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On January 23 2015 09:25 jarjarbinks wrote: Do you think this correlates with how Rsoultin went after Trfel so hard so early? No not really because im reading RSo as town and speculating on how the mafia team would act isnt really a reason to reconsider that. Like they might bus more but they might also just hard defend because wifom. Why do you ask this do you have other reasons to think she is mafia? | ||
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On January 23 2015 10:29 geript wrote: I'll need to double check a few things but I don't hate those points on Shining. What things do you need to double check? | ||
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This game still feels dead. Have your feelings changed at all about DP? | ||
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On January 23 2015 15:20 DarthPunk wrote: I said before that I thought LM looked townie for a few of his posts, That hasn't changed just because the thread collectively decided he was scum. Also he seems to be putting in effort. And trying to solve the game. Like I could be wrong. But I just prefer a Shining lynch. I don't get the impression that he is trying to solve the game at all he has four nulls and i don't see anywhere that he is trying to work out their alignments. | ||
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On January 19 2015 13:57 Damdred wrote: I'm somewhat breaking my promise about not doing a ton of quotes in a post but i'm going to hide them behind spoilers to make readability better. Going into EoD, I had a few problems with LM. These problems were mainly, a disconnect from the game. The catch up posts were incredibly behind and out of context they looked ok but in context seemed really disjoined and didn't flow well with the thread. Wasn't really interested in interactions much going into the day either. I decided to look into EoD for LM and a few thing struck out at me. The last quote in the spoilers is interesting to me, the vote hinges on WW voting with his scum read on tr. When if you check the votes and pay attention WW was on GB well before Tr even made a move that way. So it was an excuse to strengthen a mislynch which is telling to me, why lie and over explain your vote? At the start of the quotes (previously jarjar was only mentioned twice and never was really sure if it was a scum read or what but was non committal) Asks why wouldn't you lynch jarjar, makes some noncommittal marks about somewhat scum reading me because it looks like my train is about to take off. Next quote is a inconsitancy as LM never said that he didn't want to vote Jarjar, and also I think the train was going against GB and it was better to say I shouldn't be the lynch at this moment. Overall it looks like someone just trying to find a safe spot for a vote, lying and over explaining everything while not really trying to rock the vote while parroting at points to. pretty sure this person is scum. Quotes are in filter + Show Spoiler + On January 19 2015 03:45 LoneMeow wrote: Definitely not lynching LightningStrike today. Why not jarjarbinks? As a matter of fact, I do agree with that, but I want to hear your reasons. I need to reread Damdred and geript. On January 19 2015 06:47 LoneMeow wrote: Not lynching Damdred today unless there's something new on him, I quickly read his filter and I think he's more likely town than not. I prefer jarjarbinks over GlowingBear despite what I said earlier about not wanting to lynch him today. jarjarbinks just seems to be making apologies and sitting in the background whereas GlowingBear is very vocally pushing for his lynch. ##Vote: jarjarbinks On January 19 2015 06:57 LoneMeow wrote: Wait, TheWarWaffle was actually voting with his previous best scum read Trfel? Yeah I'm ok with lynching him. ##Unvote ##Vote: TheWarWaffle | ||
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On January 23 2015 16:04 DarthPunk wrote: Being careful means you care what people think of you which is a scum trait. I think some newbie towns are also careful with what they say not that anyone should get a pass for being new. What do you think of me and RSo DP? Especially me, you seem more inclined to think LM is town and he scum reads me do you agree? | ||
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On January 23 2015 16:13 DarthPunk wrote: Everything you say seems to make sense on the surface but you aren't in my town pile as much as geript and Rso. Fair enough. I just don't get your LM read that much then because you say he is trying to solve the game but all he has done recently is make cases on me. It lead me to believe you were agreeing with him but apparently not so much? | ||
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On January 23 2015 20:54 DarthPunk wrote: I also am paranoid that everyone in the game seems to be on the LM wagon aside from me which means scum has to be on his wagon, and I have no idea why scum would bus straight after losing trifel. Yeah this has been in the back of my mind as well but i don't see how anyone could defend LM here. Yeah looking at his case on me i think it addresses good points about me not actually evaluating his play properly but other than that there is nothing. I really don't think he will flip town. What is the thing you like about the shinings post i forfeit my chance at a cookie. @Theshining could you explain why you think DP is town? | ||
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So noone cc'd on D!. Then D2 LS came out. Mafia couldn't CC him there (other than trefel) Because that would have been a two for one. Also anyone cc'ing JJB that day would have also looked bad because the obvious play would have been just to wait for D3 because one you get another chance at a check if tracker or a possible save is doc. D3 comes along and LS was killed which confirms there is no medic because anyone trying to explain why they wouldn't be saving LS there would have a hard time. So they can't claim doctor and they cant claim cop so they would have to directly cc JJB. This would elad to a couple questions, One why they didn't CC D1 and two why JJB has been getting roleblocked every night. Also the fact that we still have a misslynch before mylo means at best for them we lynch JJB first then them sending their partner into final 3. Basically what im saying is that i do think the plan was for someone to CC some form of power role but LS's red check put a spanner in the works and didn't allow the play to happen. That is probably why GB was killed because killing JJB obviously confirms him thus not allowing a CC. Also because of this i don't see how geript voicing his doubt on the roles achieves anything if he is scum. There is no chance anyone was going to actually not believe JJB until there is a CC and that CC wasn't going to happen for the reasons i just explained. | ||
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On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote: So let's do logic for a second. We know we have a cop. We know that JJB claimed tracker. - If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now. - If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake. Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker. Yeah I agree. I don't see how it is scummy of geript to doubt this. Useless maybe but not exactly scummy more like null because i don't see what he gains either way. | ||
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On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote: But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases. How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best. | ||
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On January 24 2015 08:37 geript wrote: Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective. Yeah exactly you wouldn't CC until the D3 which is today. For a medic CC to be believable LS would have had to not die in the night because the doc would obviously save him. This means that the RB would have to be on LS. Therefore they can't RB JJB and they can't kill him (because then the medic CC makes no sense unless LS outs a partner) So they leave JJB alive without role blocking him which is bad for them. Also considering we have a misslynch before mylo we always kill the scum there so at worst we are in mylo. This isn't a good situation for them since our roles are useless anyway because of the RBer. I don't really think talking about this anymore is useful really. So Geript, say LM flips scum and damdred is lynched and flips town. Who do you then want to lynch? | ||
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Forgot to do this. | ||
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On January 24 2015 09:45 Damdred wrote: Ok prediction, rs dies tonight or Tommorow with jarjar the following day or tonight leaving a final of. Geript dp, shining, Breske. That is scary Why do you assume you are going to be lynched? | ||
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I don't understand DP's play. People have been saying him and LM could be a team even geript who had been townreading him. He then continues to defend LM seemingly without really thinking about it or analyzing it. As town i would think he would be more careful and actually look into it properly as people already think they are a team and think LM is probable scum, even geript. I get this weird sense that he wants that he wants to look like he is aligned with LM because none really seems to be considering him a possible scum outside of that team. | ||
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