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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 05 2015 22:11 GMT
#234
I think Shining owes a followup the most follow by Silverate, JarJar, then Gumdrop but I hope their activity does increase today and tomorrow!
Also don't feel embarrassed on not knowing Rsoultin is female because I didn't either. I guess I been playing with at least two girls since Student Mafia IV :O
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 05 2015 23:35 GMT
#239
I wont be home for about 3 hours after this post but Exo I didn't say everyone is town -.- As I said I needed more posts on some people to figure out their alignment and I had a null read on Shining on the stuff earlier but now it changed to town after his last post on this page. I will take a look on more stuff after this post when I get home and give my thoughts on them and try to find scum. See you guys until I get home!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 02:46 GMT
#268
Guys I just got back and I will fully explain my thought process on the stuff.
#1 @Exo I had some reads that I said I needed more posts to figure out their alignment so I should of just said Null instead of the comments I said and I know I don't have any real scum reads just yet and I still trying to figure out who is scum and who is not atm


#2 @JarJarbinks I'm a guy not a girl gosh you and Robik keep calling me a girl -.- But thanks for the defense but that HTS post that everyone over analyzed not mine.


#3 @HTS After reading some posts I decided to just read as Null but leaning town after people told me his post was a drive by post and left a lot to be desired but now I starting to town read him


#4 @Everyone here I now going to full explanation of my reads

1. rsoultin: Town: she been trying hunt for scum like her normal self in Student Mafia IV and Carol of the Bells Mafia where she was Vanilla Town in both games.
2. Half the Sky: Town: She made some silly posts at the start yes but everyone over analyzed them but not unusual from her type of entrance since she did similar entrances in Student Mafia IV and Carol of the Bells Mafia and she been asking some good questions towards The Shining and been following through her questioning and also defended her posts in a manor I feel townie from her.
3. ExO_ Town: He actively been scum hunting throughout today and trying to pressure people and normally this type of behavior comes from town players and honestly I not really confident in my scum reads unless it's based on meta on players I played with in other games.


4.Tubesock: Null leaning town: His posts seem to lack any content but his posting style seem to be the same as he did on Carol where I mislynch him like a dumbass in that game but I looking foward to solidify my town read on him.


5. -Celestial-: Town: He been trying to scum himself but he seem to lack confidence on his end on his reads which is something I notice on newer players on forum mafia coming from SC2 Mafia but he doing some decent questioning too.


6.JarJarBinks: Null: His posts seem to lack content but he said he is sick and I hope he feels much better soon but he also needs to step it up if he's town and help us find scum.


7.Grumdrop: Null: He not posted since his entrance post and hope he posts more but for now I need to place him somewhere so Null is the best place for him atm due to the lack of posts from him.

8.Tfrel: Null leaning town: He seem to be inactive but it due to irl so I hoping he post more tomorrow but he had some good questions on his few posts since the game started but we shall see.

9. Silverate: Null: I need more posts to get a clear read on her since she posted so little and I hope she post more tonight and tomorrow!

#5 @Tubesock I will give context to that post you said was worthless. HTS earlier in the thread asked me for my reads on the newer players at the time so that why I posted those reads.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 02:48 GMT
#270
Tubesock read my last post and tell me what you think of it?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 02:55 GMT
#272
Tubesock you were lynch in that game because I thought you did a scum slip on saying the mafia number count was 5 instead of 6 you said in the pregame of Carol and I'm sorry for lynching you it made my facepalm at myself when I saw you were town in that game and I think you are town in this game too
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:08 GMT
#276
On January 06 2015 12:04 jarjarbinks wrote:
My piggyback scumread! I know I am completely worthless day 1.

I've only played with Shining once before, but I would agree with Rsoultin on the Shining vote solely on his behavior in our last game when he was mafia in the early days of the game. She did the same thing, scumreading most people that scumread her each time. It is possible that she just always does that (I'm an easy target if you want to fire back Shining!), but I would say that the chances she's scum are higher than the solid 27% probability for the rest of ya'll.

Is it ok to pass judgement based on previous games?

What is blue hunting?

Sorry I called you a girl LS. You're last post had 0 scumreads. If you were to pick someone to lynch as of now who would it be?

Maybe Gumdrop but that mainly due to lack of posts from him since his entrance post and it not unusual for me to not have a total scum read early on in the game unless your name is sicklucker and I misread your trap >.>
Yes it's okay to judge based on previous games and it's what we call meta reads.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:12 GMT
#279
On January 06 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:
Lol @ Tube. You were lynched because I was a dumbass. It really was that simple. I wasn't even scumreading you xP just convinced that Templar was a mislynch.

Okay, so while I get why people are scumreading LS, I don't think that him giving reads on demand that are mostly town/null is all that scummy. By itself maybe...

But I really like this post of his, that features him asking others for reads and making a point on Trfel's "free" townie points that doesn't feel scum-motivated to me:

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On January 05 2015 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and Trfel I making one but it might take a few days for approval

I do agree that finding scum in a newbie game is looking at game play alone unless there is players that had played a game or two before this one. Then we can make meta cases but right now I not getting anything on peoples alignment I played with before (HTS, Tfrel, Rsoultin, Tubesock)

I don't know why people were nitpicking HTS pronouns though because I think she was just referring to me, Rsoultin and her since we were the only ones at the thread at the time of her post.

@Exo can you tell us what you thinking right now and why?

@Tfrel you don't give free town cred it's just not good logic there.

@Gumdrop Hi welcome to the thread it's a little hard on finding Scum Day 1 but it will get easier. Also can you give us your reads so far on who is town and who is not with explanations please?


He also has one of the longer filters.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:21 ExO_ wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:37 ExO_ wrote:
On January 05 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:
On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why Soultin thought it a bit hasty for HTS to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.

On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role?


Well, I am going to question things when they're not clear or seem out-of-place. Not sure how else to scumhunt cause I don't have a handy dandy scum divining rod. If you're implying that I'm bluehunting, though, not sure what you're basing that comment on apart from paranoia.

Care to enlighten us?


Rsoultin needs to post more, but I agree with this exchange in particular. Though I think her initial scum hunting was unlikely to produce anything, its better than not doing anything in the end. Shining looks like scummy with his post and right now looks like a good vig target to me (assuming we have a vig).

However her activity has severly dropped off after this exchange. Id really like to see more posts from her. leaning town for now

Rsoultin is a guy lol..... Also -Celestial- I did play the SC2 Mafia on Arcade mode too and I also play Town of Salem! Unfortunately TL Mafia and Fourm Mafia in general is quite different then Town of Salem and SC2 Mafia where it's not reliant on role claiming so early and also much faster Days and Nights.


Im afraid this isn't true, as I've played video mafia with her just a few days ago.

As far I know Rsoultin is a guy but until Rsoultin say he is a guy or girl my view wont change.Also I know we got at least 2 girls playing this game. Also what your thoughts on me?


Based on meta (which I know y'all don't like, but others can verify/dispute who have played with him) I don't see LS asking others' for their opinion on him out of the blue as scum. He's not that confident a player. He also has an almost ridiculous tendency to use meta arguments almost exclusively as town, which I see him doing again with his reads on Trfel, HTS and myself. Though at least he's confining it to players he's actually played with this game.

Scum or town, I <3 you LS. No offense intended lol.

I ,3 you too rsoultin also what is your thought my rather large post earlier?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:12 GMT
#280
On January 06 2015 12:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:
Lol @ Tube. You were lynched because I was a dumbass. It really was that simple. I wasn't even scumreading you xP just convinced that Templar was a mislynch.

Okay, so while I get why people are scumreading LS, I don't think that him giving reads on demand that are mostly town/null is all that scummy. By itself maybe...

But I really like this post of his, that features him asking others for reads and making a point on Trfel's "free" townie points that doesn't feel scum-motivated to me:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2015 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and Trfel I making one but it might take a few days for approval

I do agree that finding scum in a newbie game is looking at game play alone unless there is players that had played a game or two before this one. Then we can make meta cases but right now I not getting anything on peoples alignment I played with before (HTS, Tfrel, Rsoultin, Tubesock)

I don't know why people were nitpicking HTS pronouns though because I think she was just referring to me, Rsoultin and her since we were the only ones at the thread at the time of her post.

@Exo can you tell us what you thinking right now and why?

@Tfrel you don't give free town cred it's just not good logic there.

@Gumdrop Hi welcome to the thread it's a little hard on finding Scum Day 1 but it will get easier. Also can you give us your reads so far on who is town and who is not with explanations please?


He also has one of the longer filters.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:21 ExO_ wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:37 ExO_ wrote:
On January 05 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:
On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why Soultin thought it a bit hasty for HTS to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.

On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role?


Well, I am going to question things when they're not clear or seem out-of-place. Not sure how else to scumhunt cause I don't have a handy dandy scum divining rod. If you're implying that I'm bluehunting, though, not sure what you're basing that comment on apart from paranoia.

Care to enlighten us?


Rsoultin needs to post more, but I agree with this exchange in particular. Though I think her initial scum hunting was unlikely to produce anything, its better than not doing anything in the end. Shining looks like scummy with his post and right now looks like a good vig target to me (assuming we have a vig).

However her activity has severly dropped off after this exchange. Id really like to see more posts from her. leaning town for now

Rsoultin is a guy lol..... Also -Celestial- I did play the SC2 Mafia on Arcade mode too and I also play Town of Salem! Unfortunately TL Mafia and Fourm Mafia in general is quite different then Town of Salem and SC2 Mafia where it's not reliant on role claiming so early and also much faster Days and Nights.


Im afraid this isn't true, as I've played video mafia with her just a few days ago.

As far I know Rsoultin is a guy but until Rsoultin say he is a guy or girl my view wont change.Also I know we got at least 2 girls playing this game. Also what your thoughts on me?


Based on meta (which I know y'all don't like, but others can verify/dispute who have played with him) I don't see LS asking others' for their opinion on him out of the blue as scum. He's not that confident a player. He also has an almost ridiculous tendency to use meta arguments almost exclusively as town, which I see him doing again with his reads on Trfel, HTS and myself. Though at least he's confining it to players he's actually played with this game.

Scum or town, I <3 you LS. No offense intended lol.

I <3 you too rsoultin also what is your thought my rather large post earlier?

EBWOP: Fixed a symbol
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:22 GMT
#282
On January 06 2015 12:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:12 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 06 2015 12:06 rsoultin wrote:
Lol @ Tube. You were lynched because I was a dumbass. It really was that simple. I wasn't even scumreading you xP just convinced that Templar was a mislynch.

Okay, so while I get why people are scumreading LS, I don't think that him giving reads on demand that are mostly town/null is all that scummy. By itself maybe...

But I really like this post of his, that features him asking others for reads and making a point on Trfel's "free" townie points that doesn't feel scum-motivated to me:

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 05 2015 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and Trfel I making one but it might take a few days for approval

I do agree that finding scum in a newbie game is looking at game play alone unless there is players that had played a game or two before this one. Then we can make meta cases but right now I not getting anything on peoples alignment I played with before (HTS, Tfrel, Rsoultin, Tubesock)

I don't know why people were nitpicking HTS pronouns though because I think she was just referring to me, Rsoultin and her since we were the only ones at the thread at the time of her post.

@Exo can you tell us what you thinking right now and why?

@Tfrel you don't give free town cred it's just not good logic there.

@Gumdrop Hi welcome to the thread it's a little hard on finding Scum Day 1 but it will get easier. Also can you give us your reads so far on who is town and who is not with explanations please?


He also has one of the longer filters.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2015 02:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 02:21 ExO_ wrote:
On January 06 2015 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 06 2015 01:37 ExO_ wrote:
On January 05 2015 10:51 rsoultin wrote:
On January 05 2015 10:44 The Shining wrote:
On one hand, I can see why Soultin thought it a bit hasty for HTS to jump into the us vs scum mentality. Not knowing HTS from a hole in the wall also helps to make it a bit more odd for me that she'd jump in and be willing to be associated as an "us" with LS, unless she is in fact VT and believes LS is, too.

On the other hand, Soultin has already let it go and is now moved on to Silver. How am I to know you're not just going to question every one of us in the hopes of a slip or something that gives away a role?


Well, I am going to question things when they're not clear or seem out-of-place. Not sure how else to scumhunt cause I don't have a handy dandy scum divining rod. If you're implying that I'm bluehunting, though, not sure what you're basing that comment on apart from paranoia.

Care to enlighten us?


Rsoultin needs to post more, but I agree with this exchange in particular. Though I think her initial scum hunting was unlikely to produce anything, its better than not doing anything in the end. Shining looks like scummy with his post and right now looks like a good vig target to me (assuming we have a vig).

However her activity has severly dropped off after this exchange. Id really like to see more posts from her. leaning town for now

Rsoultin is a guy lol..... Also -Celestial- I did play the SC2 Mafia on Arcade mode too and I also play Town of Salem! Unfortunately TL Mafia and Fourm Mafia in general is quite different then Town of Salem and SC2 Mafia where it's not reliant on role claiming so early and also much faster Days and Nights.


Im afraid this isn't true, as I've played video mafia with her just a few days ago.

As far I know Rsoultin is a guy but until Rsoultin say he is a guy or girl my view wont change.Also I know we got at least 2 girls playing this game. Also what your thoughts on me?


Based on meta (which I know y'all don't like, but others can verify/dispute who have played with him) I don't see LS asking others' for their opinion on him out of the blue as scum. He's not that confident a player. He also has an almost ridiculous tendency to use meta arguments almost exclusively as town, which I see him doing again with his reads on Trfel, HTS and myself. Though at least he's confining it to players he's actually played with this game.

Scum or town, I <3 you LS. No offense intended lol.

I ,3 you too rsoultin also what is your thought my rather large post earlier?


The one with your explanation of your reads? Mostly just that you don't seem sure about anyone yet and are generally reading those who post a lot as town and those who post little as null.

I'd like to see more from you. So you don't find any behavior/posts scummy, just inactivity? Gumdrop would be a lurker lynch, I think you'd agree. Unless you're seeing something I'm not?

It's a lurker lynch yes but so were most of my null reads. The ones I read as town they were mainly asking some questions and and doing some pressuring but like half of the players here are inactive so it's hard to tell for me atm
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:28 GMT
#284
On January 06 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
So, just to clarify, you find none of the active players null or null leaning scum?

Correct. I'm sorry I'm bad this game on my scum hunting hunting on Day 1 but half of the players are inactive it kind of hard to find scum unless they are active :|
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:32 GMT
#286
On January 06 2015 12:29 Tubesock wrote:
Why not ask questions or discuss someone, Rsoultin posted a case on Shining. What do you think about that?

It's mostly a meta case as far I can read but doesn't help that there was formatting problems in the post so it hard to read but neverless it's a meta case on Shining and I never played with with him before so I don't know if it's normal behavior or not for him.
@Rsoultin can you link me a game he played as scum to reinforce your case on Shining so I can see it please? I think it might help me understand your case on Shining.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:46 GMT
#293
After reading your post again on Shining I think Shining might be our best lynch for right now it's seems a little questionable on borrowing other peoples reads but I done that as town myself. Yes it seems like his post on the interaction of you and HTS seems to contradict itself but that alone can't make him be scum which why you brought up his borrowing reads from other people it could be scum behavior or just new player behavior.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:48 GMT
#294
On January 06 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:
It's actually not meta, LS. It's that there are a lot of words with little content, and Shining's read on ExO seems to misrepresent ExO by claiming that ExO is just jumping from scumread to scumread with no logical line of thought. The only change I saw was switching off JarJar before he returned. Everything else was explained to my satisfaction, at least.

JarJar mentioned meta. He could link you.

Okay I thought it was a meta case since JarJar explained it was a meta case from you my bad.
@JarJar can you link me a game where Shining was Mafia please?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 03:59 GMT
#298
On January 06 2015 12:50 jarjarbinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 12:36 rsoultin wrote:
It's actually not meta, LS. It's that there are a lot of words with little content, and Shining's read on ExO seems to misrepresent ExO by claiming that ExO is just jumping from scumread to scumread with no logical line of thought. The only change I saw was switching off JarJar before he returned. Everything else was explained to my satisfaction, at least.

JarJar mentioned meta. He could link you.


Here's the link. Much more inactive game than this one I think the total is 17 pages.
I died halfway through the game. I think me rsoultin and shining were in it among others. Very embarrassing ending so it seems lol

https://www.starkingdoms.com/community/discussion/3840/finished-the-werewabbits-rise-again-village-lost-but-shining-and-kenshin-lost-the-mostest-/p16

I'll take a look through it and see if the behavior Shining is showing here is similar to his behavior on that game.

I going to bed for now guys and when I wake up I will read the game JarJar linked and also check the thread and see if anything new came up during overnight and tell you my thoughts on them!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 14:34 GMT
#325
Good morning guys I just woke up. After reading the game that JarJar linked me Shining is just as lurky this game as in that game but that game in general was inactive so hard to say if it's meta or not.

@Silverarte if you were Chaotic Neutral I would of had to policy lynch you but you aren't Chaotic Neutral.

Also I finding it funny you guys were going for one of my possible lynches for today in Gumdrop.

Also TheWarWaffle haven't done stuff since his two or 3 posts after proclaiming he found something in the Mafia XXX Guide on how to improve but one of his post gave his read on HTS although his breaking down on the opost by HTS was a little bit over analyzed and it seems odd for scum to do but he not posted at all after that.

@-Celestial- may I suggest you look at my past games as town because my is pretty the same way I play town I will give you links to my past town games if you want to look into my past town games.

Also since ExO and -Celestial- still think I'm scum but I think their inexperience with playing with me seems to show here but I will claim if I have to.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 14:36 GMT
#328
But for now I will vote foir TheWarWaffle since he looks the worst out of all of the lurkers in this game due to my last post.
##Vote: TheWarWaffle
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 14:43 GMT
#330
Here my past town games:
Campus Mafia as Cop Lynched Day 1: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
Carol of the Bells Mafia as Ghost of Christmas Present Won from Mafia conceding: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=LightningStrike
Metal Mini Mafia as Vanilla Town End Gamed/ Lynched: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 16:09 GMT
#339
HTS What you think of ExO's and -Celestial- case on me?
Also what you think of me and Rsoultin pushing TheWarWaffle?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 16:17 GMT
#341
Tubesock who you think is the best lynch today and why? I just wondering that's all.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#345
On January 07 2015 01:18 Tubesock wrote:
-Celestial-

Why is Rsoultin more scummy than Gumdrops, Trfel, Silver, and me? I get why you town ExO so hard, and HTS but not the next 3 on your list?

I didn't say Rsoultin was scummy wtf. Tfrel in his pregame gave a excuse that he going to be missing most of Day 1 and I going to see how he does in the Night stage and Day 2. Silver I think she is town she gave some decent explanations for her reads and asking some questions towards ExO although she isn't here because work atm so I fine with her for now. I might be bias towards you because I feeling very guilty of lynching you on Carol but so far I got a green check on you but I guess time for tell for me. HTS opening might be weird for people who not played with her a lot but her opening is similar on how she opened on Carol and Student Mafia IV and she been asking some questions and asking people for reads. I feel people over analzyed her 2nd post as I mentioned that earlier in the thread.
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