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ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 22:04 GMT

#735

@Celestial why do you think mafia NKed trfel?

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 22:26 GMT

#749

On January 09 2015 07:19 LightningStrike wrote:

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I not bothering because everyone is scum reading me. I giving zero fucks for now unless you provide a TLDR on the conspiracy stuff because I can't make anything out of that big post.

Holy fuck are you kidding me? You cant defend yourself unless he gives you something to defend it with? People think you are scum in part because you won't make a read without piggy backing off someone else. Now you can't even defend yourself?? If you are town you need to at least try.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 22:29 GMT

#753

@Celestial why do you think scum nked trfel?

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 22:31 GMT

#754

On January 09 2015 07:27 LightningStrike wrote:

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I BEEN TRYING WHY THE HELL I GIVING UP RIGHT NOW?

okay. then tell me your top 3 scum, with reasoning why. Lets start fresh and see where we end up.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 22:43 GMT

#759

@Celestial

Why do you think mafia nked trfel?

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 22:45 GMT

#761

On January 09 2015 07:43 Tubesock wrote:

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On January 09 2015 07:41 -Celestial- wrote:

On January 09 2015 07:29 Tubesock wrote:

On January 09 2015 07:25 -Celestial- wrote:

On January 09 2015 07:17 Tubesock wrote:

On January 09 2015 07:13 -Celestial- wrote:

On January 09 2015 07:08 Tubesock wrote:

On January 09 2015 07:06 -Celestial- wrote:

On January 09 2015 07:04 ExO_ wrote:
@Celestial why do you think mafia NKed trfel?

Just a sec I'm writing up a complete filter dive on LS because tube wanted a full analysis from me on my best target.

I was actually hoping you'd go after a more difficult target. The LS case is pretty much closed. I'm the only one defending him, and I have nothing but a tinfoil hat conspiracy.

Ugh...I've just spent like half an hour on this so far and he's by far my best read after the shenanigans on the other page. You don't want it? :-\

Well, I thought I made it clear. I think any case on LS now is a waste. The case on him, and his behavior is strong enough for all 9 of us to be on him. Shit, If I were Lightning I'd vote myself for how bad I am.

I mean there is literally 0 people towning him. I even said I'm probably ragevoting him. That means there better be 1 wagon with everyone on LS. Why build a case in this situation?

You're next I thought was Jarjar. Go after someone who we can go after D3.

Alright if we're so certain about the LS wagon for D2 I'll scrap this dive and have a look at someone else. I'll keep it in a word document in case we need it again though.

I'm going to need to work this out though before I can give you one. jarjar I didn't like primarily off the back of his D1 stuff, which I felt was largely useless and poorly thought out. His attitude post-flip though has been a LOT better and frankly I've not really been thinking ahead to the D3 lynch yet because we still have more than 24 hours of this to go, plus the full night to start thinking about D3 lynches.

I've got a reasonable feeling about Shining, but that might just be a hangover from D1. And I still don't like rsoultin's actions but I'm not sure if I can condemn because whatever I say about words vs actions her explanations seem to ring somewhat true. I've already mentioned my concerns about rsoultin earlier though when we were questioning each other after the D1 EoD flip.

You literally don't have a 2nd scum read?

Not one as strong as the one I now have on LS. Before LS my D2 preferred lynch was likely to be Shining based on a bunch of stuff from D1, largely because jarjar had redeemed himself post-flip.

The problem I'm having now is that your earlier posts coupled with reviewing the voting pattern has got me convinced that only one of Shining/LS is scum. So I'm having a great deal of trouble matching up those two contradictory things (the read on Shining coupled with the stronger read on LS).

What are your current thoughts on any potential LS/Shining partnership or have you ruled it out by now?

They are both town. In no world I see Trfel dying if there is 1 or more mafia in LS or Shining.

Walk me through this. Why wouldn't trfel die if just LS is mafia?

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 23:03 GMT

#766

On January 09 2015 07:51 -Celestial- wrote:

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Does the above answer your question? In short: main reason being disruption. Because it makes us doubt the three people up for vote on D1 because he didn't much like any of the targets.

It did to a degree. Let me ask you another question. Trfel said he didn't like any of the lynches. Having reread his filter a couple times, I found something to be odd. Before the it became apparent that WW or LS or Shining was likely to die, there was only one person whoose opening post he specifically mentions as being off. He never got to really expand on it, but can you guess who it is?

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 23:12 GMT

#773

well that settles it for me

##Celestial

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 08 2015 23:25 GMT

#779

On January 09 2015 08:21 -Celestial- wrote:

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I literally just stated that my case on jarjar was shaken by his massive improvement after the flip. Or did you miss that part? Or are you deliberately ignoring it?

You asked for a case and since you were bloody well doubting the LS read I thought it would be handy for you to convince yourself on it. If you don't want that then fine.

Other than LS, who are your top 2 scum reads and why?

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 09 2015 19:37 GMT

#921

Well im here on my phone. I'm not going to be able to really review anything before the end of day, as im headed to a movie right now. I think doctor should never hard claim but given the circumstances I could understand it. The only other person I could see as a lynch for now is LS so thats where I'm parking.

Ill be on for as long as I can, and if the movie starts on time I should be out just before EoD.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 09 2015 22:40 GMT

#930

Im here now. EoD is later than I thought. Im 99% sure LS is scum. I have some more thoughts to add that I'll add after the EoD.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 09 2015 23:46 GMT

#935

I am. and at least for me, I think it's a sign he's scum.

If he flips scum it'll be easy to see that scum all bussed him because they were afraid. And since he had a bit of attention on day 1 as well, I think it'll be easy to work out who might be scum.

Compare this to day 1, in which we lynched a town. The votes where everywhere. It'd be surprising to me if all the mafia ended up on the same town wagon.

On the other hand, if he flips town then this gets really hard. it could be that LS has had too much momentum on him all of day 2, but when Tube and I were both pushing Celestial nobody else even tried to get another wagon going, or jumped on Celestial....which now that I think about it might be revealing.

Still, we'll have a much better idea in 15 minutes.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 09 2015 23:59 GMT

#944

If LS is town, he played very poorly. He never could give out a read without relying on somebody else. He hopped on Celestial right after I did, (like within minutes) and then just OMGUS on me afterwards. If he's town he needs to really think about his gameplay

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 10 2015 00:03 GMT

#949

Are you fucking kidding me?

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 10 2015 00:05 GMT

#952

LS I hope you look over your gameplay. As town you have to make reads on people. You started off just being "everybody's town lets be friends" and then when called out for it you couldn't make reads except to piggy back off of what others said.

:/

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 10 2015 00:18 GMT

#956

There is something. I was debating whether or not to say this in public, but Celestial should die tonight right? Except mafia may leave him alive then push a lynch on him the next day for not dying.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 10 2015 00:20 GMT

#958

Also barring a doctor save tomorrow will be lylo. So if we have a cop, tomorrow he has to reveal and clear a few names.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 10 2015 01:19 GMT

#963

Im just worried about lylo espicially with so many inactives. I wish we had a vigi shot on an inactive night 1.

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 10 2015 14:38 GMT

#986

Its gonna have to wait. my video card blew out last night. im up early this morning to buy a new one but until I get my machine fixed I wont really being paying attention here.

Hopefully in a few hours itll be fixed and I can look over things. But fixing my machine takes priority over everything

ExO_

United States2316 Posts

January 10 2015 20:54 GMT

#1014

Computer is finally working again. I've been working on it since 9am.

I'm not sure what exactly rsoultin is trying to say here. That somehow I wasn't scum hunting? I feel like I'm one of the few in the thread that's at least tried. For all the talk, I pushed Celestial day 2, because I thought his play was scummy. Hell he might be scum now. I'm not 100% sold on his doc claim. But what did everybody else besides tubesock do? Just stuck on LS.

I scumread LS on day 1. I thought WW was kinda scummy too. And based on his play I feel like the lynch on WW was justified. For a blue town role, WW played like garbage. I think the same of LS, for a town role he played very poorly. And I can tell you since I scum read LS on day 1, it's very easy for me to stay on him day 2. I have an ego, I want to be right and be able to say "check out how good I am, I picked him out on day1!". But it didn't go down like that.

That being said, you've gotta be kidding me. I don't switch off of the votes day 1 because it wasn't necessary. I think I would've preferred LS lynch day 1, but the WW lynch made sense to me. And as I've said previously, I would've switched to WW if vote shenanigans went down at the last second.

My read on LS was wrong. But at least I'm trying to scum read people. And I'm trying hard not to tunnel vision on the first scum read I make.

If you have questions for me ask. I'll do my best to explain anything I've said. I can tell you for sure though I am not scum, and I think my play this game shows that.

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