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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 14:57 GMT
#432
I just looked through VA's filter. Key phrases in bold.

On January 08 2015 14:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other but you extort somone's post to make them look scummy or discredit them. It seems he opted to do both there. I don't follow on what you mean by intentional, as making a post on it pretty much makes it intentional by definition.

Still figuring out the second part, I don't really give a shit if we lynch town on day 1 its not a big deal.


On January 08 2015 15:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
Statistics show that a random lynch lynches scum more of the time then a well thought out first day lynch. Therefore unless there are mayor mechanics or something else special I rarely care what happens day 1 for the most part.


The above is completely false. As of November 2014, from Kita's database:

Mafia players are lynched 26.2% of the time on day one.
Random lynching would result in a mafia lynch 25.2% of the time.
Mafia players are lynched only 16.9% of the time in newbie games on day one, so excluding these games brings the overall day one lynch percentage up to 28.5%!


On January 08 2015 15:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
there is power roles, night actions, and reactions to both, literally the only things I need to hunt scum. So you are correct, I think all of day 1 is irrelevant and I can skip it for the most part


All of what I have highlighted is untrue. I feel the attitude in each and all of these quotes shows:

1 Indifference to finding scum, and D1 is not an excuse
2 Deconstructive thinking and discouraging other methods of scumhunting that others may use
3 Third quote shows WIFOM activity as the best way to find scum.

And according to the database he is clearly NOT a new player.

No, no and triple no.

##vote VayneAuthority
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 15:14 GMT
#433
And Oats, your vote on VA isn't in the voting thread.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 15:37 GMT
#436
On January 09 2015 00:20 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not saying you're wrong, but everything VA is saying is consistent with his meta. He usually dicks around d1, posts random pictures, and if he's town there will be random moments of actually trying later on.

Just wanted to throw that out there.


Okay, then let me take a step back here because I'm also not the only one that voted for him. Eden at least suspected/pushed him and Lian and Oats also voted him as well.

Lian, Eden, Oats: Have any of you played a game with VA? If so, could any of the three of you either vouch for or give a counterargument on VA's meta?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 16:26 GMT
#454
Well we have Bats vouching for your D1 meta, and being relatively new, I've not played with you before, so I took all your actions at face value. Not knowing anything else, it does looks bad to me.

But I'm going to wait and see what OWS says though. And if his knowledge supports, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Bats is contesting that Oats' thinking may also be flawed in voting you.

Do you have an alternative, or would your alternative be LS?

Also OP doesn't say when EoD is. Should I assume 1700 EST?
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Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 16:27 GMT
#455
Bunnies, what is your reasoning for voting Oats? He was like this D1 in Student Mafia.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 19:33 GMT
#481
OWS and DrP, this is my first time playing with him and Bats defence of him was meta. I cannot speak for the veteran votes on him, though. With three people defending him for reasons they are, I'm willing to give VA benefit of the doubt.

My thoughts:

I do not understand Bunnies' vote on Oats, but I want her to explain first.
I do not feel Oats is the D1 lynch.

Sicklucker generally needs more than one day to evaluate, Breshke I know has been scum before and a couple are scumreading him based on tone. I also feel I need another day to eval those two, Bats, OWS.

Lian...different approach...but I'm not feeling a lynch on him either.

mderg, I don't want to omgus him, but if I were to switch my name with someone else's and if I saw him say the same thing, my problem with his argument is that even for D1, the reads still show I am trying to work with what limited information I have. Saying my reads were inaccurate (i.e. Bats) is fine, though.

Eden's posts I am getting a town sense of thinking, I don't want to lynch him.

Lala has yet to post since he (she?) confirmed though. Now this is a potential modkill and if we absolutely positively have no other alternatives...

On my phone, but I'll keep my eyes open here if I can.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 19:45 GMT
#490
SL, look for the post where Bats explains VA's D1 meta to me after I vote VA.

Then when VA says "community sucks", Bats says don't let the door hit you on the way out. That's when I think Bats votes him.

LS: Full power, atm. Also other half has his tablet on him if it comes to that.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 19:53 GMT
#496
SL, check the timestamps to verify the "door" comment against when Bats voted in voting thread.

I already said I will move my vote. To whom?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 19:56 GMT
#500
SL, we have a potential modkill on the table, you just remarked that what Bats did was pretty bad and you want to kill me?

I don't understand your reasoning.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:04 GMT
#503
On January 09 2015 05:00 sicklucker wrote:
Ignore the modkill because we want him to get replaced. Wasting a vote on him is never correct. Like I cant read bats I admit this everygame and mislynched him twice. I have correctly read you in both are games together and you ignored things a town you should not ignore.


Actually no you have NOT correctly read me in both games. In Carol, you were 100 percent sure that I was scum until I claimed.

You were wrong at one point on me. You are wrong right now. You will see how wrong you are when I flip.

I also think it's dirty of you to start the wagon the way you are because now by doing this I will be forced to keep my vote on VA to save myself.

If you are scum, you are either trying to get me or VA killed, and it won't matter whom.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:10 GMT
#509
SL, I was JK. Cop died N2 in Carol. You pushed my lynch until I claimed.

You didn't instant believe me. You demanded my saves (rightfully) and waited for a cc.

Try again.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:19 GMT
#515
DrP - When I townread NB, she seemed to have reads but that was early D1, and like I said I didn't understand her vote on Oats. I would like answered before I'd vote her.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:22 GMT
#517
On January 09 2015 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
cop didnt die n2? you were the cop wtf is this lie


You are trying to get me lynched for this? I WAS THE FUCKING JAILKEEPER.

Someone please go to Carol thread. I cannot quote from phone, but Carol of the Bells game. D3 results. Trfel the Santa, the cop is dead.

Why are you so desperate to get me killed SL?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:24 GMT
#518
We are getting off topic. What are people's thoughts on mderg?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:38 GMT
#534
SL: Stop taking my posts out of context. I scumread you BEFORE this exchange.

Dr.P, will read NB filter again.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:43 GMT
#543
On January 09 2015 05:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Thinking it over, people like hts voting for their own reasoning might be an indicator of newness rather than scumness.


That is why I deferred to you and Bats, plus the veterans that also voted him.

I tunnelled Bats in my Student game, my first game here, and refused to believe meta then and it got me in a lot of trouble.
I have since learnt from that mistake.

I deferred because I care about getting this right.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:50 GMT
#545
Dr. P - I looked at NB's tone in her posts. Very similar to how she played in Carol, though she was almost more jovial because a lot of people in that game posted joke/fun posts D1. She was lynched D1 and was miller.

I don't see the edginess in the posts you describe.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#550
Mderg, others have said similar things to what you have bolded. Why pick me out of the rest?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#551
Mderg, your second point on OMGUS, I am saying why your argument is a poor one, because you criticised my reads.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 08 2015 21:00 GMT
#552
EBWOP: You criticised my reads, so I am saying why your argument is a poor one.
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