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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 05 2015 19:58 GMT
#58
Oh ffs fine.

/in

But it's not because I like you or anything.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2015 21:49 GMT
#89
##vote lightningstrike

For a generic useless opener.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2015 22:24 GMT
#124
##unvote
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2015 22:26 GMT
#128
I feel a fanboy war coming on.

I'll just chill on the sidelines for this one.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 06 2015 22:39 GMT
#135
On January 07 2015 07:36 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 07:25 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote:
I really don't think this is relevant.

So anyway LS why did you seem to take oats and edens "joke" posts so seriously but just skimmed over mine in which i infer you and SL are scum. It makes me think you were purposely overreacting.

Can you explain what about it makes you think the overreaction is purposeful? I don't really see the motive for doing something like that intentionally.


It is really based in nothing but so LS overreacts to something. Various people tell him to not take it seriously and when he posts about it again he seems to still be taking it seriously.

I post something dumb inferring him and SL are scum and he doesn't even respond to it so i can only assume he isn't taking it seriously. There is a chance he didn't even see it but he seems eager to play so i assume he is reading every post.

There is clearly a different reaction here hence why I think he could easily be faking it. As to why he would fake it is because i think LS is very aware of his own meta and taking everything seriously would align more with how he plays as town.


So he's scum because he's playing to his town meta?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 04:28 GMT
#184
This is probably not going to be a high postcount game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 04:39 GMT
#185
Also I'm sorry to hear that LS.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 04:39 GMT
#186
(I probably should have said that part first but it's fine.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 05:12 GMT
#190
Bunnies seems town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 17:33 GMT
#251
On January 08 2015 02:28 batsnacks wrote:
So do I need to liven things up a bit or...?


Please do.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 18:54 GMT
#256
On January 08 2015 03:17 batsnacks wrote:
SL on a scale of 1-10 how scummy is HTS?


Why does this matter?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 18:57 GMT
#257
On January 08 2015 02:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Yea liancourt could actually legit be scum after that last post, besides that I see nothing fishy. Probably 1 scum hasn't posted yet and the other is blending in well.


I'm going to need you to substantiate this a little bit, plx.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 18:58 GMT
#258
Mderg's vote is really useless.

I don't see the purpose in telling someone that you're going to pressure them by voting them. Kind of nonsensical. All it means is that people are going to ignore your vote and you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 19:24 GMT
#260
On January 08 2015 03:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Mderg's vote is really useless.

I don't see the purpose in telling someone that you're going to pressure them by voting them. Kind of nonsensical. All it means is that people are going to ignore your vote and you.


Actually, I'm going to change my mind on this read.

I want liancourt and mderg to talk more.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 19:24 GMT
#261
To each other, specifically.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 19:36 GMT
#263
This inactivity is making me lose my mind.

And I'm probably the laziest guy here.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 20:30 GMT
#272
On January 08 2015 05:21 batsnacks wrote:
Fight me OWS

U scum bro

Come at me


wot

U WOT

##vote batsnacks
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 20:47 GMT
#278
Curse you batsnacks.

Curse youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 20:50 GMT
#279
I don't actually see the point of SL's case tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 20:53 GMT
#281
You're my partner.

Duh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:06 GMT
#283
I can't magic the game more active, yo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:06 GMT
#284
Though fwiw, I do like that post you wrote.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:16 GMT
#287
On January 08 2015 06:09 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:03 batsnacks wrote:
How do you complain about activity levels when you haven't posted anything useful or given a single read?

You won't even respond seriously when I've given you something legitimately worth responding to.


To be fair, there is not much readable content, not much, but some. So OWS, comment on the people who have already posted.


Therein lies the problem. Nobody is really posting, so all I can do is prod people to post more.

I could say how everybody who posted so far looks town, but that doesn't really help us now does it?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:25 GMT
#289
Actually, I had questions about batsnacks up until this so I think he's okay for now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:27 GMT
#291
On January 08 2015 06:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Also I looked at sicklucker again after rereading my nighttime exchange with him in n1 of Imperial, and I don't think he slipped here after all. He has a tendency to say things that could be interpreted as slips out of carelessness, and you have to be mindful when reading him. Like in Imperial he ostensibly changed his rationale for moving his votes during d1 when I questioned him at two different points, but when I dug into it further it was just a derpy play rather than a legit slip. It should be noted that Imperial is ongoing, and so I could have misread him in that game and he could be mafia, but I think he's town there and I'm seeing the same pattern of behavior.

##UNVOTE

Pretty sure right now I could kill anyone outside of Obi, bunnies, batsnacks and sicklucker though.


Might want to add LS to that list tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:31 GMT
#292
Specifically because I thought his earlier rambling about off topic stuff was lending him this sort of transparency which I find more likely from town.

It's not a super strong read but it's enough to get me to leave him alone for the moment.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:35 GMT
#294
On January 08 2015 06:27 Eden1892 wrote:
I'm okay with him b/c I'm making a lazy meta read where he's more invested in this game than he was in Imperial. (He was vt in Imperial and his apathy d1 got him lynched, so it seems like he's aiming to avoid that mistake.) If anyone has mafia priors on him and can comment then feel free.


I actually have a problem with this read.

I don't see why he wouldn't do this as either alignment so I don't know how it could affect your opinion of him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:37 GMT
#295
We aren't doing anything with thrawn until he comes back and contributes.

I refuse to give a read on him until he follows up with what he was saying.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2015 21:43 GMT
#296
I'm going to work.

I'll be back later tonight.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 01:44 GMT
#353
Can you guys stop calling me mafia every time I go to work?

Literally every game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 01:45 GMT
#354
And anybody taking what batsnacks says seriously needs to check their life and realize that batsnacks will do anti town shit just to amuse himself.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 03:54 GMT
#370
On January 08 2015 12:29 sicklucker wrote:
Hey obi and bats remember the last time you guys did this on day one? Oh ya you were both town.


No?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 04:13 GMT
#378
On January 08 2015 13:11 sicklucker wrote:
Oats filter is already double his carol of the bell filter where he was scum. Better not lynch him today


lol
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 04:14 GMT
#380
I'm not actually making fun of you, I just think it's funny that that read is a thing.

Because I'm inclined to agree with it and I think that's funny.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 04:17 GMT
#381
On January 08 2015 12:42 Oatsmaster wrote:he may be scum, hes not scum cause of that.



This needs substantiating though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 04:24 GMT
#384
On January 08 2015 13:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 13:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 08 2015 12:42 Oatsmaster wrote:he may be scum, hes not scum cause of that.



This needs substantiating though.

that you complain in every single game you play?

I dunno man, its pretty obvious.


No, the relevant part.

The "he may be scum" part.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 04:49 GMT
#386
Am I the only one who noticed how much VA cares about this game?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:05 GMT
#388
Yeah, but it was a good post.

I have never seen him make posts like that, and I've only heard from others that his scumgame consists of him caring more. I only have experience with his town game, and it's hilarious and useless at the same time.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:05 GMT
#389
I'll have to look into it but I can't do it in the wee hours of the morning.

Blegh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:10 GMT
#390
Someone tell me why Lian is town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:12 GMT
#392
I don't want to light Eden on fire this game.

I don't know how I feel about this.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:15 GMT
#394
Well I didn't roll cop, so maybe that was what did it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:16 GMT
#395
Eden what's your opinion on VA?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:31 GMT
#398
^

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:44 GMT
#403
I'm kinda tempted to vote Vayne.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 05:52 GMT
#404
(btw we have a voting thread)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 15:46 GMT
#437
So I suck. I planned to wake up early today to check up on VA's meta to see if I was delusional or not and I wound up crashing hard. I'll be paying attention to this game via phone, but don't expect anything special until I return.

Also today is thrawn's/drparnassus' day to contribute. If he doesn't, we're lynching him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 15:46 GMT
#438
If I get a break or something I'll be able to put in some work though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 15:47 GMT
#439
On January 08 2015 23:57 Half the Sky wrote:
I just looked through VA's filter. Key phrases in bold.

Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 14:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other but you extort somone's post to make them look scummy or discredit them. It seems he opted to do both there. I don't follow on what you mean by intentional, as making a post on it pretty much makes it intentional by definition.

Still figuring out the second part, I don't really give a shit if we lynch town on day 1 its not a big deal.


Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 15:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Statistics show that a random lynch lynches scum more of the time then a well thought out first day lynch. Therefore unless there are mayor mechanics or something else special I rarely care what happens day 1 for the most part.


The above is completely false. As of November 2014, from Kita's database:

Show nested quote +
Mafia players are lynched 26.2% of the time on day one.
Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.2% of the time.
Mafia players are lynched only 16.9% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 28.5%!


Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 15:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
there is power roles, night actions, and reactions to both, literally the only things I need to hunt scum. So you are correct, I think all of day 1 is irrelevant and I can skip it for the most part


All of what I have highlighted is untrue. I feel the attitude in each and all of these quotes shows:

1 Indifference to finding scum, and D1 is not an excuse
2 Deconstructive thinking and discouraging other methods of scumhunting that others may use
3 Third quote shows WIFOM activity as the best way to find scum.

And according to the database he is clearly NOT a new player.

No, no and triple no.

##vote VayneAuthority


Also this case is kinda blegh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 15:50 GMT
#441
It is. VA has a really weird meta but I wanted to do research to confirm what I was thinking. I kinda feel like I'm playing with fire atm since I haven't done my homework yet.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 15:50 GMT
#443
lol we have so many players that are getting bogged down in rl stuff.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 18:34 GMT
#464
I'm sort of here.

I just thought it was weird that he was caring about the game and then everybody jumped on him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 18:35 GMT
#465
I haven't even been able to look up his meta to confirm it but everyone just sort of rolled with it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:02 GMT
#468
Yeah I can't even read this thread properly right now.

What a pain.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:03 GMT
#469
On January 09 2015 03:37 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 03:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm sort of here.

I just thought it was weird that he was caring about the game and then everybody jumped on him.


yeah but there's also votes on vayne for not caring about the game which is why the lynch doesnt make sense


The lynch doesn't make sense for several reasons. Even the people outside the sphere of him caring/not caring have bad reasoning.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:05 GMT
#470
I'm not going to get a break so I doubt I'll be able to research his meta properly.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:11 GMT
#471
I don't think I'll be able to properly find any alternatives though. Idk.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:17 GMT
#473
Stop pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:30 GMT
#477
No I said this was his scum meta.

Oats is the one who agreed with me and voted him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:30 GMT
#479
On January 09 2015 04:21 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop pls.


No

If Vayne isn't a good lynch who is?


Sure let me write a comprehensive case on my phone while I'm at work.

Oh wait.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:36 GMT
#482
I think I might have just gotten ate'd.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 19:46 GMT
#491
On January 09 2015 04:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 04:21 batsnacks wrote:
On January 09 2015 04:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Stop pls.


No

If Vayne isn't a good lynch who is?


Sure let me write a comprehensive case on my phone while I'm at work.

Oh wait.


You could say a name, other people might agree, and you wouldn't have to write a comprehensive case?

A single name at this point would be worth more than all the rest of your posts combined at this point imo.


That's nice.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:14 GMT
#510
On January 09 2015 05:06 DrParnassus wrote:
does anyone think ninjabunnies is town for any reason?


She seemed townie.

I didn't really have the urge to make fun of her so that means she could be town.

Self-meta isn't spectacular but I'm not lynching her today unless something ironclad comes through the woodwork.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:16 GMT
#511
I guess you could say tone is a factor in seeming townie, but that can be easily replicated.

(I don't have ironclad reasons but I'm not big on huge voteswaps for obvious reasons.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:17 GMT
#514
On January 09 2015 05:16 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:09 batsnacks wrote:
I'll vote OWS, VA, SL, or Dr. P today.

Any of them are fine.


lol you are crazy, i think you're town


That's kind of his thing.

And I thought we had this reasonably good town circle going.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:26 GMT
#521
I'm prbs gonna get on this va lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:36 GMT
#531
On January 09 2015 05:29 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm prbs gonna get on this va lynch.


whats the reason


Poe.

Caring too much.

Can't find another target.

Etc
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:38 GMT
#535
Thinking it over, people like hts voting for their own reasoning might be an indicator of newness rather than scumness.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:40 GMT
#537
On January 09 2015 05:38 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:29 DrParnassus wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm prbs gonna get on this va lynch.


whats the reason


Poe.

Caring too much.

Can't find another target.

Etc


there are targets. what do you think of the names mentioned recently?


Lots of people accuse no of sounding scummy via tone.

It is an issue that has plagued her since literally forever regardless of alignment.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 20:40 GMT
#538
Nb*
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 08 2015 22:17 GMT
#625
Meh blame me for that one.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 00:02 GMT
#631
On January 09 2015 08:30 liancourt wrote:
Well i m glad he is dead

obi is next


Is this supposed to be a joke?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 00:13 GMT
#632
Lian, you've been pushing me as a scumread based on a case that someone is pushing because he feels like it rather than actually believing it.

Then you dropped it for no reason so you could follow my suggestion on a VA lynch.

Then you picked it up again despite the fact that nothing changed.

???
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 00:20 GMT
#633
I'm preoccupied at the moment so I'm going to look over the day again when I get a chance.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 00:57 GMT
#635
You can piece them together by reading my filter. For the sake of shorthand:

NB - townish
Eden - null
DrParnassus - town
Batsnacks - town
Breshke - townish
SL - townish
HTS - townish

Anybody that I haven't mentioned is either not posting enough or hasn't gotten my attention. This is probably the first time I've had the opportunity to sit down at the computer and post, so.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 00:58 GMT
#636
If I self-meta, my reads are probably completely awful and won't change in any meaningful ways until day 2.

So there's that.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 00:59 GMT
#637
Oh you wanted me to wait until I was done reading.

lol sorry my bad
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:04 GMT
#640
On January 09 2015 09:59 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 09:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Lian, you've been pushing me as a scumread based on a case that someone is pushing because he feels like it rather than actually believing it.

Then you dropped it for no reason so you could follow my suggestion on a VA lynch.

Then you picked it up again despite the fact that nothing changed.

???


i agree with bats case on u because its exactly what i think. u are lazy yes, but that facade is so easy to hide behind as scum so i'm not letting u play that game. I have no idea what your scum reads are you've given a few this aint a good lynch shit and when given the chance to actually do something you didnt do jack shit. You could have at least pulled a name out of a hat but you didnt. You are purposefully not giving any information out. You easily defend town which any mafia can do because they are telling the truth when they are defending town. You have all these mafia traits. I would dive in for a day 2 lynch on you.


My filter is twice as big as yours.

And you sheeped my lynch and then called me scum for it.

Good job.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:05 GMT
#641
I spent the majority of today posting at work via phone.

How is that even lazy.

How do you even.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:16 GMT
#644
On January 09 2015 10:15 Eden1892 wrote:
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On January 09 2015 10:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I spent the majority of today posting at work via phone.

How is that even lazy.

How do you even.

Plot twist: he's your manager and talking about your work ethic on the job


I hate you and I love you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:20 GMT
#645
On January 09 2015 10:16 liancourt wrote:
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On January 08 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm kinda tempted to vote Vayne.


All you did was this...bravo you totally worked for that lynch but then later on u say it wasnt a good lynch

Show nested quote +
I just thought it was weird that he was caring about the game and then everybody jumped on him.


Show nested quote +
I haven't even been able to look up his meta to confirm it but everyone just sort of rolled with it.


Show nested quote +
The lynch doesn't make sense for several reasons. Even the people outside the sphere of him caring/not caring have bad reasoning.


Show nested quote +
I'm not going to get a break so I doubt I'll be able to research his meta properly.


u think its a bad lynch and yet u dont do jack shit

Show nested quote +
I don't think I'll be able to properly find any alternatives though. Idk.


Show nested quote +
No I said this was his scum meta.

Oats is the one who agreed with me and voted him.


u agree its scum meta but dont think its a good lynch...lol

Show nested quote +
Sure let me write a comprehensive case on my phone while I'm at work.

Oh wait.


you refuse to find an alternative lynch...wow pro town so goood

Now you say you suggested the lynch on VA HAHAHAHA...no I pushed for the VA lynch you squealed and whined it wasnt a good lynch while doing jack crap in finding an alternative. SCUM


I was the one who suggested the VA lynch.

I was the one who noted that a bunch of people were jumping on for bad reasons.

VA following his scum meta, which I noted wasn't even fully-formed and took responsibility for not being fully-formed due to real life issues getting in the way, was not 100% solid evidence because he was still posting reasonable posts after all was said and done.

I was the one who fully admitted to taking responsibility for missing.

If you really think that I can delve the thread in any meaningful way aside from staying up-to-date while working a full-time shift then you really need to check your life. What you're asking of me is legitimately impossible.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:23 GMT
#647
On January 09 2015 10:22 liancourt wrote:
funny how you say it was ur lynch and yet u back track as it gets to deadline but then say it was ur lynch after the flip....like wtf?



I do think it was my lynch because I was the one that pushed people to talk about him.

I threw his name down.

Where is the scum motivation for doing this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:25 GMT
#648
On January 09 2015 10:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:22 liancourt wrote:
funny how you say it was ur lynch and yet u back track as it gets to deadline but then say it was ur lynch after the flip....like wtf?



I do think it was my lynch because I was the one that pushed people to talk about him.

I threw his name down.

Where is the scum motivation for doing this?


Specifically, the scum motivation in what your quote there.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:28 GMT
#649
I actually don't think lian is mafia for pushing this case at all.

I can see his train of thought clearly and I know how he's coming to his conclusions.

He's still wrong though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:34 GMT
#651
Yeah I'm just going to put you back in my scum pile now.

That last paragraph was nothing but a steaming pile of stupidity.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:36 GMT
#652
I see exactly why VA raged out.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#655
On January 09 2015 10:46 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:22 liancourt wrote:
funny how you say it was ur lynch and yet u back track as it gets to deadline but then say it was ur lynch after the flip....like wtf?



I do think it was my lynch because I was the one that pushed people to talk about him.

I threw his name down.

Where is the scum motivation for doing this?


and yet u couldnt find an alternative when u thought it was a bad lynch

why are u trying to take credit for the VA lynch when u didnt do anything but say it was a bad lynch?

i've never seen scum play with scum motivation in mind. I've seen scum bus each other, i've seen scum point fingers at town. i've seen scum point fingers at town then back track on that read for absolutely no reason.

My top 2 scum objectives would be to

1. Blend in as town
2. Don't get your team mates killed.

By throwing a name out there you "look" like ur scum hunting(blending) and maybe to get attention off of a scum team mate(deflecting). At that point thread was dead so it'd only apply to blending in. You didnt even push on VA, u only softed which is what many so many mafia do.


Parnassus couldn't really find an alternative either.

Why not him?

Or are we just going to lynch everyone who shows any kind of hesitance in their reads?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:48 GMT
#656
On January 09 2015 10:47 liancourt wrote:
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On January 09 2015 10:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I see exactly why VA raged out.


quit the game like VA so i can lynch u


Do you pride yourself on being an unlikable piece of shit or is that just how it comes out?

You don't scare me. You annoy me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:50 GMT
#658
Alternatively, who am I deflecting from and why? What makes me scum with that person?

If you're going to draw associatives between unflipped players, which are as a general rule of thumb useless, then you might want to do it right to start off.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:54 GMT
#659
How can you even call someone scum without figuring out what their scum motivation is?

How do you even find mafia without that?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:58 GMT
#661
On January 09 2015 10:56 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:47 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I see exactly why VA raged out.


quit the game like VA so i can lynch u


Do you pride yourself on being an unlikable piece of shit or is that just how it comes out?

You don't scare me. You annoy me.


this is my be a prick meta

i ll play another meta next game


You should drop it.

Like, asap.

You're probably going to get policy'd if you keep this up and, even if you don't, nobody is going to sheep your lynches. Politics is part of the game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:58 GMT
#663
On January 09 2015 10:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:56 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:47 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I see exactly why VA raged out.


quit the game like VA so i can lynch u


Do you pride yourself on being an unlikable piece of shit or is that just how it comes out?

You don't scare me. You annoy me.


this is my be a prick meta

i ll play another meta next game


You should drop it.

Like, asap.

You're probably going to get policy'd if you keep this up and, even if you don't, nobody is going to sheep your lynches. Politics is part of the game.


I do want to point out that I'm not trying to threaten you by saying this.

Just read the thread sentiment in regards to how people are looking at you.

This is not doing you any favors.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#664
On January 09 2015 10:58 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Alternatively, who am I deflecting from and why? What makes me scum with that person?

If you're going to draw associatives between unflipped players, which are as a general rule of thumb useless, then you might want to do it right to start off.


i didnt say u were deflecting. Read my posts correctly.

I said you were only trying to blend in because thread was dead at that point


I don't see how posting in a dead thread indicates that I'm trying to blend.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 02:02 GMT
#665
On January 09 2015 10:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
damn you mad liancourt.

I think Parnassus is actually a good lynch lol.


Can you elaborate on this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 02:09 GMT
#667
On January 09 2015 11:06 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 10:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:56 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:47 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I see exactly why VA raged out.


quit the game like VA so i can lynch u


Do you pride yourself on being an unlikable piece of shit or is that just how it comes out?

You don't scare me. You annoy me.


this is my be a prick meta

i ll play another meta next game


You should drop it.

Like, asap.

You're probably going to get policy'd if you keep this up and, even if you don't, nobody is going to sheep your lynches. Politics is part of the game.


I can change my meta next game when i can actually play by joking around.

This game...nope i dont feel like joking around because everyone is playing apallingly and someone has to lead or make cases around here.

You should be worrying about ur lynch not mine mate


You should just change it right now.

Even if you think people are playing terribly, you should make them want to play or try pushing them in the right direction with energy and analysis rather than making people rage out.

What you're doing now is not going to ensure that anyone ever gets lynched and is a prime way of making you look scummy and annoying.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 02:12 GMT
#669
I don't think you know how to play this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 02:21 GMT
#670
At any rate, I don't think lian is mafia.

I don't like Oats fucking off here but it's not really scummy. It's just kind of annoying because I want to know what he thinks.

The most important thing I remembered from VA was the fact that he mentioned how LS was changing sides for poor reasoning but I need to go back and confirm it. That's probably where I'm going to look next.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 02:32 GMT
#672
On January 09 2015 11:30 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:06 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:56 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:47 liancourt wrote:
On January 09 2015 10:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I see exactly why VA raged out.


quit the game like VA so i can lynch u


Do you pride yourself on being an unlikable piece of shit or is that just how it comes out?

You don't scare me. You annoy me.


this is my be a prick meta

i ll play another meta next game


You should drop it.

Like, asap.

You're probably going to get policy'd if you keep this up and, even if you don't, nobody is going to sheep your lynches. Politics is part of the game.


I can change my meta next game when i can actually play by joking around.

This game...nope i dont feel like joking around because everyone is playing apallingly and someone has to lead or make cases around here.

You should be worrying about ur lynch not mine mate


You should just change it right now.

Even if you think people are playing terribly, you should make them want to play or try pushing them in the right direction with energy and analysis rather than making people rage out.

What you're doing now is not going to ensure that anyone ever gets lynched and is a prime way of making you look scummy and annoying.


No no no...this is coming from the person who was whining about the same thing??? Why dont u try and do this instead of educating me on how to do it.

Why dont u try pushing in the right direction with energy and analysis instead of being defensive and blaming irl reasons and trying to educate me on how to play mafia when u are clearly not the model mafia player urself right now.

Refrain from talking about my meta if isn't regarding a meta read and you are scum reading me for it.




I'm...doing that.

._.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 02:35 GMT
#675
lol

Okay then.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 07:52 GMT
#678
I'm just going to assume that both lian and batsnacks are both mafia from this point on since the two of them are making the thread toxic and making the game unplayable for no reason whatsoever.

I can only see this mindset coming from mafia and I refuse to believe these two people are actually this shitty for real.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 07:52 GMT
#679
I don't even understand why batsnacks would goad VA into not playing anymore.

What was the point of that? Are you just a giant piece of shit or are you actually mafia?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 14:50 GMT
#685
On January 09 2015 17:12 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 16:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't even understand why batsnacks would goad VA into not playing anymore.

What was the point of that? Are you just a giant piece of shit or are you actually mafia?


If I were an unlimited kp vig, you would be one of the people out tonight. So you're failing as any alignment.


Ok.

Scum.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 14:53 GMT
#686
On January 09 2015 19:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 17:18 DrParnassus wrote:
oats why do you hate me?

<3

Why are you saying things that look nice but have no substance and being all diplomatic and polite?


Can you back up the first part?

Second part is useless.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 15:47 GMT
#688
I'm here.

Comment on something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 16:09 GMT
#697
I'll be really surprised if nb is scum this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 16:09 GMT
#698
(This means I think she's town, so nobody gets the wrong idea.)
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 16:46 GMT
#709
On January 10 2015 01:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:06 Breshke wrote:
Stuff it, im voting VA


And back to mafia.


I found his accepting responsibility for the mislynch somewhat towny.

He needs to step up though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 17:31 GMT
#712
I could stand to lynch Oats but I'm not sure if it wouldn't be for personal reasons.

I'll give it some thought and see what he does next.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 17:33 GMT
#713
I really don't like the fact that Eden is doing nothing here either.

I get the feeling that he would be accomplishing more here as town and probably have a much bigger albeit pig-headed filter by now.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 17:40 GMT
#714
I'll be back later.

Someone post about Eden's scumgame while I'm gone. Preferably someone with experience.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 21:01 GMT
#719
On January 10 2015 04:56 mderg wrote:
I felt really bad while reading liancourt's posts. Looks like he's trying to antagonize everyone and make the game unenjoyable. I kinda want to lynch him just for that.

27nb is probably town because she likes my case on HTS. She's also asking intelligent questions and critically thinking about the game (this is like the most generic reason for a townread ever but whatever)


This guy is town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 22:30 GMT
#722
Lol wtf where's damdred?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 09 2015 22:45 GMT
#729
On January 10 2015 07:39 batsnacks wrote:
If someone didn't send in their night actions that's too bad for town. It's already technically 40 minutes into d2.


Stop pushing mafia objectives.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2015 05:58 GMT
#753
I'm off work but I've got stuff to do tomorrow.

Couple of thoughts:

Eden is posting the absolute bare minimum to get by and really shouldn't be allowed to do so, especially when he's so hyperactive and headstrong as town.

I'm not sure how I feel about batsnacks and lian atm. I'm sure personal preference might have colored my reads so I'm going to let those thoughts do their own thing for a little while.

I might come back with more reads tonight but I probably won't. I'll be around intermittently until tomorrow night when I can sit down and do things.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2015 05:58 GMT
#754
All of my other scumreads boil down to "people that aren't doing stuff need to be doing stuff."

Disheartening.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2015 21:04 GMT
#773
On January 11 2015 02:44 batsnacks wrote:
Why aren't you voting OWS oats? OWS doesn't have any scum reads and he hasn't all game.


Uhm, yes I have.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2015 21:05 GMT
#774
Lala I need a list of reads from you.

I see your list post but I don't really know where you stand on anyone and that really bugs me.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 10 2015 21:07 GMT
#775
Thrawn needs to do something.

Like asap.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 02:09 GMT
#788
On January 11 2015 10:13 DrParnassus wrote:
ya i'm lurking too


This guy should probably die.

Scumpoints for playing to his scum meta, especially when I know he can do so much more and be so much more insightful as town.

Do something plx.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 02:44 GMT
#792
On January 11 2015 11:43 sicklucker wrote:
Guys i just claimed a damn role because im so sure in my reads why dont you just follow me? Like im so done here at least mafias gonna kill me.


I'm aware.

We still have plenty of time to talk about other stuff.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 04:59 GMT
#841
Every time thrawn posts I feel so much better.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 05:26 GMT
#843
Wow no.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 05:26 GMT
#844
lolwtf
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 05:58 GMT
#848
On January 11 2015 14:37 DrParnassus wrote:
yeah it's crazy. so what's up?


Nothing, really. This game is quite uneventful.

Who do you want to kill?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 06:13 GMT
#852
On January 11 2015 14:58 DrParnassus wrote:
obiwan are you still here


Only sort of.

I'm tired and getting ready to head off to bed.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 06:30 GMT
#854
Every time I think of Eden's filter, I think of something awful and have to check it again.

But there's no way I can check that at this hour and make an accurate conclusion.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 06:35 GMT
#856
It is.

Because nobody is doing anything and there are so many places for scum to hide because of it.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 06:36 GMT
#857
I'm afraid we're going to end up policy lynching someone at the end of today, but at the very least SL's claim buys us more time to work.

So lynching some useless townie isn't going to be the end of the world.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 06:40 GMT
#859
I could be.

I hated her analysis on VA.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 06:51 GMT
#861
Her analysis on page 1 looks like it's centered around understanding what's going on around her and her reads lists look pretty congruent with things that are happening, but her case is so bad.

So bad.

I know she deferred to Bats and me but...Geez.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 06:59 GMT
#862
Going to bed.

I have tomorrow off so I should be around.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 16:32 GMT
#886
I'm around.

Who are we lynching?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 16:38 GMT
#888
On January 12 2015 01:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nope is not a legitimate answer.



Your case isn't good.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 16:45 GMT
#891
On January 12 2015 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
It's great.
Attitude off and completely no inclination to find scum. Just posting for the sake of posting.

Great case.


I don't really see either of those things, though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 17:41 GMT
#901
We're probably going to end up policy lynching someone anyway since like 3 or 4 people aren't even playing so.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 19:02 GMT
#907
Why LS, drp?

I don't really suspect him much at all tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 19:32 GMT
#911
On January 12 2015 04:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 04:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why LS, drp?

I don't really suspect him much at all tbh.

I said I have no idea who to lynch you thinking of someone else lol.....


I wasn't asking you.

I was asking why thrawn listed you in his scumlist because I don't remember him mentioning you ever.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:13 GMT
#914
On January 12 2015 05:00 Eden1892 wrote:
I am hopelessly behind, working a double double is garbage. I'm voting Oats b/c out of my two suspects he hasn't really done anything to try to solve the game. Will catch up when I can. Sorry I suck

Vote Oats


Vote somebody that's up for lynch.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:22 GMT
#917
##lalalipop

k

See you later then.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:26 GMT
#919
Here's why: you have way too many unexplained scumreads and it looks like you're ignoring parts of peoples filters rather than trying to grasp the whole picture.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:29 GMT
#920
SL is actually a claimed role but you somehow still don't have a read on him.

You've ignored the entirety of the lian/me interaction in favor of saying "I'm just complaining about thread atmosphere."

You've listed me in a scumteam with lian when it's obvious that we can't be a team.

Your proposed team (if you can even call it that, since you have a team made up of half the game) doesn't make any sense and you're open to way too many lynches at once.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:31 GMT
#922
On January 12 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Here's why: you have way too many unexplained scumreads and it looks like you're ignoring parts of peoples filters rather than trying to grasp the whole picture.


They're not actually unexplained: just badly explained.

Either way, I don't like them.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:32 GMT
#923
On January 12 2015 05:30 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Here's why: you have way too many unexplained scumreads and it looks like you're ignoring parts of peoples filters rather than trying to grasp the whole picture.


I have 3 scumreads... way too many?

I also never included anything from first half of d1.


I was under the impression that you had Oats/Breshke as possible lynches.

Am I mistaken?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:54 GMT
#928
On January 12 2015 05:46 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 05:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 05:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Here's why: you have way too many unexplained scumreads and it looks like you're ignoring parts of peoples filters rather than trying to grasp the whole picture.


They're not actually unexplained: just badly explained.

Either way, I don't like them.


Read their filter for the explanation, if you don't think liancourt is scumm for his d1 end/d2 filter, I'll go eat a sock


You called me scum because I called liancourt out for shitposting.

How does a townie think this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#929
Actually.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:55 GMT
#930
On January 12 2015 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 05:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 05:00 Eden1892 wrote:
I am hopelessly behind, working a double double is garbage. I'm voting Oats b/c out of my two suspects he hasn't really done anything to try to solve the game. Will catch up when I can. Sorry I suck

Vote Oats


Vote somebody that's up for lynch.

K I vote u bby






Jk I'm gonna sheep you, that cool?


Do something.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 20:56 GMT
#931
I might renege this lala thing.

I don't know who I'd vote otherwise though. I still don't really get the drp scumreads.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:02 GMT
#935
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.

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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:02 GMT
#937
I swear lala isn't actually reading.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:02 GMT
#938
On January 12 2015 06:02 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
SL is actually a claimed role but you somehow still don't have a read on him.


I'm not hunting for pr, why should I care what role SL claims? (he explicitly claimed it, but I don't buy that)


If you think that claim is anything other than inoptimal and town as fuck then you need to check your life.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:04 GMT
#942
On January 12 2015 06:03 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.



you need to provide a conclusion. If you have a gun over liancourt's head, are you going to shoot or drop the gun?


Shoot.

But shooting is different from lynching.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:08 GMT
#946
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:10 GMT
#949
Uhm.

Why are you guys killing Oats?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:10 GMT
#951
On January 12 2015 06:10 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
I dont care because im not a very useful role. Ill just say that im not the cop. Im not a veg because I would have shot. Im a confirmed town you should all sheep because no ones scum hunting except on obi who Is a likely town.


I don't buy it because our rb just got killed and assuming mafia is 3 goon, there will be a useful role + rb.

In the worst case scenario, 3 mafia pr. 3-4 town pr. rb dead, 2-3 more pr.

pr talk aside, his claim just feel like "I don't want to play anymore so if I don't die on n2 then lynch me" more than "yolo".


So what?

Do you think he's going to intentionally make his own life harder by claiming a role for no reason as mafia or what?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:12 GMT
#953
On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian


So he's mafia for making his own posts easier to read?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:18 GMT
#960
On January 12 2015 06:16 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not pushing drp.

I'm wary of my read on lian because I don't know if I'd lynch him for personal reasons or not, and I know I try to lynch people who piss me off. I'm kind of on the fence because I can see scum motivation for shitting up the thread, but at the same time I don't think mafia would be so blatant about trying to make enemies.


Did you forget about Ritoky in Carol? Ritoky pretty much was making enemies Day 1 of that game. Also did you notice that Lian not making spoilered posts like he did in Russia Today and Carol?


I see reasonable doubt in my case which is why I'm not pushing him.

I don't see how your second point matters.

Meta wise Lian as town would make these annoying ass spoilered posts and made it hard for me to read his thoughts but this game he haven't.
##Vote: Lian


So he's mafia for making his own posts easier to read?

He's mafia because of meta at least in my eyes. Also seemed to get ticked off a little bit easier this game than in Carol too.

That's some really flawed meta, though. I can definitely see lian being mafia but not for that.


+1
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:20 GMT
#964
On January 12 2015 06:17 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:10 lalalipop wrote:
On January 11 2015 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
I dont care because im not a very useful role. Ill just say that im not the cop. Im not a veg because I would have shot. Im a confirmed town you should all sheep because no ones scum hunting except on obi who Is a likely town.


I don't buy it because our rb just got killed and assuming mafia is 3 goon, there will be a useful role + rb.

In the worst case scenario, 3 mafia pr. 3-4 town pr. rb dead, 2-3 more pr.

pr talk aside, his claim just feel like "I don't want to play anymore so if I don't die on n2 then lynch me" more than "yolo".


So what?

Do you think he's going to intentionally make his own life harder by claiming a role for no reason as mafia or what?


More like he have intentionally made his life easier since nobody cares if he is in the thread anymore. He is a claimed pr. Claiming because his pr is 'useless'. He also talked about how he claimed just to waste mafia shots/abilities. Both town and scum can claim here.


If nobody cares in the thread anymore then what's the point of him claiming a role as mafia?

I have been assuming that there was 3 scum since its standard for 12-14 player mafia games. What if there were 4 mafia? He could have claimed for giggles since the game was boring anyway.


I don't see how this means anything.

In any case, if he lives for very long, will you start to suspect him?


Duh.

This is the exact reason we are telling you his claim is bad. It makes absolutely no sense to claim there as scum in order to get his lynch of choice, especially since it means he lives forever and will eventually be suspected due to not dying as a claimed role.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:22 GMT
#967
On January 12 2015 06:21 lalalipop wrote:
I'm more on board for a lian lynch.

obi, if you will shoot him, you're going to lynch him. Its the same thing.


No it's not.

@Batsnacks: If SL is actually a miller, what makes you think claiming miller makes him mafia?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:26 GMT
#971
On January 12 2015 06:25 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:17 lalalipop wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:10 lalalipop wrote:
On January 11 2015 10:23 sicklucker wrote:
I dont care because im not a very useful role. Ill just say that im not the cop. Im not a veg because I would have shot. Im a confirmed town you should all sheep because no ones scum hunting except on obi who Is a likely town.


I don't buy it because our rb just got killed and assuming mafia is 3 goon, there will be a useful role + rb.

In the worst case scenario, 3 mafia pr. 3-4 town pr. rb dead, 2-3 more pr.

pr talk aside, his claim just feel like "I don't want to play anymore so if I don't die on n2 then lynch me" more than "yolo".


So what?

Do you think he's going to intentionally make his own life harder by claiming a role for no reason as mafia or what?


More like he have intentionally made his life easier since nobody cares if he is in the thread anymore. He is a claimed pr. Claiming because his pr is 'useless'. He also talked about how he claimed just to waste mafia shots/abilities. Both town and scum can claim here.


If nobody cares in the thread anymore then what's the point of him claiming a role as mafia?

I have been assuming that there was 3 scum since its standard for 12-14 player mafia games. What if there were 4 mafia? He could have claimed for giggles since the game was boring anyway.


I don't see how this means anything.

In any case, if he lives for very long, will you start to suspect him?


Duh.

This is the exact reason we are telling you his claim is bad. It makes absolutely no sense to claim there as scum in order to get his lynch of choice, especially since it means he lives forever and will eventually be suspected due to not dying as a claimed role.


I don't think the objective of his claim was to get a lynch of his choice. Rather, it was to avoid being lynched. Claiming a useless role so that its still possible for him to stay alive since shooting a useless blue = shooting random townie, while he don't have to scream "roleblocked!!!" for the rest of the game.

If he was town, he is helping mafia since mafia will let him stay alive and let us kill him for them.


Nobody was lynching him.

Your read doesn't make any sense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:34 GMT
#976
I don't know who to vote.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:36 GMT
#978
On January 12 2015 06:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't know who to vote.

Vote who you think is scum.


Gee thanks.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:37 GMT
#982
I completely forgot Breshke was in this game.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:42 GMT
#987
I might just stay on lala tbh.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:44 GMT
#991
On January 12 2015 06:44 Breshke wrote:
Ay soz i have really choppy connection because i had to go out to some country town but going home today.

Lalipop makes sense with the SL claim shit and thats towny to me. Im ptobably gonna sheep bats


Wtf is this shit.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:48 GMT
#995
I can dig a mass switch to Breshke.

Here is his current thought process:
*The main lynch target is town, I'm going to switch at the last second to someone that has no chance of getting lynched.

10/10

So towny wowe.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:52 GMT
#999
Ugh.

I'm the master of switches but I don't think a switch will happen, and I don't feel terrific about any of these lynches save for maybe lala.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:53 GMT
#1001
On January 12 2015 06:52 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:48 Breshke wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote lightningstrike

seriously?


I just said this was a problem but nobody wants to switch.

Much irritating.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:55 GMT
#1002
I don't really see what the case is on Oats.

I'm not entirely sure why people are voting him.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:57 GMT
#1005
On January 12 2015 06:56 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really see what the case is on Oats.

I'm not entirely sure why people are voting him.


what's the case on me then?


Your reads don't make sense and you have too many people as questionable for shoddy reasons.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:58 GMT
#1007
On January 12 2015 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
EVERYONE SWITCH TO DrP ???


Too late, not happening.

Don't understand the case anyway.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 21:59 GMT
#1010
On January 12 2015 06:58 lalalipop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:56 lalalipop wrote:
On January 12 2015 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't really see what the case is on Oats.

I'm not entirely sure why people are voting him.


what's the case on me then?


Your reads don't make sense and you have too many people as questionable for shoddy reasons.


then go ahead and show me why they arent as questionable as i imagined.


Yes because asking a minute before deadline will get you an amazing answer.

@mderg: Eh. Maybe.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 22:07 GMT
#1014
Unsurprising.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 22:11 GMT
#1018
On January 12 2015 07:09 lalalipop wrote:
whatever. 2 towns would have died if i was lynched anyway .


If we have a vig, shoot this person. If nothing else, it's an excellent information shot in regards to what scum was doing today since the lynch was so contested and we still had outlying votes.

Breshke is also a good vig shot.

Pick one of those two.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 22:16 GMT
#1020
On January 12 2015 07:13 Eden1892 wrote:
Or cop check
Since we have miller and all


There's no death miller in the setup, yo.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 22:24 GMT
#1023
On January 12 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
The Slacker is a Miller OWS.


Yeah but not a death miller.

When did we come to the conclusion that we have a cop?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 22:24 GMT
#1024
Whatever, no more talking about it.

Let the blues do their thing.

I think lala is an excellent choice for any kind of blue action, Breshke less so.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 22:26 GMT
#1025
On January 12 2015 07:22 Eden1892 wrote:
Bruh I meant that I don't think we have a vig lmao. Rb + cop + vig seems a lil stacked


I actually played this setup once in FF2.

Though there was also a serial killer, so maybe that doesn't apply.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#1027
On January 12 2015 07:28 Eden1892 wrote:
Just going off of sl's miller claim indicates cop. But
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 07:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Whatever, no more talking about it.

Let the blues do their thing.

This is true.

I'm still on mobile and about to go back to work, hmu if you wanna chat real quick. Follow me on Twitter @NotTheFakeEden1892


Miller claims indicate nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 13 2015 00:50 GMT
#1096
gg

Obs pls.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 17 2015 22:48 GMT
#1608
Lali was so obvious.

What the fuck guys.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 17 2015 22:50 GMT
#1610
It's like my shit disappears as soon as I die.

loooooool
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 17 2015 23:13 GMT
#1617
I don't even know what I could say to help people get better.

Just like...Read what dead people said. I'm kinda miffed that nobody paid any attention to what I said after I died. Lali did nothing and everyone gave him a pass.

=/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 18 2015 05:44 GMT
#1632
On January 18 2015 10:45 sicklucker wrote:
Lalis not really obvious mafia hes a 56 post count player. Basically a wildcard alot of people sign up for these and dont play. I just gambled that he was town I think you gotta take chances to win in double lylo


If you think someone is a wildcard, you don't keep them around; you shoot them.

Lala should have been shot over Breshke because it gave so much information, and Breshke was guaranteed to get lynched anyway. Town's direction should have been obvious after that.

Honestly, I think I should have just ignored mderg and pushed for lala's lynch hard. The vote was close enough and the Oats lynch was awful.
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