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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 21:39 GMT
#1394
So Damdred's back to lying. Except when he's being honest. He's failed in appearing towny. That's not that hard to do when you don't roll town though.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 22:20 GMT
#1396
On January 24 2015 07:12 Damdred wrote:
Can't wait to flip town and I hope the town lynched Geript as my last wish

Lol. Next game maybe. With as often as you roll red it might be 2-3 more.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 22:41 GMT
#1398
I had a random thought. Why didn't they just kill JJB? They know the setup. Why didn't they kill him on N1? Like no one has claimed anything else. If there's not a medic, then every NK goes through.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 22:42 GMT
#1399
On January 24 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
Since I'm town that doesn't matter

Since you're so sure of that lets test that theory.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 22:49 GMT
#1401
On January 24 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 07:41 geript wrote:
I had a random thought. Why didn't they just kill JJB? They know the setup. Why didn't they kill him on N1? Like no one has claimed anything else. If there's not a medic, then every NK goes through.


Where you headed with this?

Idk if anywhere honestly. Just weird that they leave a confirmed town around. I get the argument of who it is and they have to kill him at some point. This far into D3 they can't even CC him. Plus the GB kill as really bad. It almost gets me thinking that all the mafia team is inexperienced with dealing with endgame situations. So maybe it could be LM/Shining or similar. It feels important. I wish I knew why though.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 22:56 GMT
#1404
But if they had someone ready to CC on D2 then why not claim medic at start of D3? Like it makes no sense.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 23:21 GMT
#1413
On January 24 2015 08:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 07:56 geript wrote:
But if they had someone ready to CC on D2 then why not claim medic at start of D3? Like it makes no sense.


geript, explain to me how it makes sense that JJB is scum this game. that is where this line of questioning ends.

It doesn't. I'm not even arguing that. I'm saying it's really weird that they would keep him around. Like if you weren't planning on CC'ing him, then you might as well kill him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 23:24 GMT
#1415
On January 24 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
So let's do logic for a second.

We know we have a cop.

We know that JJB claimed tracker.
- If he's scum and there's a real tracker, that tracker should have countered him by now.
- If he's scum and there's a real doc, the doc should have countered by now because LS' flip revealed the fake.

Unless our blue is friggin retarded this game, JJB is the real tracker.

That's not the question. The question is:
1. Mafia know town has cop/tracker
2. Mafia keeps tracker around seemingly planning to CC JJB
3. Don't ever CC JJB
Why? It tells me that mafia aren't really familiar with setups like this and are likely less experienced and less involved. Which points more towards 3 newer players.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 23:25 GMT
#1416
On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive.

But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 23 2015 23:37 GMT
#1421
On January 24 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive.

But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases.


How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best.

Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:13 GMT
#1427
On January 24 2015 08:53 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:37 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:25 geript wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:24 rsoultin wrote:
Bresh is right. Scum probably did plan to CC originally but LS' red check threw it off. LS is the obvious kill Night 2. I don't find it significant that JJB is still alive.

But if they were planning to CC his check, it's just as good to CC on D3 as it is on D2. Like it's actually better in many cases.


How is it better. They just trade 1 for 1 still at best.

Pretend you're medic right. Someone claims cop with a tracker already claimed; you know one is lying. So if you lynch the redcheck, you learn which one is lying and who to put the save on at night. So not only would you not CC JJB's claim, you also wouldn't CC LS' claim. In the same way as mafia, same rules apply except that they have to claim being rb'd. Perhaps they were intending to CC JJB's tracker claim directly, but that's less likely to be effective.


Hmm I don't understand this... So LS red checks trfel. Trfel flips scum so if this imaginary medic were real, then the medic would therefore save LS. LS died so that means medic isn't around...right?

I would think it would be smarter to try to save LS and see if no deaths occur over most likely getting your cop killed just to "double check" that his red check wasn't mafia trying to sway everyone. Worst case you lose tracker and know a mafia. Best case you save cop and know mafia. Definitely worth the risk in my mind because Cop>Tracker.

Well, if there Cop claims a red check that flips red and there's no NK, then that would generally mean that the Tracker claim is false. The point is that there are two contrasting plays that were made (or not):
1. GB (a claimed vt) is killed, JJB (a claimed tracker) is not killed
2. There is no counterclaim against JJB

Like you don't kill a vt who's generally read as town but is ineffective instead of killing a confirmed town that you don't intend to CC. Like that's insanity.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:14 GMT
#1428
On January 24 2015 09:01 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 08:37 rsoultin wrote:
On January 24 2015 08:00 jarjarbinks wrote:
##Vote: LM

I think they are keeping me around because I am less value to town than the rest of VT's. I am a confirmed town but that's it. I haven't really helped town at all because I suck at this game. If I wasn't tracker I would have been dead day 1.

If I was mafia, I would keep the tracker like that too.

I'm guessing they are banking on me getting reads wrong and mislynching people to the end. It's pretty humbling, but that's my guess on their strategy.


I just think that you have trouble getting read as town, bro. After this game we can definitely talk about that if you want. ^^ Easier lynches tend to be kept around because scum needs town to mislynch.

Give me your thoughts? The JarJar brain juices help me think lol.


Actually, someone's post on how killing LS before me made more sense than my argument for keeping me alive. Having a 100% town is pretty helpful, despite my not so good reads sometimes lol

I'm uncertain on the damdred vs geript battle going on... if one of those was scum, which one would u choose?

I'd choose Damdred. I may be slightly biased. It's possible that Damdred is just playing badly. In the least he deserves to die for thinking I'm mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:27 GMT
#1431
That leaves like JJB, rsoulin, Breshke, DP. With 2 lynches there'd essentially be 2 KP, so JJB and someone. It would actually depend a decent amount on who got the second NK. I'd guess DP at that point, but honestly idk. Like that assumes a bunch of things that can't be known unless you're mafia.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:42 GMT
#1435
I probably didn't write that the clearest. I'd guess I'd lynch DP then, but it would depend on the second NK (JJB presumably being the first NK).
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:43 GMT
#1436
On January 24 2015 09:41 Damdred wrote:
But seriously that's not a real answer. You have to have someone you are Scum reading past me

Not really. Palmer has taught me that 90% of the people who call me mafia are actually mafia. So you must die for your lack of faith in our hero and savior Geript Christ.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:45 GMT
#1439
It'd be between LM and DP likely, but I honestly don't actually care about the third right now. Like if LM flips town, then it's Damdred + rso/bre; if he flips mafia it's DP. Or at least that's the likelihood in both situations.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:46 GMT
#1440
I keep on forgetting about Shining.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:47 GMT
#1442
I'm going to laugh if it's Shining/LM. It would make a decent amount of sense.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:52 GMT
#1446
Meh. Killing lurkers ain't bad. Not sure I want to vote with Damdred though.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 24 2015 00:54 GMT
#1447
Plus. He still hasn't apologized and worshiped at the feet of our lord and savior Geript Christ. How does one expect to be forgiven without doing so. Repent now!!!
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