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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 18:38 GMT
#1181
Loli
+ Show Spoiler +
I was the one who told everyone you were town after breske died and he wasted his vote. Sheep me


Dr
+ Show Spoiler +
Im telling everyone you being mafia with breske doesint make sense. Sheep me
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 18:40 GMT
#1182
Ls
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Stop omgus'ing lian and mafia siding
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
January 13 2015 18:50 GMT
#1183
its called yolo voting because u really dont give a hoot's ass.

trying to analyze or understand my votes is useless because there is no meaning behind them except that i voted for ppl who were scum to me.

i dont see an issue why voting with my then scum reads is an issue. i voted first

eden makes it seem like i sheeped their votes when in fact i was one of the first to vote VA

what has drp been doing....i havent seen him at all

Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 20:25 GMT
#1184
On January 14 2015 00:04 sicklucker wrote:
So eden from your pov your 3 kills are bats , lian and mderg? Lets just kill mderg first? If we miss on mderg that means the mafia team has to be one of bats/lian or you/dr

Why dont you just want to kill mderg first. Is it because hes your mafia partner?

No, I want to kill lian first because he's the guy I have a case for. Show me a case on mderg and we can talk about it. So far you've said you could buy my case on lian, but then ignored it and went on with your reads anyway.


And since the role shenanigans died down without definitive resolution, sicklucker is town; he's fakeclaimed like this before in Imperial, as has been noted. The thing here isn't whether or not the fakeclaim is legit at all, or whether any trap he was trying to set makes sense when you think about it. It's that sicklucker was trying to set a trap at all. Mafia don't do that with role shenanigans as a general rule: the entire mindset of "set a trap with shenanigans to catch mafia" is almost exclusively a townie mindset, and doing it with roles is even more difficult (for mafia) because it might bait a cop check on principle. If someone can point me to where sicklucker does this as mafia then I'll reconsider, but I just can't see mafia ever doing this. It's too convoluted and chancey from a mafia POV.

With that said, I think batsnacks's response to sicklucker's claims was suspicious:
On January 14 2015 01:56 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 01:52 sicklucker wrote:
So what bats mafia didnt read it because they wasted their roleblock last night. The roles are terribly descibe and I had to ask the host to tell me what roles are in the game because I could barely read them.


It was pretty clear to me. Clear enough to realize immediately, without asking the host, that you were lying.

I can't unvote you after that so if you're town you just screwed up bad.

This is bad for two reasons. One, by this point it's been well-established that sicklucker routinely fakeclaims as town to set traps for the mafia. It doesn't matter if they were poorly set up, like I said before: the fact that he tried it at all more or less confirms him town. batsnacks appears to be making his evaluation not based on whether the motivation for the trap was town or mafia, but on the quality of the apparent trap, which itself is not alignment-indicative. That means he isn't genuinely trying to discern whether or not sicklucker is town, he's looking for a plausible-sounding reason to put a vote down. "He fakeclaimed" is precisely the kind of mediocre policy-lynch that nonetheless is popular on TL which fits what he wants.

And two, the last part, the "I can't unvote you" thing. Bullshit! You can vote or unvote for whomever you want. This looks like a justification to park his vote and leave. sicklucker is bleeding town and this guy wants to park his vote there because of an unreasonable hangup over a fakeclaim? I don't believe him.


@SL, since (I think) you asked earlier: My lynch list right now is liancourt/batsnacks then batsnacks/liancourt. I don't have a third yet.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 20:31 GMT
#1185
On January 14 2015 03:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:39 mderg wrote:
How about you guys vote oats. Or maybe make some shenannies on lian happen.


Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 06:51 mderg wrote:
I could see a switch to lian happen, anyone else is pretty much out of question for me.


Mderg heres a motive for you switching the vote of loli. Both you and eden seriously want lian dead.

This seems silly to me. If you're actually a PR, you know there almost certainly aren't any other positive-utility town PRs (roleblocker + vigilante + whatever) remaining. That makes liancourt VT. Why would mderg care about killing liancourt over anyone else if mderg is mafia and liancourt has no special power?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 21:02 GMT
#1186
That has nothing to with what I said about mderg eden. Mderg asked why he would switched his vote from loli to oats.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:03 GMT
#1187
On January 14 2015 06:02 sicklucker wrote:
That has nothing to with what I said about mderg eden. Mderg asked why he would switched his vote from loli to oats.

That doesn't actually explain why he would switch the vote though. You realize this, right?

What is your actual case on mderg? I asked you for this earlier.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:05 GMT
#1188
Would also appreciate your thoughts on liancourt and especially batsnacks. I just noticed on rereading that he explicitly says you're "probably town" but then is throwing his vote away on you instead of voting for liancourt or mderg. How does a townie do this?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:05 GMT
#1189
quote for reference:
On January 14 2015 02:38 batsnacks wrote:
I don't believe that breshke rbed obiwan. There is nothing believable about SL's claim(s) and it is intensely irritating because he's probably town.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#1190
I want to vote DrP.

Not off work till deadline.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:19 GMT
#1191
Prayers sent for your 24-hour shift
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 13 2015 21:20 GMT
#1192
You're gonna need to explain the DrP thing when you get a chance though. I'm lenient about work johns because I often have them myself but before EOD pls
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 13 2015 21:35 GMT
#1193
DrP because it's d2 and I don't remember any of his posts or votes. Also breshke was lurky and playing really neutral too and I think they have that in common.

Who you want to lynch Eden?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
January 13 2015 21:50 GMT
#1194
i'm not gonna be around till a few hours before next deadline but it's ok, i'm town and i'm pretty sure the game's close to being solved from my perspective
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 13 2015 21:52 GMT
#1195
Hammer is in like 5 minutes?
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
January 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#1196
oh really? deadline is today?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#1197
wait disregard me I'm wrong and stupid
DrParnassus
Profile Joined March 2013
Afghanistan565 Posts
January 13 2015 21:54 GMT
#1198
fuck lol
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 21:55 GMT
#1199
On January 14 2015 06:03 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:02 sicklucker wrote:
That has nothing to with what I said about mderg eden. Mderg asked why he would switched his vote from loli to oats.

That doesn't actually explain why he would switch the vote though. You realize this, right?

What is your actual case on mderg? I asked you for this earlier.


poe
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 13 2015 21:55 GMT
#1200
On January 14 2015 06:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Would also appreciate your thoughts on liancourt and especially batsnacks. I just noticed on rereading that he explicitly says you're "probably town" but then is throwing his vote away on you instead of voting for liancourt or mderg. How does a townie do this?


hes retarded
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