUS is more likely to be town paranoia than mafia behaviour. But the thing is: I was COMPLETELY tunnelled on Holyflare in Christmas Carol and I was town, and Trfel was there. This guy is definetely mafia. | ||
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Trfel
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On January 19 2015 07:16 GlowingBear wrote: This is the one of the biggest proofs why Trfel is scum. He didn't want to lynch Jar jar for being newbie but he was okay to lynch waffle who was also mislynched day1 in his previous game. You could never accept lynching war waffle. I already explained why I wanted to lynch TheWarWaffle. I couldn't understand how he got his reads, his logic seemed terrible. I did not blame it on him being a newbie because last game I could follow his logic, and he showed some good thinking and more effort than this game. Meanwhile, jarjarbinks showed the exact opposite. He played much better on D1 this game than last game. Along with input from rsoultin, he looked like a poor lynch. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On January 19 2015 07:17 Damdred wrote: Good find GB. Shinings cote was horrible he said he was in between me and lm voting tried to hammer gb. And caught jarjar slip about the setup This makes no sense at all, because he was between you and LM and you were scumreading LM right? But then, he voted me, who was scumreading you. This guy really believe in busses or he is mafia. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 19 2015 07:21 GlowingBear wrote: This case on me is also convoluted and his vote on me only got traction when I was about to be mislynched. His vote was BEFORE this case and a lot of things doesn't make me mafia. Specially the OMGUS part. OMGUS is more likely to be town paranoia than mafia behaviour. But the thing is: I was COMPLETELY tunnelled on Holyflare in Christmas Carol and I was town, and Trfel was there. This guy is definetely mafia. Wait, how is my vote BEFORE the case? My vote is RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CASE YOU QUOTED. Yes, in Carol of the Bells you were completely tunneled on Holyflare. Here, you are flying all over the place and scumreading everyone. In Carol of the Bells, you nearly got Holyflare lynched, so I'd say that was pretty effective. Here, you had basically no following on your reads. I need to take a break, but you still look like scum to me. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On January 19 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote: I already explained why I wanted to lynch TheWarWaffle. I couldn't understand how he got his reads, his logic seemed terrible. I did not blame it on him being a newbie because last game I could follow his logic, and he showed some good thinking and more effort than this game. Meanwhile, jarjarbinks showed the exact opposite. He played much better on D1 this game than last game. Along with input from rsoultin, he looked like a poor lynch. Terrible logic doesn't make him mafia. His aggressive stance on me makes him town. In the other hand, Jar Jars reluctance to give scumreads was really suspicious. I thought he was genuine but after re reading his filter, he looked very passive. Your defense on jar jar was you saying that he was new and played poorly the other newbie game. That's all! | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Shining is caught I think, gotta figure out if tr is mafia and the last. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
He's very disinterested in the game IMO. | ||
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Damdred
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The Shining
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My vote was and always has been between GB and LM. Why are you misrepresenting a statement that I said directly to you? On January 19 2015 06:18 The Shining wrote: Damdred - I don't really like your last few posts either. GB brought a weak case against you and tried to push you and although you defended yourself, you went the extra step to say he is probably Town for this? You yourself said scum likes to paint townies as townies for free cred. You're also not sure who you want to lynch and haven't voted. I haven't, either, but I've already said I wanted to vote GB or LM. Are you just going to try to jump on the safest wagon? I wanna give you benefit of the doubt but I'm not sure I can. I'll be even more suspicious of you if GB gets flipped Town today after you town him, with more than a few players scumreading him or questioning his play. The fact that you quickly Towned him after saying you might be able to lynch him was off. I told you why I thought it was off. Scum are the only ones who know alignments. But seriously, pretending I said I was in between you and LM when I never did? All I did was cast suspicion on you, which I only have more of now, because I was looking for a 3rd scum member. Do I have to point out the fact that you were townreading me up until I questioned you giving GB a pass for unexplained reads and a weak meta case against you? If he flips scum, I wouldn't be surprised if you did, too, and vice versa. Regardless, though, you didn't scum me until I started questioning you. Even went so far as to lie. I don't like it. JJ and GB parroting your thoughts on this make it worse, since 3 is an important number here. Are you telling me all 3 of you couldn't bother to check my 1 page filter and see that I was in between LM and GB, not LM and Damdred? It doesn't seem to be asking a lot. | ||
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Damdred
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I didn't mean to ill rethink this | ||
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rsoultin
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GlowingBear
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On January 19 2015 07:43 The Shining wrote: Damdred + GB, how about you actually read my posts? GB this is now the 3rd time you've either ignored or misread one of my posts. Am I not making myself clear? My vote was and always has been between GB and LM. Why are you misrepresenting a statement that I said directly to you? The fact that you quickly Towned him after saying you might be able to lynch him was off. I told you why I thought it was off. Scum are the only ones who know alignments. But seriously, pretending I said I was in between you and LM when I never did? All I did was cast suspicion on you, which I only have more of now, because I was looking for a 3rd scum member. Do I have to point out the fact that you were townreading me up until I questioned you giving GB a pass for unexplained reads and a weak meta case against you? If he flips scum, I wouldn't be surprised if you did, too, and vice versa. Regardless, though, you didn't scum me until I started questioning you. Even went so far as to lie. I don't like it. JJ and GB parroting your thoughts on this make it worse, since 3 is an important number here. Are you telling me all 3 of you couldn't bother to check my 1 page filter and see that I was in between LM and GB, not LM and Damdred? It doesn't seem to be asking a lot. Hammering me was bad. Really bad. Unfortunately I lived. | ||
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The Shining
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QUOTE]On January 19 2015 06:27 The Shining wrote: On January 19 2015 06:11 GlowingBear wrote: I'm also burning out. And what question are you talking about? I may have not seen it. If you think I'm not pressuring damdred enough, I don't know what to say. My filter is painfully small, this shouldn't have been hard to find. Not reading thread? On January 18 2015 13:01 The Shining wrote: GB - Another null, but leaning scum. I don't know you and my first impression was this guy is drinking beer and on TL. Only a diehard townie would do such a thing. However, reading your filter showed me how wrong I might be. Numerous one liners, unexplained reads, going from questioning Trfels opening as his prior coach of his to "definitely Town." You keep going at the lurkers and although I do agree lurking and inactivity is suspicious, I also believe that if scum is actively posting, it would be low hanging fruit for them to push a quiet or inactive Townie. There is nothing clearly indicating to me whether you are scumhunting or mislynching. One of the only things I found myself agreeing with you on was LS's BS meter question being pointless and getting him nowhere. However, in past town games of his I dove and the last Newbie, he doesn't fear saying and asking what is on his mind, even something as trivial as that. If anything, it rings more towny to me that he is literally spewing out whatever on his mind as soon as it enters his mind, as a town coach told me to do this once upon a time. You apparently have played with LS before(correct me if I'm wrong) so I expected you would see this before I did. Unless you don't want to see it? . Also, where did I say you weren't pressuring him enough? I just said the case was weak, not the pressure. You've been pushing your case hard even after it was picked apart but it doesn't make it any stronger. It also does strike me as odd that you basically abandoned your Geript scumread with no explanation. Even now as RSo pokes at him, I'm not seeing you run with it. [/QUOTE] You also didn't address the fact that you were ready to sheep Damdred's misinformed interpretation of who my vote was between. I definitely do not like the banding together you guys are doing. It is almost as troubling as how blatantly you're avoiding me. Except for this: On January 19 2015 06:43 GlowingBear wrote: There are your scums showing their faces. Lynch TheShining. Period. For scumming you? For voting you? You've done nothing to convince me you are town and even less in the way of responding to any thing I say to you. You felt more scummy to me than WW, which is why my vote stayed. This feels more OMGUS than anything. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Why not trying to lynch your strongest scumread? I still don't know which question you're talking about but fine, I'm gonna have dinner and comment every single post of your damn filter. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Its a bit moot now when there has been so much content since then but the question very simply was why you felt it necessary to dedicate an entire post to saying LS asking what's a BS meter was pointless when of all people, it is LS. Had you just answered, this would be done but your unwillingness to interact with me is just unsettling to me. The longer you went without responding to me or even acknowledging me, the more confusing it was. And again. The misrepresentation. Verbage is key when you're trying to pressure someone and you are using misinformed terms. I did not CHANGE my vote. My first and only vote was for you. I did try to push my scummiest scumread. It was you. I said that last night when I was asked who I would and wouldnt lynch. My very first read on you was one of the only ones leaning scum and I'll say again, you've shown me nothing that would definitively have me change my read on you. I voted you when I "didnt have to" because I was confident you would flip scum. Isn't that the goal of lynching? Everything you've done recently, from your Damdred push to falling back, to dropping the Geript pressure, to just throwing out a bunch of names that you want to see lynched(more than 3 names makes me think you don't care who dies), I can see coming from an unsure Town as well as a cornered scum with some experience. None of it yells town at me. For those of you that are strong towning GB, maybe you can help me see why? Damdred? LS? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Oh and that menacing post. Unfortunately you lived? That sounds pretty threatening and defensive for a Townie. If you're town, I'm glad you lived. If you're scum, I'm pissed we missed a shot at a D1 scumlynch. | ||
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Damdred
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On January 19 2015 09:32 Damdred wrote: Usually Scum wouldn't unvote and let themselves be the vote leader with a few minutes left. ^ I had no scum motive to Unvote damdred and let me be the leading lynch. Simple fact number 2. | ||
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Damdred
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