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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 02:59 GMT
#825
...was that an answer to my question? What does scumreading JarJar have to do with Celestial being the only one voting for him?

I see that you said you were willing to shenanigan onto Shining or JarJar before the blue claim, but only them. So the blue claim wasn't enough to get you to go for either of your other scumreads, who both had votes? Shining especially would have been a good choice at the time.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 03:05 GMT
#826
Sorry HTS lol, I'm not ignoring you. And yes, the phrasing "settle for WW" means he wasn't my first choice. Though of course I know that for those thinking I'm lying about what I was doing, my explanation doesn't mean much.

Do you have any questions for me? I'm still working back through the posting leading up to the lynch.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 03:14 GMT
#828
On January 09 2015 11:57 Tubesock wrote:
Bah I can't read. You're asking at eod. I was town reading Celestial then as we had an exchange when he said he was going to jarjar. Jar being my listed #2, I didn't really care about it.


Tube, you wanted me to ask you questions. Please answer them.

How does this matter? You called out Gumdrop at least twice and Shining for wasting their votes leading up to the lynch. But you didn't bother saying anything to Celestial. Am I misunderstanding something?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 03:24 GMT
#834
On January 09 2015 12:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 12:05 rsoultin wrote:
Do you have any questions for me? I'm still working back through the posting leading up to the lynch.


The only question I have at this point in time for you is to confirm your scumreads and/or nulls. You said a number of people were being scummy in a recent post. I know you are scumreading Celestial and LS possibly but whom else?

Tonight I am able to stay up a bit late until 4am, or another 45 mins, so if either you have something for me, please let me know. I'm off work tomorrow thank goodness.




I'm actually doing vote analysis right now and comparing people's reads/reactions to their post-lynch explanations. To be honest, I'm struggling with paranoia...and uncertainty on whether or not decisions were made because of people being new, or because they were scum.

My only strong town read right now is you...which at this point in the game I think is rather sad. A few others I'm not interested in lynching right now, but bah. Preliminary...Gumdrop, Celestial...still deciding on JarJar, Shining, LS whether I think they're scum or just bear closer watching. Silver is a null for me cause she's just a general question mark this game. Tube is null cause some things I find weird, but I can see him being super tunneled cause we all suffer from it sometimes and his posts do read that way...his posting has been pretty good, too. So null.

But this is all just preliminary. I'll have something more concrete waiting for you (and everyone else) when you wake up.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 03:37 GMT
#840
None whatsoever @ HTS.

She's brand new to mafia. Her very first game. I'm just treating her as an inactive right now because I can't get anything from an AFK vote anyway and she's posted so little. Regardless, she's definitely not in my top scumreads that would make her a potential lynch tomorrow unless everyone goes stark raving mad and decides to vote you and ExO as scum or something. Then I'd be willing to settle on just about anyone else lol ><.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 03:51 GMT
#843
Eh, I honestly don't know if knowing people without playing with them in a mafia game before helps >< Like, my brother, in person he's not aggressive at all, so when he posted his very biased narrative and came at me guns blazing that seemed out of character.

Belatedly, though, I'm not really sure what is in-character for him in mafia games. We played a little on the much more inactive site. I know he likes votes, numbers, real evidence and not so much what people say cause people can lie. But how that translates into an active game from an inactive one, or compares to how we treat each other normally...it's hard to say.

Silver's always friendly to me? But we're friends. So that is kind of a given.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 04:00 GMT
#845
Yo, Silver. We're figuring out where we want to take the lynch tomorrow. Mind giving us your scumreads and reasons, please? (I think others had questions for you, too, if I remember correctly.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 05:53 GMT
#848
Okay...

I won't lynch the following tomorrow under any circumstances:
HTS
ExO (lesser town read, but still a town read)

Those I would prefer not to lynch from strongest to weakest:
JarJar (despite the OMGUS moment at his case, was consistent on his reads leading up to the lynch, and voted sensibly)
Tubesock (appeared tunneled, took responsibility afterwards, solid posting before and after)
Silver (complete null)
Shining (suspicious, don't like the lying, but his defense was otherwise convincing and he's improved in Day 2. willing to give him more time)
Gumdrop (suspicious, but he hasn't posted hardly at all. the only thing that doesn't make this a policy lynch is the point I asked him to clarify on EoD...and I'd like to see his answer before lynching him)

On to lynchables:

LS - <3 you, dude, but I think you're a solid lynch
+ all actives you townread (with the exception of shining at null), and all inactives you null read (scum WW as "worst inactive") - thanks to ExO (I think) for turning me on to this gem
+ only reaction to WWs soft claim was to ask him to claim
+ sudden rage after flip and saying you tunneled him...where? your reads put him as basically the worst of your nulls
+ meta point: afraid of lynching blues in all prior games

-Celestial- - not personal either, but you're my top choice
+ all three lynchwagons were scumread by you in your last Day 1 list post, with waffling back and forth on LS afterwards
+ kept saying WW lynch felt wrong, yet reacted to blue claim saying it wasn't enough to convince "us" (weren't you already convinced given your posts?)
+ more about WW lynch feeling wrong, but did nothing about it i.e. tried to get others to vote JarJar with you or change your vote to other two scumreads LS and Shining
+ lesser point, but you never mention my static vote on WW despite Shining case until I question you...why didn't it come up before in your WW lynch feels wrong posts?

Will place the vote here tomorrow morning, all things remaining equal. If anyone wants links to the posts behind those points, please ask. (Was going for readability.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 13:19 GMT
#852
Lol <3 you JarJar. That reads like how you explained you do your work predictions. Not really sure how you're quantifying things beyond assigning a percentage to your opinion...and a percentage amount to others voting for them...but there are the numbers.

For kicks and giggles later (I don't even need this before EoD but others may be more curious) could you give us your equation at some point? I was wondering how to "quantify" my reads, as well, cause settling on feels to determine the weight of the behavior seems very subjective. (Probably would use more inputs than just what the dead voters voted, though.) Thanks!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 14:01 GMT
#858
I'm going to be honest here. I'm unlikely to give what Celestial says much weight unless it's Eureka amazing because I'm fairly confident he is scum. (My only reservation is that he might be too new to understand how to play, but voting to try to get a "bad lynch" saved seems like common sense to me, even so.)

What do you think about Celestial's can't be assed to do anything when he is saying WW is a bad lynch, and Shining and LS both were scumreads of his at the time, HTS?

Also, re: Celestial's case on me, it could be summed up as:
- Blue-hunting first few posts (pretty sure no one thinks that but him at this point; correct me if I'm wrong)
- Keeping vote on WW (already explained)

Meh, no reason for me to even respond to it. Will say that there is a ton of words there to repeat the same things, though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 14:04 GMT
#860
Giving up, LS?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 14:10 GMT
#863
Why don't you try to push your top scumread? If you're town, that's the best thing you can do right now apart from fielding questions.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 14:13 GMT
#866
...Did you read my post? No, it wasn't directed at you, but I don't see where your defeated attitude is coming from.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 14:28 GMT
#869
...The post of who I wanted to lynch, LS. You're on it, but he's my top candidate. It's on page 43. This makes me think you're not reading. Anyway...

##Vote: Celestial

Time for work.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 19:38 GMT
#922
...

Came home to change for the going-away. Fortunately.

@Celeste if Scum (as I suspect)
Great move. Hard-claiming doc where any sensible doc won't CC, and you can pick off an unsensible one Night 2.

@Celeste if Town
You deserve every ounce of condescension before and that will continue coming your way for hardclaiming doctor with a strong counterwagon and over 8 hours to go. Truly an idiotic move. I hope your save is worth it. Truly. You're fing useless to us now and even if scum doesn't kill you Night 2 town is likely to Day 3. Thanks for throwing the game.

Bah >< I have to treat his claim like it's the truth.

##vote: friggin LS

LS, dude, if you have a case on anyone make it now. I'll try to get back from the going-away soon enough to review it. -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 19:53 GMT
#925
If it's the one about him only lynching towns that:

1. assumes that you are town, and I'm already scumreading you
2. assumes that Celestial is telling the truth, which I'm not sold on, and
3. also applies to Tubesock and myself, so why single out ExO?

I'll admit that I mostly just skimmed your case, and I'll look closer later, but that point above is not and never will be good enough for me to lynch a current townread. I will take the time to review your posts when I get back, though. I was less certain of you than Celestial.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 19:55 GMT
#927
Okay, I'm out. Vote changed in voting thread. Will try to be back before EoD with enough time to read/discuss. Otherwise...good luck ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 19:57 GMT
#928
On January 10 2015 04:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 04:53 rsoultin wrote:
If it's the one about him only lynching towns that:

1. assumes that you are town, and I'm already scumreading you
2. assumes that Celestial is telling the truth, which I'm not sold on, and
3. also applies to Tubesock and myself, so why single out ExO?

I'll admit that I mostly just skimmed your case, and I'll look closer later, but that point above is not and never will be good enough for me to lynch a current townread. I will take the time to review your posts when I get back, though. I was less certain of you than Celestial.

Then look at it after I get lynched then? Also lynch Celestial after lynching me after I flipped as town please?


If he's still alive Day 3, LS, regardless of who is lynched today it'll take an act of God to keep me from emulating a bulldozer on his ass. -_- Frankly.

If you believe ExO is scum, build a good case, man.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 23:29 GMT
#932
Lol I said a good case LS. Or at the very least point me to your suspicion so I can find what you're talking about.

Seems everyone is content with an LS lynch. I am, too, so can't complain.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 09 2015 23:42 GMT
#933
Tch...anyone else concerned that this is going undisputed? A single lynch train always bugs me. LS didn't post that much in his scum game...but here he's posted nearly 15% of the content in this game, higher than average.

HTS, Tube...have either of you ever known LS to have deep reads or strong cases? My issue with him is how he reacted to the blue claim more than anything else. It doesn't line up for me.

I know this could be a massive buss, but the silence is starting to give me doubts >< Anyone else even in the thread right now?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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