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On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1. I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote: On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1. I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum? What does that mean On December 31 2014 14:01 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry geript was to busy in scum qt to beat you to first this time. I've been having mafia withdrawls Should we lynch damdred for claiming scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yes. Slam dunk case. No point in him even defending himself really. Then why didn't you follow this up with a vote on him? | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 15:45 ritoky wrote: On December 31 2014 15:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yes. Slam dunk case. No point in him even defending himself really. Then why didn't you follow this up with a vote on him? I want the scum to show up in the thread before I shove it in his face. I"m an awesome vet and this guy is a chump if I've ever seen one. Keep it up, you'll nail everyone soon. I think ad that damdred has some splaining yo do. To do. I don't get the sense that you actually believe this in the slightest. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:20 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. i don't, why do you? i feel like i can just look at a particular situation and decide for myself if someone who was caught lying was town and trying too hard to do something cool or if they're mafia. and i'm putting all my votes on my best mafia read not on any policy. Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:I will also more or less ignore every single "town" plan involving mass claims, trying to rig/game the setup, it's way too hard to get everyone on the same page and it has never ever worked in my experience. just peeking at the setup real quick i'm almost positive this isn't going to be an issue, not seeing anything to game Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:How does everyone feel about lurking players? Lower than expected activity can indicate blue just as much as scum. I like when DTs focus their checks on the lurkers rather than players who are active. There isn't a great in thread way to deal with lurkers. If I analyse lurkers post history at all, I usually wait until Day 2 or 3, that's enough time for the people who are lurking for a reason to make themselves more apparent I think. not to be rude but this all seems obvious to the point of fluff... i rather just put all my votes on best mafia read and attempt to discern b/t town lurkers and mafia lurkers as the game goes along instead of making activity a point of interest. i don't worry about them until i get a vote record unless i'm really stumped verdict: Doc's post seems stiff and awkwardly timed, and I feel like most of the policy discussion that might ensue from this won't really get anywhere, but it beats chasing people up trees for opening game banter. I guess I like Doc as town for now This sure is a lot of words and not a lot of follow-up looking for alignment indicative information for you to arrive at a wishy-washy non-committal conclusion. I read this and learned basically nothing. Scum leaning. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote: Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot. "Weird" huh? I am interested in "weird". "Weird" how? What does this "weirdness" tell you about his alignment? Why do you have to "just point it out" for others instead of arriving at and sharing your own conclusions? | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He just did post his own conclusions on geript lol. Why are you so on peoples nuts this early, you're treating everythinf like you're 5 minutes away from posting some earth shattering case He didn't really say anything at all. Plus he described someone's play as "weird" with no qualifying explanation which is prototypical mafia day 1 early play when they don't have reason to throw scum on someone so they use a shitty superfluous descriptor. Why are you so interested in defending yourself instead of finding scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:10 sicklucker wrote: Can we kill ritoky so far hes attacked doctor and missed the sarcasm and now this. If he was being sarcastic in regards to damdred then his policy is a crock of shit and makes no sense. He is willing to give exemptions in his policy for people who are "joking"? He clearly stated he wants to get people who are impediments to town by shitting up the thread, particularly with lies, out of the game. A guy claimed scum, that is right in his policy wheelhouse, yet he chooses to ignore it entirely and write it off as nothing. So either: a) he doesn't actually give 2 shits about his policy and posted it as fluff to fill up the thread b) his policy is a pile of shit or c) he knows something about damdred's alignment and elected to ignore him claiming scum. If someone is gonna claim policy and then elect not to push on people because there is a "joking" exemption; that is just a load of horse crap. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: what if i said "im mafia" would you totally flip your lid? you look really bad right now. no, i would proceed to finding my 2nd scum. you came into the thread trying to change the thread sentiment from whimsical to serious and then you didn't follow through on it at all. you're defensive, not trying to find scum, and you have already failed to follow your own established policy. you're mafia. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You're clearly more concerned about flipping this (whatever this is) to make me look bad instead of the important thing which is your read on damdred. If you aren't 100% sure he's scum then there's nothing to even talk about, so I don't know what you're doing. i think he made a joke that has 0 alignment indicative information in it. but i am not the one spouting crap about policy lynching liars and shitters. you are, yet you choose not to follow through on that. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote: wouldn't your 2nd scum be damdred anyway? or do you not suspect damdred because this is all just bullshit and you're talking about nothing like i originally thought Do you think damdred is scum? | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why even bring up damdred claiming scum, something I dont sre h see that he even did if you dont think it matters? I didnt even know what you were talkimg about and youre trying to tie it into a fluff post i made to get the ball rolling. People are arguing and taking sides so I dont see it as that useless. Feel free to disagree, it doesnt matter because we are somewhere now. Because I think it is a joke that should probably not be regarded in the slightest., but policies like yours and people who maintain them don't leave gray areas for jokes. It is a policy. So you should not read it as a joke but as a scum claim. Yet you play it off like you're reading it as a joke. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You also don't seem to think damdred is scum. On December 31 2014 15:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yes. Slam dunk case. No point in him even defending himself really. On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. So should I lynch you according to your own policy? Cuz if you don't think he is scum for scum claiming then you just lied sir; even if it was supposedly sarcasm. @SL i think his policy is crap, he isn't maintaining it, and suddenly he has "joke" exemptions. furthermore i think he is a hypocrite and uninterested in finding scum. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:35 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 16:22 ritoky wrote: On December 31 2014 16:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You're clearly more concerned about flipping this (whatever this is) to make me look bad instead of the important thing which is your read on damdred. If you aren't 100% sure he's scum then there's nothing to even talk about, so I don't know what you're doing. i think he made a joke that has 0 alignment indicative information in it. but i am not the one spouting crap about policy lynching liars and shitters. you are, yet you choose not to follow through on that. ritoky, where's this going? My recollection of you from our newbie game as an insightful player who catches crucial details and asks on-point questions isn't matching up with what I'm seeing unfold before me right now. You claim to have caught Doc lying by not pursuing a policy lynch on a joke. Do you think this actually makes him mafia? i am a tunneler when i find something that doesn't add up, and i push until it does or that person dies. this guy comes into the thread makes a grandiose entrance about how he is gonna push his policy, then doesn't follow through with his policy at all. he then starts making excuses about not following through with it because someone claiming scum was a joke. news flash, i know it was a joke, but policies don't account for people joking they are black and white. nothing he has said thus far adds up to me understanding why he made an exemption in pushing the policy he wants to push in regards to damdred. he should have made at least a small comment about it and didn't; and when pushed to make a comment on it he responded with sarcasm, deflection, and being defensive. also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1. I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I dont usually support policy lynches but anyone caught in a lie deserves intense scrutiny and questioning imo I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it. Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post. I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote: also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia. I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit. wanna see my spreadsheet of my games played where i keep statistics? | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. you have demonstrated that you have read the thread and have an opinion on it, why don't you give reads on people? or do you have none? do you have a read on either of us in particular? "filter spammer" doesn't say anything about alignment. i think the content i have provided is substantive and indicates someone being at the least hypocritical and at the most scum. outside of that eden and geript are both in the leaning town pile for now. and SL is actually reading what people type, something he didn't do a whole lot of as town last game, so idk what to make of that yet. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:16 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:10 Eden1892 wrote: On December 31 2014 16:55 geript wrote: On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote: also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia. I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit. Ooh, my turn. Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion. Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc. Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere. Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker. we have played 3 games together, 1 was cancelled when we were both town. 1 was a cell game where we were both town. the other was the one with the holy grail where i was mafia and you were town (with mafia?). at least that is what i have in my spreadsheet. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:27 sicklucker wrote: So ritoky im more townie then in a previous game why dont you come out and say im town rather then "I dont know what to make of it yet" what makes you more town? i don't particularly think you're being especially townie as of now. as for reading you, i read you that way because i have never been in a game with you before (that i can remember) where i was town. my read on you last game was easy: i was mafia so manufacture it as needed. this game i am not, and the only thing that stood out to me last game as a way to read you town is that you stopped reading the posts of people once you decided they were mafia. you haven't vehemently declared anyone mafia yet, so that read hasn't really come into play. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:40 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:33 ritoky wrote: On December 31 2014 17:27 sicklucker wrote: So ritoky im more townie then in a previous game why dont you come out and say im town rather then "I dont know what to make of it yet" what makes you more town? i don't particularly think you're being especially townie as of now. as for reading you, i read you that way because i have never been in a game with you before (that i can remember) where i was town. my read on you last game was easy: i was mafia so manufacture it as needed. this game i am not, and the only thing that stood out to me last game as a way to read you town is that you stopped reading the posts of people once you decided they were mafia. you haven't vehemently declared anyone mafia yet, so that read hasn't really come into play. Dude I was mafia in final 3 in a game where you were town. Thats why im calling bullshit on your reads on me. We have never been the same alignment and you wont even admit you have mafia meta on me. As for not listening to people who I thought were mafia I was right about every single one of them. Even hf I was stringing along who I said was 95% mafia. So like your reads totally wrong and made up im calling you out. Your my top scum so far. well you left such an impression that i don't remember it at all. dunno why you think i have to have a read on you a couple hours into the game, especially a meta one. also don't know how one makes up not having a read, but apparently i did it. and if you're saying we are not the same alignment again, that means you're mafia. | ||
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note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile *geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now* artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile ^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^ *robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile* thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile *batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile* SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile vivax - no post *kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile* ritoky - town jesus drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile *rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now* superbia - no post | ||
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now that i am an adult and work in an emergency room, i know otherwise. | ||
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On January 01 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote: + Show Spoiler [wall of reads] + finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged: note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile *geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now* artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile ^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^ *robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile* thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile *batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile* SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile vivax - no post *kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile* ritoky - town jesus drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile *rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now* superbia - no post Forcing yourself to have a read on people that are null is pretty dumb and I have no idea why you consider me being torn on Chyz when there's been so many words on him scummy. Can you explain that to me? I also have no idea why you think that geript quote is super town. Whyo do you feel JAT is "bleeding town out of every orifice"? JAT has completely ransacked a bunch of good town players in one game and I haven't seen anything from him that I think he's incapable of doing as mafia. Why is Robik on the town pile when your reads state nothing townie about him other than a vague promise, and why is RoL scum for saying the exact same thing? Dr. H, your wall of texts tend to K.O. me. Could you run the most important points by me as brief as possible? forcing myself to place people in a definitive pile in my notes is more beneficial for me; particularly on day 1. i think most people should take definitive stances on players personally. the prevalence of null reads being seen as okay only allows mafia to hide better by giving them frequently and ignoring partners. as for you being torn on chyz, i was quoting your post: On January 01 2015 02:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:22 geript wrote: @Artanis. What do you think of sicklucker, Eden and Kelsier? I think those are the best overall flips. Ritoky could maybe be tossed in there too. Do you disagree with the following: Artanis, DrH, Chyz, Damdred I feel like I'm forgetting someone from this list but oh well. Missed this post earlier. I'd remove Chyz. I'm really torn on him right now. I think Eden is also likely town for prying into every little hole, though I haven't seen him play scum so I'm not sure if he does the same as scum but it fits his town meta even if the bit about Dr.H in the start was a bit weird. I definitely don't want to lynch him D1 in any case. I haven't paid much attention to sicklucker, and I like Kelsier for how he's been pressuring people and asking questions. Here's you stating you're torn on chyz and want geript to remove him from his town list. i see since you have moved on to placing geript as your top scum, will be interested in how you went from talking to him like he is pretty town right here to voting for him as scum when i get there in the thread. as for the read on geript. there's something really town about him electing to withhold information there when he is under pressure. like someone is prying into him for information and rather than be like "here you go to appease you" he tells the person to piss off and he will deliver it later. haven't caught up, don't know if he has. if he hasn't delivered then that's a probelm; if he has then he is town. re: JAT, he is town. read his filter, if you can't see why it is plain as day he is town then you're reading a different thread than i am. i think no one in the entire game is more town than JAT. i think i have only played with him once when he was mafia and like 4x when he was town. the 1 time he was mafia was really apparent based on his voting record. robik i am willing to wait a day on because i respect his aggro play as town, it makes an environment that is hard for scum to thrive in. he promises, if he doesn't deliver he dies tomorrow. plain and simple. i have some hesitations because he is doing a lot of reacting instead of acting which isn't his town style, but i am willing to hold off 1 day. you're misrepresenting my reads if you think my RoL read is the same: On January 01 2015 09:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: alrighty then. I apparently missed my role PM just got it. Hi everyone. Let me go catch up to the apparent 25 pages of most likely nonsense that has been posted. this post is a complete mafia lurker prototypical post. "hi i am here, everyone notice me for a second then forget about me, i am behind in pages that is why i am not doing well, will deliver on it later! also i don't have much time!" people who post like this especially early (that aren't named GB) never deliver the goods and usually squeak into the late phases of the game as mafia. | ||
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On January 02 2015 07:54 sicklucker wrote: @ritoky when did you vote me and why? you dont seem to give a read on me in that post . be back later i voted for you at the lunch period while i was at work @ like 3am, because i wasn't sure i would wake up before the deadline. i voted for you because i already had a slight scum read on you from your play making no sense and you being stuck in previous game bs; but what pushed you to the top was you coming into the thread right after i posted a massive wall of reads, nitpicking one tiny thing, giving 0 reaction, and moving on. as town, if you really thought i was scum like you apparently do, i feel you would go out of you way to attack and discredit my reads to establish definitively that i am scum or you would simply ignore them because they came from someone you think is scum. you did neither, which isn't what you have done previously as town. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:00 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think I was mafia in any game we played together ritoky?! in my spreadsheet i have you down as 1 mafia game with a note saying voting record. could be an error on my part, but my spread sheet is pretty op. maybe it was that 30 person cancelled game? | ||
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disregard that then. you could have just consolidated the first half of that post into saying you think chyz is deflecting off of his scum partner. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: huh? you don't wanna lynch geript today because you're reading him as disinterested town and scummy at the same time? what is this read? and i think this and a couple other points imply he believes chyz to be deflecting, if he makes this point without thinking geript is mafia then it makes no sense. he does, so i can understand it. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 07:50 ritoky wrote: + Show Spoiler [wall of text] + On January 01 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote: + Show Spoiler [wall of reads] + finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged: note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile *geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now* artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile ^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^ *robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile* thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile *batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile* SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile vivax - no post *kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile* ritoky - town jesus drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile *rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now* superbia - no post Forcing yourself to have a read on people that are null is pretty dumb and I have no idea why you consider me being torn on Chyz when there's been so many words on him scummy. Can you explain that to me? I also have no idea why you think that geript quote is super town. Whyo do you feel JAT is "bleeding town out of every orifice"? JAT has completely ransacked a bunch of good town players in one game and I haven't seen anything from him that I think he's incapable of doing as mafia. Why is Robik on the town pile when your reads state nothing townie about him other than a vague promise, and why is RoL scum for saying the exact same thing? Dr. H, your wall of texts tend to K.O. me. Could you run the most important points by me as brief as possible? forcing myself to place people in a definitive pile in my notes is more beneficial for me; particularly on day 1. i think most people should take definitive stances on players personally. the prevalence of null reads being seen as okay only allows mafia to hide better by giving them frequently and ignoring partners. as for you being torn on chyz, i was quoting your post: On January 01 2015 02:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:22 geript wrote: @Artanis. What do you think of sicklucker, Eden and Kelsier? I think those are the best overall flips. Ritoky could maybe be tossed in there too. Do you disagree with the following: Artanis, DrH, Chyz, Damdred I feel like I'm forgetting someone from this list but oh well. Missed this post earlier. I'd remove Chyz. I'm really torn on him right now. I think Eden is also likely town for prying into every little hole, though I haven't seen him play scum so I'm not sure if he does the same as scum but it fits his town meta even if the bit about Dr.H in the start was a bit weird. I definitely don't want to lynch him D1 in any case. I haven't paid much attention to sicklucker, and I like Kelsier for how he's been pressuring people and asking questions. Here's you stating you're torn on chyz and want geript to remove him from his town list. i see since you have moved on to placing geript as your top scum, will be interested in how you went from talking to him like he is pretty town right here to voting for him as scum when i get there in the thread. as for the read on geript. there's something really town about him electing to withhold information there when he is under pressure. like someone is prying into him for information and rather than be like "here you go to appease you" he tells the person to piss off and he will deliver it later. haven't caught up, don't know if he has. if he hasn't delivered then that's a probelm; if he has then he is town. re: JAT, he is town. read his filter, if you can't see why it is plain as day he is town then you're reading a different thread than i am. i think no one in the entire game is more town than JAT. i think i have only played with him once when he was mafia and like 4x when he was town. the 1 time he was mafia was really apparent based on his voting record. robik i am willing to wait a day on because i respect his aggro play as town, it makes an environment that is hard for scum to thrive in. he promises, if he doesn't deliver he dies tomorrow. plain and simple. i have some hesitations because he is doing a lot of reacting instead of acting which isn't his town style, but i am willing to hold off 1 day. you're misrepresenting my reads if you think my RoL read is the same: On January 01 2015 09:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: alrighty then. I apparently missed my role PM just got it. Hi everyone. Let me go catch up to the apparent 25 pages of most likely nonsense that has been posted. this post is a complete mafia lurker prototypical post. "hi i am here, everyone notice me for a second then forget about me, i am behind in pages that is why i am not doing well, will deliver on it later! also i don't have much time!" people who post like this especially early (that aren't named GB) never deliver the goods and usually squeak into the late phases of the game as mafia. I don't change my tone unless prompted when talking to my suspects. Geript remained civilized through the conduct and thus so did I. I find your reasoning pretty thin. You're inferring a lot from quite little with RoL and Robik and you're not being very specific with JAT. Maybe you can read him better than I can, or you haven't seen his Mafia A-game yet. I think you believe what you're saying though so I don't want to lynch you today. if you actually have that much control over your tone, that's a bit scary. and what reasoning is thin? gotta be more specific, and show me what "thick" reasoning on day 1 would look like. my read on robik is primarily from my personal value of him when he is town. i think he is great as aggro town, if you don't agree, meh don't care. RoL's only post is a prototypical mafia lurker post, it's not like i have a wealth of information to read him from and i am specifically not doing null reads in my notes. as for JAT, show me why he isn't town. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote: chyz, why does geript make your scum list but marv doesn't? and robik is omitted too even though listed as scum. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:57 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote: On January 02 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote: chyz, why does geript make your scum list but marv doesn't? and robik is omitted too even though listed as scum. But I'm town -- also, I'm back. I'm pretty tired though. Why are you town Ritoky...why did you have me as town? Your logic for the clear was really weak. i am town because i am town. i had you as town because in my notes i don't give null reads on day 1, it helps me. my read on you wasn't really logic at all it is my valuation of your abilities as aggro town and me thinking it is worth giving you a day to see if you deliver. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:02 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:01 ritoky wrote: On January 02 2015 08:57 IAmRobik wrote: On January 02 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote: On January 02 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote: chyz, why does geript make your scum list but marv doesn't? and robik is omitted too even though listed as scum. But I'm town -- also, I'm back. I'm pretty tired though. Why are you town Ritoky...why did you have me as town? Your logic for the clear was really weak. i am town because i am town. i had you as town because in my notes i don't give null reads on day 1, it helps me. my read on you wasn't really logic at all it is my valuation of your abilities as aggro town and me thinking it is worth giving you a day to see if you deliver. You're making it really difficult to buy what you're selling | ||
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Unofficial vote count: ritoky (2): sicklucker, superbia TheChyz (4): Eden1892, Vivax, batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica geript (4): Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, marvellosity Lazermonkey (1): TheChyz sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (1): Koshi Geript is set to be lynched thread exploded while i was cooking. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:48 GlowingBear wrote: Everybody knows filter length isn't alignment indicative for me. I've said at pre game that I was traveling and my activity would be low. I'm sorry I'm at the Caribbean, I suppose. My points on marv are 3 1) Filter length 2) scum not picking that (if people didn't actually pick it) 3) Him lurking and posting when I've threw suspicion on him. If you're all not up to lynch marv, Id like to lynch between Eden or Sicklucker, mostly. What I've read from geript made me have a slight townread on him, so I'm not lynching him. interested in your eden read, cuz i am kinda on the same page with the other 3 reads you have here. could you explain? or have you? | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 11:21 geript wrote: On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote: On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote: Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum) If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though. On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript. -Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi) -Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it) -Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler + On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote: Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. -A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned. -Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] + On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote: First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read. On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote: In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player. On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote: I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. 4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching. -Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler + On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today? Yes. One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me. Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind. Also have a look at batsnacks. But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2. On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do. Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch. Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am. Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation? I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town. I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3. You didn't post a gif why you no comment on his jat read that is basically my read? | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 11:34 ritoky wrote: On January 02 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 11:21 geript wrote: On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote: On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote: Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum) If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though. On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript. -Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi) -Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it) -Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler + On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote: Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. -A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned. -Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] + On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote: First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read. On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote: In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player. On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote: I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. 4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching. -Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler + On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today? Yes. One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me. Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind. Also have a look at batsnacks. But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2. On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do. Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch. Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am. Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation? I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town. I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3. You didn't post a gif why you no comment on his jat read that is basically my read? Out of everything he said that's what you want me to comment on? Really? A strong scumread shares a strong townread with a null slightly scum leaning player. How interesting. 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spends most of phase talking about why geript is mafia, randomly shennanie hammers a town for no stated reason coming off of the guy he hast stated is role hunting and mafia....guy was mafia last phase, still mafia this phase. needs to die immediately. like 0 questions asked. | ||
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On January 02 2015 16:37 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 16:34 ritoky wrote: so we're lynching sicklucker like...immediately and unanimously at the start of next phase right? spends most of phase talking about why geript is mafia, randomly shennanie hammers a town for no stated reason coming off of the guy he hast stated is role hunting and mafia....guy was mafia last phase, still mafia this phase. needs to die immediately. like 0 questions asked. Welcome back to the land of the living. (I apologize in advance if anyone died in the ER.) What happened to pushing this read when you had a chance to get him lynched? i mean, i don't like making excuses and don't like reading people's excuses, but i am young without a family, so i am an ideal candidate for working 12 hr shifts in the ER during the holidays. pays out the ass tho. you're right i probably could have and should have pushed for my lynch more. i won't make that error again because apparently we shannanie onto stupid targets for no good reasons. and my scum reads hammer them. sicklucker needs to die immediately, his vote on bats makes no sense is ridiculous and the most deflective crap ever off of someone he spent all day railing against. after that marv needs to die because his read on me is still lazy, he hasn't delivered anything, and he seemed way too content with proceedings yesterday. did not even attempt to steer the message/agenda. then after we are done with the 2 guaranteed mafia, i will probably have found more. | ||
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add him to the pile with SL and marv. don't know why everyone here is avoiding talking about SL like he is the plague, the guy is the most clear mafia in the game. first, he gives a light scum read on me early on in the game for some weird stuff about me not remembering a previous game and slaps his vote on me for nearly the entire phase. he then proceeds to not push that read or actively attempt to get me lynched in the slightest. he pursues trying to scum read other people while leaving his vote uselessly on me. then comes his geript read, something that he goes into a vast amount of detail on and actually develops his own non-meta reasons for reading geript scum. finally late in the phase he moves his vote onto geript. only to very quickly after that shennanie onto batsnacks for no stated reason and hammer a town who the best case on him was meta. to summarize that 2nd point: he spent the majority of the phase developing HIS OWN non-meta scum read on geript only to defer to SOMEONE ELSE'S meta read on batsnacks without a damn word about it. that makes absolutely no sense, especially for him. he is a player who is relentless on his own reads and not quick to defer to others as town. this is not town SL, this is not town period; he is mafia and should be lynched immediately upon the start of the day. | ||
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On January 02 2015 20:17 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 15:38 sicklucker wrote: Towns in a really bad spot I think. I still feel like most of us if not all of us are town but now we look like shit. GAME OVER MAN. This has a flair of some cynical happyness that only scum can have. i also don't get the "look like shit" part if he is town. being concerned with image and appearance is something mafia does. | ||
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On January 02 2015 20:33 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 20:24 ritoky wrote: koshi can you explain your damdred read? or have you in your filter and i missed it? No. It's pure gut. I can't explain it. He is also not somebody I wouldn't lynch D2 and maybe D3 if he kept up playing exactly like he is now. But I can't put him as town. He is off somehow. hm, i will have to give his filter a re-read tomorrow morning then; i might have just filed him away as town after he gave a couple reads i liked early on. | ||
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##vote: sicklucker unless i see anything as i catch up that makes him not pretty much automatic mafia | ||
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On January 03 2015 13:55 Eden1892 wrote: OK, verdict is in. I think sicklucker is town. I don't want to kill him today, maybe ever. Yes it's derpy as hell that he says he changed his vote off geript to batsnacks because he "wasn't confident" in the read on geript, even though he has multiple posts that basically say geript is definitely mafia. But: (1) His story on his four town reads is completely consistent and held up despite direct questioning. He had explicitly townread three of them and implicitly townread a fourth well before he justified his vote switch by sheeping his townreads. (2) Sheeping one's townreads off of a vote you like to another wagon late is definitely something a townie would do, and seems like something a townie is more likely to do than a mafia, because a mafia would be worried about how bad "sheep townreads onto a town flip" would look afterwards. (3) The stars had to have aligned colossally for sicklucker to be mafia and be able to make any kind of strategic switch to kill batsnacks with the rationale that he sheeped his four most consistent town reads. You can't make this up. There's a lot of things really wrong with this defense of SL. 1) It is a post-flip justification not a pre-flip justification; there's a large difference there. He waited around until after people brought up points against him to lay out why he decided to vote swap. If he had been forthright then maybe this is a point, he wasn't so it is not. 2) Sheeping the people you read as town is something people do as either alignment particularly when all of them move. The 2nd part of this seems to imply that geript is mafia. If SL is mafia and both geript is town and bats was town, then it looks equally bad regardless of which you finally land on. However this looks really bad because of points I brought up earlier that I will reiterate in a moment. 3) Talk is cheap, post flip-excuses are easy to find. Votes and vote logic or lack thereof are definitive things, SL drastically lacked. This is a person who is SO adamant about his own reads. He spent an entire phase developing a scum read on geript and from everything I have read up until here that read has not evaporated in the slightest. Only to defer to SOMEONE ELSE'S read that is based on meta. Like I cannot get over this. Why would he as town, with the way I remember him playing town, switch from a non-meta read that he devoted effort into developing to someone else's meta read? It makes absolutely no sense, and he is mafia for it. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:10 sicklucker wrote: I dont have any "meta" read ritoky and nothing you just said makes me mafia you believed in jat's lynch on bats. jat's lynch on bats was almost entirely a meta case. you elected to defer from your non-meta case on geript to believe jat's meta case on bats. that is not something you do as town. you are not town. you also had that post worrying about looking like shit. appearances and perception are for mafia. On January 02 2015 15:38 sicklucker wrote: Towns in a really bad spot I think. I still feel like most of us if not all of us are town but now we look like shit. GAME OVER MAN. lynch this guy. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:13 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:12 sicklucker wrote: like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread? This is actually true. Ritokys posts are really awful. i have yet to see a reason why SL is town in the entire thread. | ||
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still think it's: SL marv vivax vivax because that post by koshi on sequencing is really good, altho when i looked in the vote thread i had some hesitations. maybe i will uncover more as i catch up | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:18 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:15 ritoky wrote: On January 04 2015 08:13 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 08:12 sicklucker wrote: like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread? This is actually true. Ritokys posts are really awful. i have yet to see a reason why SL is town in the entire thread. and definitely no reasons why im mafia. Are you going to waste your day 2 afk voting on me and doing a half assed case? If your town at least try to make me look scummy today so I can properly read you as such. what don't you understand here? you hammered a town with no pre-flip justification. your post-flip justification was sheeping your town reads. you sheeped a town read on a meta case on bats; instead of sticking to getting your lynch on geript who you had spent the entire phase developing a NON-meta scum read on. it's pretty open and shut imo. you're mafia. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:18 ritoky wrote: marv is still mafia too, his reads are really lazy and stale. still think it's: SL marv vivax vivax because that post by koshi on sequencing is really good, altho when i looked in the vote thread i had some hesitations. maybe i will uncover more as i catch up Why are you bein so lazy ritoky? You did no vote analysis on what happened yesterday and no thought process sabout whats going on now? You said SL is mafia but you have vivax down but you vote SL over vivax who is the vote leader? Shouldn't you be happy with whats going on? What are you doing? i am like 50 pages behind; and i think someone is confirmed mafia and want to lynch him because it is plain as day and every1 has the wool over their eyes. i am less sure on vivax, plus marv is voting on him and marv is mafia. so just lynch SL who is 99% mafia first. voting analysis is hard when there's 1 vote. i will post it colored for myself soon when i catch up in the thread. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can't tell bad from scum in Ritoky though. He just seems to be playing really badly. then tell me why SL is town. i have asked multiple times and no1 is giving a reason. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:35 sicklucker wrote: Well you see im actually playing this game and artanis can see my train of thought and has similar thoughts so he knows im town. Thats why you contribute even if your bad so people can actually read you. calling people bad when they ping you out as mafia, he's done it like 3x this page. mafia signs all over the place, am i seriously the only one seeing this? | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:39 sicklucker wrote: I dont call you bad for saying im mafia. Im calling you bad for saying im THE ONLY MAFIA now you're just plain silly. you even quoted this post in response. On January 04 2015 08:18 ritoky wrote: marv is still mafia too, his reads are really lazy and stale. still think it's: SL marv vivax vivax because that post by koshi on sequencing is really good, altho when i looked in the vote thread i had some hesitations. maybe i will uncover more as i catch up | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away. Quick thought list I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page. Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! especially when you look at a post like this: On January 04 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:18 ritoky wrote: marv is still mafia too, his reads are really lazy and stale. still think it's: SL marv vivax vivax because that post by koshi on sequencing is really good, altho when i looked in the vote thread i had some hesitations. maybe i will uncover more as i catch up Why are you bein so lazy ritoky? You did no vote analysis on what happened yesterday and no thought process sabout whats going on now? You said SL is mafia but you have vivax down but you vote SL over vivax who is the vote leader? Shouldn't you be happy with whats going on? What are you doing? he doesn't seem really all that indignant or perturbed in terms of tone. it is just too calm, like he is completely content. that and damdred seems to be moving his scum reads to whomever is in season rather than holding to them. i remember him being more firm as town. he could be mafia too. | ||
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On January 04 2015 09:07 Damdred wrote: I'm not really getting ritokys read on me, people say i'm defensive ritoky says i'm completely content. I really smell bullshit honestly. The game marches forward I should take in all the evidence and re evaluate as I go along, Ritoky says i'm moving my reads to whoever is in season? But I think i've been pretty consistant with who i've went after so far. On January 01 2015 03:21 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you? Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why? Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters. I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read. However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value. I think I somewhat disagree, I think its valuable because of being able to figure out alignments. But that's not exactly my point. The point is laz is giving drh a free pass for the day even though he says deh says a lot of bad things but its more of a null read. (reads like setting up a mislynch later) The Eden read seems like a scum read without any real conclusions. And the rit part is just null. I just don't like where he's going and seems made up a bit here's you being overly polite. On January 02 2015 02:39 Damdred wrote: You put a good bit of work in but i'm just not sure if that makes him mafia necessarily. abbreviated quote for space, here's it again with you commenting on drH's case. i mean i am like 2 pages in with 5 examples i can pull of you being excessively polite when there's no cause. i like lazer's read. i don't think you're defensive in the slightest i think you're content. people reading you otherwise have a poor read. your scum reads are not consistent at all. first and foremost here's the best i can make of your d1 scum reads: lazer slight scum read altho you weren'tfully on the gas (but no vote). then no more all day. then shennanie on bats for bad reason. your n1 scum reads: On January 03 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote: SL I think would be the scum there especially since he ws the hammer vote I believe and even though he stated he wanted to hammer geript he didn't do it then sounded pretty smug after the flip. outside of SL you bring back up your lazer read, suddenly after seeing drH as town all day the previous day you have a scum lean on him. end of night phase: On January 03 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote: Sl I think is super suspect with how he's been acting and jumping back and forth. robik idk he could be scum but more bullish for now. your lazer read is neglected (only consistent read), robik has appeared out of thin air and SL is still scummy. drH is gone again. todays reads: On January 04 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote: I actually would rather lynch into super, lazer and ritoky now. suddenly lazer is back, i have made an appearance, and super is here; but robik is gone. I wouldn't call this consistent. lazer/bats -> SL/lazer/drH -> SL/robik -> Lazer/super/ritoky I would in fact call that quite seasonal. Your only consistent read is lazer. Further it is almost like you're distinctively attempting to avoid reading what people call "tier 1 players". You don't give definitive stances in terms of scum reads on almost any major thing happening in the game. So either you think all of these people are town fighting in which case you're not doing much to stop it or you are positioning yourself to have no real definitive stance so you can fall on whatever side is best for you. So pardon me if I think that lazer has a couple good points and after i heeded koshi's advice to look at your filter I found my own question marks. (see what i did there with the over-politeness?) | ||
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On January 06 2015 17:05 sicklucker wrote: Towns getting lynched is whatever. Look at mspaint where me dandred,slam,and chezinu were all mafia. We steam rolled them so hard and had a 50/50 shot that no one tried . We got overconfident lurked and didnt try then all got killed in quadriple lylo. Ritoky, palmer, super are doing this basically probably your partners. Naw I turned it on late game and steam rolled you fools. Been away for a while cuz of irl stuff. Take that for what you will. Incoming flurry of posts. | ||
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I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in Coming back to this later hopefully, first glance notes: - voting pairs: artanis & drH ; damdred & SL ; lazermonkey & palmar - lots of confirmed towns have voted on vivax - Marv has been on the secondary wagon both times - ritoky and superbia have yet to cast a vote on either of the primary 2 wagons - drH and Artanis are the only living players to have directly contributed to both lynches | ||
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He has scum read superbia and ksc for pushing for a reason for his read on a "blatant" soft that literally 0 people picked up on. But then he changes his story entirely claiming to have a green on damdred now instead; which first and foremost is a load of crap, however when he changes his story for who his green check is on, he doesn't change his reads. He continues reading superbia and ksc scum for pushing for a reason on a FAKE check that he has admitted to lying about; and keeps that as a base presmise of his read. Then to put the cherry on top he lumps me in with ksc and superbia claiming that I joined in on the pressuring of the cop. Only to rescind the claim entirely because it is the biggest crap claim since my fake cop claim with a green check (going to talk about that next); yet after that he doesn't rescind or modify his scum reads at all even though they are predicated on him lying to people, them noticing the lie and pointing it out/seeking justification. On January 05 2015 15:10 sicklucker wrote: Like reminder lets not talk about cops untill day 3. ritoky,ksc,sup spent more time worrying about it then scum hunting. ksc didnt even vote because he was too occupied asking me stupid questions. Like I probably die tonight I would like to remind you that I did not post between when you claimed cop and when I voted, yet here he is lumping me in and placing blame. You want to scum read me for being disengaged from the game? That's fine (WIFOM: I post more and am more engaged as mafia, look it up). But to accuse me of this stupid shit is just a lie. It is just setting me up as ML bait. Now as I mentioned before, his claim is the worst since I bungled the crap out of a fake cop claim about 5 months ago? Not exactly sure, been sifting through my games trying to find the posts so I can quote them, no luck so far. If I find them I will quote them. The point is, I did something VERY similar to what SL did in terms of cop claim, where I faked a check, changed my story, and in night phase I rescinded my claim. It was met with such utter hostility and regarded as the worst play people had ever seen both during and after the game. One person in particular was championing that: Robik. He was mafia in the game, so his in game comments are negligible but he spent 2 solid pages after the game railing into me about how it was the worst play ever and he would lynch the living hell out of anyone who did that stupid crap as either alignment. In this game? He seems to have simply accepted it with 0 qualms. Robik could very well be mafia here. | ||
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On January 06 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 20:00 ritoky wrote: Now as I mentioned before, his claim is the worst since I bungled the crap out of a fake cop claim about 5 months ago? Not exactly sure, been sifting through my games trying to find the posts so I can quote them, no luck so far. If I find them I will quote them. The point is, I did something VERY similar to what SL did in terms of cop claim, where I faked a check, changed my story, and in night phase I rescinded my claim. It was met with such utter hostility and regarded as the worst play people had ever seen both during and after the game. One person in particular was championing that: Robik. He was mafia in the game, so his in game comments are negligible but he spent 2 solid pages after the game railing into me about how it was the worst play ever and he would lynch the living hell out of anyone who did that stupid crap as either alignment. In this game? He seems to have simply accepted it with 0 qualms. Robik could very well be mafia here. you were town there? yes i was VT, fake claimed cop with red check on someone, rescinded the red check and said actually had green check on diff person, then rescinded cop claim in night phase. not exactly same case as here, but similar enough to where robik should have freaked at least a little. | ||
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On January 06 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 20:04 ritoky wrote: On January 06 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 20:00 ritoky wrote: Now as I mentioned before, his claim is the worst since I bungled the crap out of a fake cop claim about 5 months ago? Not exactly sure, been sifting through my games trying to find the posts so I can quote them, no luck so far. If I find them I will quote them. The point is, I did something VERY similar to what SL did in terms of cop claim, where I faked a check, changed my story, and in night phase I rescinded my claim. It was met with such utter hostility and regarded as the worst play people had ever seen both during and after the game. One person in particular was championing that: Robik. He was mafia in the game, so his in game comments are negligible but he spent 2 solid pages after the game railing into me about how it was the worst play ever and he would lynch the living hell out of anyone who did that stupid crap as either alignment. In this game? He seems to have simply accepted it with 0 qualms. Robik could very well be mafia here. you were town there? yes i was VT, fake claimed cop with red check on someone, rescinded the red check and said actually had green check on diff person, then rescinded cop claim in night phase. not exactly same case as here, but similar enough to where robik should have freaked at least a little. So what are you doing? You spend multiple paragraphs throwing shit on sl for making a play that you also did as... town? Then Robik acted one way as mafia, and acts a totally different way this time, so he is mafia? How does that make sense? my post isn't about his claim, i actually have a lower scum read on him now than i did before, i don't instantly want to lynch him. my problem with him is his reads. he bases his current scum reads on people calling him out on a lie that he has admitted to as being a lie. yet he doesn't seem to question people who just accepted his lies with 0 questions. that's my issue. he has moved up from instant-lynch to like 3rd lynch status. did you not read it? i said disregard his in-game comments. my point is he was still freaking about it for 2 or more pages AFTER the game. claiming as either alignment he would shit all over the claim and lynch it every time. | ||
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On January 06 2015 20:11 marvellosity wrote: oh right i see. what was his reaction during the actual game? can't remember it exactly, hence why i am looking for it. i think i soft claimed cop with a check, but didn't want to out the check until later in the phase, he spammed me with caps until i outed the check. then when i changed the check he really wanted to lynch me but someone talked him out of it. then when i rescinded the cop claim entirely he went ape shit. don't quote me on that exactly though, like i said i haven't found the game yet. | ||
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i know DrH has fallen off a bit from his day 1; but his day 1 was pretty fucking town now that i am removed from my anger of trying to equate hypocrisy = mafia on him. it is just really hard for me to imagine DrH as anything but town this game. artanis has voted with DrH and contributed to both of the lynches in the game, and artanis' play is really really town. i think him and DrH are two towns who have been sheeping the wrong cases and/or have bad reads. kelsier i have as town because he has had similar thought processes as me a lot of the game and i have read his train of thought (particularly on SL) and can really follow it. | ||
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On January 06 2015 20:18 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 20:12 Vivax wrote: On January 06 2015 19:59 marvellosity wrote: you literally gave it as your prime example to counter my argument that the largest filter pushing things at EoD was never mafia. So you must have felt it was pretty worthy. Now you downplay yourself. It doesn't matter as I was talking about my general level of scum play to SL, overall I always have low activity and in that particular case I had a surge of activity when I saved Obi from getting lynched over another townie for obvious benefits. I never had the largest filter as mafia and I only made it once to endgame, that's a fact. then why the shit were you trying to use it as an example to counter my point about largest filter + trying at EoD? just randomly decided to ditch half my premise or something? Cause I was thinking JAT was mafia for reasons mentioned and then you popped up with a filter size argument in spite of all that I posted. I knew of myself that I pushed things at EoD as mafia and saw that as a reason to not townread people easily for it. But in my case the filter size is a very good predictor. Not even 40 posts in titanic, and 6 pages in LVIII. I just cba to be active for no reason as mafia. Won't be talking further about this as it increases the distance to my arguments for SL being scum. Not sure why you think he's obvious town when he was incoherent with his mentioning of reads and got cold feet when I scumread him. I am conflicted on SL, because I can understand the perspective of fake claiming cop and the shit he did (as I explained before) coming from a VT perspective; but I also don't understand how his reads are so stagnant and he scum reads people very hard for calling him out while he is straight lying to them (admittedly so at that). So could you quickly explain to me why he is scum in your eyes. Or quote a previous post, I have forgotten a lot of things trying to catch up with nearly 100 pages of thread. | ||
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On January 06 2015 20:16 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 20:14 ritoky wrote: On January 06 2015 20:11 marvellosity wrote: oh right i see. what was his reaction during the actual game? can't remember it exactly, hence why i am looking for it. i think i soft claimed cop with a check, but didn't want to out the check until later in the phase, he spammed me with caps until i outed the check. then when i changed the check he really wanted to lynch me but someone talked him out of it. then when i rescinded the cop claim entirely he went ape shit. don't quote me on that exactly though, like i said i haven't found the game yet. the thing is, right, what people say they would do when they're not in-game doesn't necessarily reflect on what they would do in-game, for a whole number of reasons the important reference is how they dealt with it in-game, and if they're dissimilar, then that's actually a decent argument for robik being town, primarily because he's not shitting the thread up about a claim that's actually very likely to make sl town. i think post-game is more relevant because it is agenda-less and he has no reason to lie at that point. which should convey his actual feelings about claims like that. the fact that he is masking that here is odd to me. as i said, i am undecided on it leaning toward it making him mafia. | ||
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I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc) IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = my town reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. I think if you look at the votes with these reads, the first vote in particular is highly interesting. I would bet quite a bit on there being 2 mafia between SL, damdred, and robik. There's no way the first day lynch was 100% townies. SL was the hammer vote on a town...ugh that guy is so confusing to me now. I still find marv being on the second wagon BOTH times as really bizarre and makes me for certain want to keep him in my scum pile. Like my eyes were drawn to it last time, and when I redid it with my top 3 town reads I noticed it again. Also GB's no-vote on day 2 is a really big problem for me. I don't really have a good read on him at this point; and no good vote info is even worse. | ||
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On January 06 2015 20:44 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 20:42 ritoky wrote: I still find marv being on the second wagon BOTH times as really bizarre and makes me for certain want to keep him in my scum pile. Like my eyes were drawn to it last time, and when I redid it with my top 3 town reads I noticed it again. You are aware that I go to bed several hours before deadline (being european), and on d1 batsnacks didn't have a single vote when i went to sleep, yes? it's like scumreading me for not being awake at 5am. it's ... ridiculous. idk i still haven't really gotten over how shallow your reads on day 1 were, particularly your read on me. in the past i have doubted my day 1/night 1 reads pretty heavily later in the game and changed them quite a bit only to see in endgame that my day1/n1 reads were like 75% accurate. i scum read you and SL in particular in that time frame and koshi sold gave a pretty good sequencing case on vivax that i liked. so i am not coming off those reads very easily. | ||
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On January 06 2015 20:57 Lazermonkey wrote: SL didn't say who he checked? he rescinded his cop claim entirely saying he isn't cop....after he changed his fake green check from you to damdred. | ||
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I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc) IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = my town reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him. I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart. because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read. so my scum team right now is: 1) marv 2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL. 4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me 5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5. | ||
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On January 06 2015 21:08 Damdred wrote: Its to early to be up for me but here I am. Sl is more than likely town in this case honestly, I really doubt that a mafia under no pressure of being voted out would claim just to get the cop to out. Ithink that its an obvious ploy to get a bullet like they would in video mafia I suppose. Ritoky have you found that game with robiks reaction yet? yeah it was in TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia, but he played as a hydra with mocsta....so it kinda fucks my read a bit. also his post game rant is a bit less than i remember it being. that read might actually be irrelevant. but to give you a small taste: On June 25 2014 05:08 roundabound wrote: This is a fucking accurate depiction of you. THIS IS YOUR FUCKING FAULT. Why hasn't host ended game yet? this is fucking dumb. On June 25 2014 05:48 roundabound wrote: ritoky, you're an idiot. please never do that ever again. sincerely, everyone but mafia there has to be mafia on that ritoky vote. brb the salt is a little less than i remember and he even has a bit of a compliment in post game after he says it was a bad play in: On June 28 2014 06:22 IAmRobik wrote: Ritoky almost handed town the game if he came out with the correct reads. so yeah that read is crap i think, scrap it. | ||
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On January 06 2015 21:31 sicklucker wrote: Vivaxs right that list is bs because hes in it. With me and robik... Like in your world ritoky vivax has to be town why dont you just come out and say that? On January 06 2015 20:48 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 20:44 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 20:42 ritoky wrote: I still find marv being on the second wagon BOTH times as really bizarre and makes me for certain want to keep him in my scum pile. Like my eyes were drawn to it last time, and when I redid it with my top 3 town reads I noticed it again. You are aware that I go to bed several hours before deadline (being european), and on d1 batsnacks didn't have a single vote when i went to sleep, yes? it's like scumreading me for not being awake at 5am. it's ... ridiculous. idk i still haven't really gotten over how shallow your reads on day 1 were, particularly your read on me. in the past i have doubted my day 1/night 1 reads pretty heavily later in the game and changed them quite a bit only to see in endgame that my day1/n1 reads were like 75% accurate. i scum read you and SL in particular in that time frame and koshi gave a pretty good sequencing case on vivax that i liked. so i am not coming off those reads very easily. this is why. | ||
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On January 06 2015 21:33 Damdred wrote: Vivax list made me lol, and laughed wven more because SL bought it. Anyway, I see ritoky. What do you think of Palmar ignoring the fake claim as cop or just the claim during the day last phase? Are you not worried about Dr h super drop off the planet and going back on policy so far? I think marv is mafia and if marv is mafia, it is very unlikely that palmar is mafia with him. There's a chance but I doubt it. However, evaluating it individually I think it is kinda consistent with his play all game thus far. He ignores a lot of the "main topics" and talks about shit he thinks is relevant. So it isn't out of the ordinary for him to not discuss it. Now I don't know his scum/town history well enough to know if that is an indicator one way or the other; ask someone else that. Am I worried about DrH? No, with a very tiny yes. Could I be wrong on him? Yes, because of his drop off. Do I think that is the case? No. His day 1 is too towny for 1 day of drop off to overrule imo and on top of that when he came back to the thread claiming to be way behind, he posted like he was way behind and out of the loop. Also he hasn't really posted since this sequence: On January 05 2015 15:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote: is sl the cop or not btw can I get a straight answer On January 05 2015 15:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 15:04 Damdred wrote: SL hardcalimed cop says he green checked me no one.should consider lynching either of you then without a cc which means if there real cop is out there you need to cc asap on day 3 so to say he has gone back on policy in regards to SL as of right now is a stretch. it is basically the same as when SL accused me of attacking his cop claim when i didn't post during the entire thing. | ||
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On January 06 2015 21:35 sicklucker wrote: So i your town ritoky your wrong about someone so try to figure it out darling what is this supposed to say? "So in your town ritoky you're wrong about someone so try to figure it out darling"? is that what you were trying to ask? | ||
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On January 06 2015 21:47 sicklucker wrote: I dont really know about doctor. I like to think his insane tunnel is probably town. does anyone here know if hes the kind of player that would fake that? If not I would just never vote him out. Dandred are you mafia? I ignored you because of my fake check. If your town help me figure this shit out. Why is everyone ignoring jats reads? There really good and the same as mine. Jat died because he is mostly right. I am also mostly right Or you could have killed him so that you could say this line and push your lynch targets! I can wifom too! | ||
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On January 06 2015 21:50 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 21:46 ritoky wrote: On January 06 2015 21:35 sicklucker wrote: So i your town ritoky your wrong about someone so try to figure it out darling what is this supposed to say? "So in your town ritoky you're wrong about someone so try to figure it out darling"? is that what you were trying to ask? me robik and vivax are noy all mafia figure out who your wrong on. Nice fluff post it's not a fluff post, i am trying to decipher your language which clearly wasn't english. and you didn't read my post apparently. i think 2 of the 3 of you, damdred, and robik are mafia. with damdred being the most likely. if that was the case that would mean only you or robik would have to be with vivax which is plausible. look i solved it without modifying a single thing! | ||
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On January 06 2015 21:53 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 21:51 Lazermonkey wrote: So If SL isn't cop, why are we not lynching him? why would we mafia wouldn't claim most likely in that situation... because his play before his play was scummy, his scum reads have a basis in him admittedly lying to town and people pursuing those lies; then when he changed then rescinded the claim he didn't modify his reads; he still maintains the same reads even though they are based on him lying. but i have made a similar claim as VT so idk...it is certainly a sub-optimal play | ||
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On January 06 2015 22:00 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 21:59 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 06 2015 21:53 Damdred wrote: On January 06 2015 21:51 Lazermonkey wrote: So If SL isn't cop, why are we not lynching him? why would we mafia wouldn't claim most likely in that situation... SL was under heavy pressure when he claimed though. Trading 1-1 for a counter claim is really good in that situation. Can't post alot atm but yhea, SL is scum. he was under pressure from one person and had zero votes on him are you fucking serious? he obviously felt he was under enough pressure to fake claim cop plus he had 2 votes on him | ||
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On January 06 2015 22:06 Damdred wrote: And vivax had like 6 I think it was? That's not much pressure at all honestly I'll have to look at votes to see when claim and voted were but this is a huge wxageration if not out right misrepresentation on the events i voted sl like 2 hrs or so into the phase or at least after i showed up. super voted right around the claim. funny gif = joke post. | ||
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On January 07 2015 03:48 IAmRobik wrote: Ritoky, can you explain why you voted vivax over superbia? When I voted my reasons were: 1) koshi's case about sequencing still makes me believe vivax is mafia 2) a lot of pages behind 3) 3 of the 4 people voting on superbia were my mafia reads yesterday: marv, SL, damdred 4) geript stuff didn't seem amazingly compelling at a quick glance Now I would add another after reading the thread: 5) SL was pushing the lynch, and the basis of his super read is that SL lied to the thread about a check on LM; and SL scum reads super for pressuring him on that lie and not believing his claim even though it is a lie. He then changes his story multiple times and is clearly a fake cop, yet doesn't change the reason he is reading super scum. That read makes no sense at all and is some made up bull crap. | ||
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On January 07 2015 00:50 IAmRobik wrote: 2; GlowingBear - lean scum 4; Artanis[XP] - lean town 5; Lazermonkey - lean heavy town 6; Marvellosity - step it up sson 9; TheChyz - unsure 10; Palmar - unsure 11; Damdred - unsure 13; sicklucker - lean town but unsure 14; Vivax - lean heavy scum 15; KelsierSC - lean town 16; ritoky - lean town 17; DoctorHelvetica - had the towniest town of any town d1 and is basically confirmed town even with the d2 drop off 20; Superbia - lean scum I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc) IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = robik's town reads from the above post red = robik's scum reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. Doing cursory analysis of your reads here robik, this is like super compelling evidence for you that damdred is mafia. Like there's 2 worlds. World 1) You believe someone who RQ on day 1 when tunneled is mafia or palmar and marv are mafia together AND the day 1 lynch was 100% town or World 2) Damdred is mafia So why are you unsure on damdred? Do you think palmar and marv could be together? | ||
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On January 07 2015 06:20 sicklucker wrote: Because mafia would think im faking if my green checks on a mafia and would want to look good when I recind or it was town who saw it was really clear immediately, then exceptionally clear when you switched your check to damdred that you were lying. like you're assigning a motive to superbia for pressuring you as if you know 100% his motive or alignment. if you are town you shouldn't know that. you also never questioned to people who blindly followed you even though you were lying. isn't that concerning to you? that people just accepted your lies as facts? that would concern me if i was fake claiming cop. | ||
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On January 07 2015 06:30 IAmRobik wrote: Wait. GB hasn't voted either day and he's still in this game? WTF IS GOING ON MODS he voted day 1 on vivax. | ||
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On January 07 2015 06:28 marvellosity wrote: ritoky everything you post is so god-damn dry | ||
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On January 07 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote: why would you particularly question an uncounterclaimed cop? to assess the validity of his claim, then in a game with a framer and multiple millers, to being assessing the validity/coloring of his checks. why would you blindly accept a claim? | ||
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On January 07 2015 06:38 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 07 2015 06:34 ritoky wrote: On January 07 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote: why would you particularly question an uncounterclaimed cop? to assess the validity of his claim, then in a game with a framer and multiple millers, to being assessing the validity/coloring of his checks. why would you blindly accept a claim? there is no assessing, it's an open setup with 1 cop. mafia don't claim cop randomly for no reason when they are under 0 threat of being lynched. it's very simple.. why *wouldn't* you accept the claim at face value? well his claim was fake so maybe you *should* have been assessing it | ||
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On January 07 2015 08:59 marvellosity wrote: we should really just lynch ritoky. essentially what he did was vote sl and throw shit on him for the cop claim when he made virtually the exact same play, as town, in a previous game. does not compute funny how you said this earlier, i corrected you for it saying my read was based on his read progression making 0 sense, you acknowledged it, and yet you go back to that same read. imagine that. shallow reads all game. marv stayin in mafia pile for certain. | ||
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On January 07 2015 09:13 Damdred wrote: Listen I'll explain. SL wasn't really under that much pressure. We had lurker mafia candidates ritoky and superbia on him before the claim who no one was following. A one and one for mafia is horrible here, one because either the lynch was geript or vivax not Sl and soneone. The cop is in a somewhat weakend state due to framer and Miller's in the game. A one and one doesn't help mafia it gives town another mislynch to work with. ???????????? | ||
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On January 07 2015 09:21 Damdred wrote: Ritoky not reading thread confirmed. I think we are coming to the point where we won't agree. I think I have my read on Sl if the cop has a red on him I'll rethink. As nd I'll rethink Tommorow. no you're implying in that post that you know vivax's alignment. hence me spamming question marks with bolded vivax name. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote: le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro DrH n1 was green SL n2 was green i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:09 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote: let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow. On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote: On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote: le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro DrH n1 was green SL n2 was green i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints. Explain who you checked and why please checks are already there, as for why: drH: i had a tunnel on him for a bad reason early in the phase, started to town read him but still sour taste in my mouth. originally had check set for robik; he began dropping off during the night phase and he had a weird ass post (can go find it if you want) that made me change it back to my gut call. SL: i think it is obvious, guy sits around waffling on claiming my role and i think he has been scum all game. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote: Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it. I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc) IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = my town reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him. I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart. because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read. so my scum team right now is: 1) marv 2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL. 4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me 5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5. OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker. GG ##vote: ritoky sorry for not listening marv #teammarbic On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote: i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. On December 26 2014 17:18 Alakaslam wrote: SCUM Framer: 1. Regular framer. Can frame goons vig or any town. you dumb bro? | ||
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let me go pull up that past game again. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:17 KelsierSC wrote: ritoky if you admit that SL was a likely frame target then why did you check him? i wasn't here during basically an entire day/night cycle so i was pretty unawares of the happenings of the game. i thought he was mafia so i checked him. after the fact i realized he was a high priority frame target. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:20 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote: Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it. I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc) IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = my town reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him. I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart. because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read. so my scum team right now is: 1) marv 2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL. 4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me 5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5. OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker. GG ##vote: ritoky sorry for not listening marv #teammarbic Good shit. ##Unvote ##Vote ritoky On January 08 2015 06:16 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 21:19 ritoky wrote: Sorry for the vote spam, but deal with it. I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie, (kelsiersc) IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in reposting the votes with my town reads blue = my town reads Note: kelsier attempted to vote on superbia but failed to bold his post in the voting thread, hence why i added him in parenthesis. I have added Lazermonkey as another one of my town reads now because he was the one who gave the case on damdred that I really liked and inspired me to look further into damdred and make my case on him. I added marv as mafia because of him being on the second wagon both times coupled with my day 1 read of him having shallow reads and that flow chart that some1 posted that showed him as mafia. apparently it is a super accurate flow chart. because i added marv as mafia i added palmar as half town, the only reason i am half town on him is because he has a couple "why are we both alive"-type posts. if marv flips mafia palmar is likely town but those posts could be setting up a bus. if palmar lives multiple days after marv dies and flips mafia, reconsider the read. so my scum team right now is: 1) marv 2&3) i think that 2 of the 3 between damdred, robik, and SL are mafia. damdred would be my first lynch of the 3 as of right now because i have slightly lessened on my scum read of SL. 4) 1 of superbia and gb; could be both they are kinda the coin-flippy question marks for me 5) vivax - i actually have a higher scum read on vivax than this in terms of his individual play, it is just once i started making this list i realized that vivax would be getting mega-bussed if this were the team. so he is at 5. OK, I'm convinced he's scum. he colors DrH blue, along with some other non-confirmed people but never colors sicklucker. GG ##vote: ritoky sorry for not listening marv #teammarbic Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote: i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. Show nested quote + On December 26 2014 17:18 Alakaslam wrote: SCUM Framer: 1. Regular framer. Can frame goons vig or any town. you dumb bro? | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:23 KelsierSC wrote: wait ritoky you made your list post in the night phase so that is why you didn't have SL coloured in because you didn't have your check results back? correct? no it was during day phase. i didn't color him because my personal read GREATLY conflicts with my check | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:25 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote: let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow. On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote: On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote: le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro DrH n1 was green SL n2 was green i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints. why would you ever check me. Its so bad most people town read me. Also if you think im a framer target again. why do you check me? anyway im catching up but if no oe cc's I have no reason not to believe this. Terrible checks that dont help me solve the game so could totally be mafia you should try reading my responses to questions already asked before commenting. you're probably mafia, so i could give 2 shits about you. unfortunately with a green i can't lynch you today. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:27 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:23 ritoky wrote: i mean look at who i have listed as scum and who is trying to bury me and call my claim fake right now? you just said i was town who was reading you right and now i'm trying to bury you because I'm reading the game right. get wrecked sson so riddle me this robik: i am one of your top 2 lynches to start the phase, i soft cop everywhere, i drop to 5th for you, i claim, you instantly want to lynch. explain your progression and why i shouldn't check you tonight? | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:31 IAmRobik wrote: Oh jesus. OOOOOH jesus. I wish this was video mafia so I could articulate my thoughts with my mouth as opposed to typing them out. It's so difficult to explain certain intricacies of his claim that make no sense -- like who he colored in what color and why and why he didn't color certain people or how he half colors palmar but doesn't half color sicklucker 1 word: framer | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote: his voting history sucks. he late hops on lynches that don't fucking matter He has given no opinions all game. He doesn't talk about his green check DrH barely ever in his filter. He doesn't even color him green. He colors him blue...along with other "town reads" artanis and someone else. He doesn't differentiate them at all. He claimed today because he felt pressure. He can't explain why he checked the people he checked. The explanation on DrH check sucks and so does checking your counterclaim. He said he was suspicious of DrH so checked him and got green, so now he insta-believes that DrH is town, but since he got a green on SL, then he believes SL is scum? DAFUQ KINDA LOGIC IS THAT 1) wrong, my vote stayed put on day 1; day 2 sure 2) wrong again, read my filter; look at my vote analysis posts. i clearly have an opinion that i have expressed with the majority of my small filter of posts. 3) i literally just explained it. you need to get your head out of your ass, wake up and join us in the real game where i am cop. 4) of course i believe SL is scum, he has danced around my role and been scummy all game. at least DrH has town qualities. SL has none. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:41 sicklucker wrote: Ritoky if by some reason your this bad and really the cop heres why im town. Im not ccing your horrible claim because im waiting for the real cop to do it keep calling me bad and mafia, it's worked for you thus far. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:46 GlowingBear wrote: By the way, ritoky, Robik+Kelsier has got you. You slipped again. ##Vote:Ritoky what are you talking about? if kelsier wants to cc me, he can sure as shit try. he isn't the cop though and hasn't cc'd yet. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:52 IAmRobik wrote: Jesus christ. If I claim cop, will you lynch him? I'm literally about to fucking claim cop just to get that to happen because it's so painfully obvious to me so painfully obvious that i am the cop? oh look, all the people that you wanted to cc me have come and passed. i am the cop; you don't like my play? go fuck yourself and deal with it. we should start discussing the lynch target for the day. | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:56 Palmar wrote: Like these fucking soft defenses of damdred make me want to do this: i think 2 out of the 3 of SL, robik, and damdred are mafia; i have been repeatedly stating it all phase. this is based on the day 1 lynch and how many towns were on it. i cannot believe it was entirely town. as of right now (might be the omgus in me) i am inclined to believe it is robik and SL | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:59 IAmRobik wrote: Jesus christ. I'm the cop. COol? Can we lynch him now? lol @ this | ||
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On January 08 2015 06:58 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:58 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 06:56 Palmar wrote: Like these fucking soft defenses of damdred make me want to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZr3sTMQlU i think 2 out of the 3 of SL, robik, and damdred are mafia; i have been repeatedly stating it all phase. this is based on the day 1 lynch and how many towns were on it. i cannot believe it was entirely town. as of right now (might be the omgus in me) i am inclined to believe it is robik and SL actually -- you've been calling me town. have you been reading anything i have posted this phase? oh you have since you quoted it earlier. i thought 2 of 3 between you SL and damdred were mafia based purely on vote logic. i thought you were picking up my cop softs so i thought it was damdred and SL; your response to me coming out as cop has indicated otherwise. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:00 IAmRobik wrote: His claim was so bad, I can't believe I wasn't able to get him lynched without CCing you're not the cop. you have asked multiple ppl to cc me and been pre-threatening a cc that is clearly fake. just stop now. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:02 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:00 marvellosity wrote: On January 08 2015 06:59 IAmRobik wrote: Jesus christ. I'm the cop. COol? Can we lynch him now? oh. this is a hard claim? you're going to shout at me post-game aren't you? NO. I'M GOING TO SHOUT AT YOU RIGHT NOW. I LITERALLY GAVE YOU YOUR CLAIM. I TOLD YOU THAT RITOKY WAS RED AND I'M GREEN. I checked Eden n1 and I checked DrH last night. I didn't want to claim because it seemed DrH is gonna be modkilled. LeSigh just stop, your claim is so fake and trash. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote: Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop" 1) i am the cop 2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time. 3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter. 4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd. 5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you. 6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way. you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:10 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:09 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote: Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop" 1) i am the cop 2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time. 3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter. 4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd. 5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you. 6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way. you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it. lol but you're not calling him mafia because i don't believe he is hard ccing me, i think he is just being a dick; i still think he has a 2 in 3 chance of flipping mafia. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:11 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:09 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote: Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop" 1) i am the cop 2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time. 3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter. 4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd. 5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you. 6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way. you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it. No shit, cause I read his fucking terrible play and I didn't want to fucking counterclaim him cause he's easily just a dumpster townie making a trash play your cop claim right here is worse than SL's last phase. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:14 marvellosity wrote: both "cops" want to lynch vivax. cute. On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:10 marvellosity wrote: On January 08 2015 07:09 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote: Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop" 1) i am the cop 2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time. 3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter. 4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd. 5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you. 6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way. you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it. lol but you're not calling him mafia because i don't believe he is hard ccing me, i think he is just being a dick; i still think he has a 2 in 3 chance of flipping mafia. Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. Let's lynch vivax and then see what scum does | ||
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lol he is trying to pull one over on town. the more and more he goes on about it the more and more i think he is mafia. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote: Superbia is not here though. He hasn't posted in like forever. I don't like killing someone like that. If he keeps this up, he will probably get modkilled and what not. Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro? Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point. 100% chance i am not mafia. i am an uncc'd cop. get your claim shit out of the thread, you already rescinded because i posted 6 very clear reasons and you folded. you in the qt coaching someone else to cc me? mad at teammates cuz they forced you to fake a cc? tough life. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:29 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote: On January 08 2015 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote: Superbia is not here though. He hasn't posted in like forever. I don't like killing someone like that. If he keeps this up, he will probably get modkilled and what not. Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro? Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point. 100% chance i am not mafia. i am an uncc'd cop. get your claim shit out of the thread, you already rescinded because i posted 6 very clear reasons and you folded. you in the qt coaching someone else to cc me? mad at teammates cuz they forced you to fake a cc? tough life. i literally could say 0 words for the rest of the day and you'd still be lynched lolololol and then if by some miracle you were VT i would get to endlessly swag on you after the game for being so dumb. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:30 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote: On January 08 2015 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote: Superbia is not here though. He hasn't posted in like forever. I don't like killing someone like that. If he keeps this up, he will probably get modkilled and what not. Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro? Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point. 100% chance i am not mafia. i am an uncc'd cop. get your claim shit out of the thread, you already rescinded because i posted 6 very clear reasons and you folded. you in the qt coaching someone else to cc me? mad at teammates cuz they forced you to fake a cc? tough life. if you are the cop why does Robik CC you there. your two checks one is dead and the other one you cast aspersions on , think they are mafia that has been framed. why don't they just kill you and lynch anyone else he rescinded his claim already holy shit how many times i gotta say it: On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. JESUS HE IS NOT COP | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:32 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:30 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:29 IAmRobik wrote: On January 08 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote: On January 08 2015 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote: Superbia is not here though. He hasn't posted in like forever. I don't like killing someone like that. If he keeps this up, he will probably get modkilled and what not. Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro? Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point. 100% chance i am not mafia. i am an uncc'd cop. get your claim shit out of the thread, you already rescinded because i posted 6 very clear reasons and you folded. you in the qt coaching someone else to cc me? mad at teammates cuz they forced you to fake a cc? tough life. i literally could say 0 words for the rest of the day and you'd still be lynched lolololol and then if by some miracle you were VT i would get to endlessly swag on you after the game for being so dumb. Yeah, but only one of us is notorious for making shitty VT claims. SIT DOWN SSON btw, I think it's totally worth it to trade your life for mine at this point (from your point of view). I really didn't want to have to claim in this spot. he is still going, fuck this ##unvote ##vote: robik guy will not get the fuck off a claim he already rescinded. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:36 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:35 Vivax wrote: On January 08 2015 07:33 IAmRobik wrote: Vivax, why was your list of lynches SO FUCKING BAD You, SL and marv I suppose you allude to? Or the list I posted to SL in an attempt to give him some bullshit list. yes, me, SL marv is the list i am alluding to. It's really really really fucking bad really? because you're really fucking mafia. oh look you claiming to rescind again. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:44 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:41 KelsierSC wrote: On January 08 2015 07:39 Damdred wrote: Before I get into rits claim which i don't believe, I think Robik really threw it out the window with the vote analysis stuff. Palmar did you read all of my filter or just the d1 stuff? is throwing out the window good or bad? I think its pretty obvious that Ritoky isn't the cop and i'm on page 286 currently and i think logically the claim has been destroyed. get ready to be wrong. also vivax might be town....i might have been wrong on him, fuck. | ||
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robik is adamant about lynching an un-cc'd cop. he is mafia at this point. gave him a chance to drop it and he didn't. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:50 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:43 Vivax wrote: Robik, who is marvs scumpartner he wouldn't push if he were scum. RITOKY...HOLY SHIT HOW FUCKING DENSE ARE YOU? except for the part where i am cop. robik had 0 reaction to someone claiming cop earlier now he freaks out, rescinded his current cc twice, but still keeps going and isn't trying to solve the game at all. just vote robik | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:53 IAmRobik wrote: ritoky, i'd like to have a heart to heart with you.... + Show Spoiler + who chose the night kills? robik, i'd like to have a heart to heart with you... + Show Spoiler + you did | ||
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On January 08 2015 08:15 IAmRobik wrote: Ritoky fake claimed under pressure. I counter-claimed, but am considering rescinding and letting him live one extra day in order to lynch someone else who I think is mafia with him. yup, lynch this guy. he isn't cop. which means he is either VT throwing the game and hard mafia siding; or he is mafia. let me make it simple. he is mafia. | ||
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On January 08 2015 08:25 IAmRobik wrote: That reminds me...he might have spewed damdred town, but I'm not 100% sure i spewwed the opposite; jesus you have literally read nothing i have posted all game. this guy is so mafia it hurts. | ||
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but the #1 reason why you all should know robik isn't cop is because roles (at least mine does) have specific names in this game and if he legit was trying to CC me he would have outed the name. he flat out isn't cop, so please get the hell over yourself you scum pos. | ||
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On January 08 2015 08:31 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 08:27 IAmRobik wrote: btw, like. sicklucker is CONFIRMED town at this point. never lynch him. Also never lynch DrH cause of the green check. Probably never lynch marv either cause he shouldn't want to kill his partner a day from mylo especialyl when his partner has spewed 3 people clear still reading though So you are cop then? copslip? I think I'll leave my vote on ritoky then. If neither you or ritoky are scum then you fucking suck. Like really really much. Good night... On January 08 2015 07:30 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm not lynching ritoky if there is no hard claim against him. Not one chance. LOL??????? He has rescinded.... | ||
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On January 08 2015 09:38 IAmRobik wrote: I hate that Ritoky gave up. That means that I never survive gave up? gave up what, you're not cop. you rescinded and i cooked dinner. if you're actually bringing that shitty claim up again let me re-iterate why it is false | ||
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On January 08 2015 09:50 sicklucker wrote: Like vivax, gb, palmer, ritoky all pretty much against killing super. There not afraid to bus him but there keeping there options open to get a mislynch. The writing is on the wall not against lynching super in the slightest, would rather he just get modkilled instead of wasting a lynch. should spend the lynch on robik who is lying out of his ass. | ||
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On January 08 2015 07:09 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote: Oh yeah? Why is my claim trash. Please point to any discrepancies in my claim. Go ahead big boy. Here's your time to shine as 'the real cop" 1) i am the cop 2) you claim to be cop, but you had 0 reaction to someone HARD CLAIMING YOUR ROLE last day phase while being here and actively posting the entire time. 3) you have given no indications of being cop in your entire filter. 4) you sat here calling for others to cc and saying you would make up a cc if no one cc'd. 5) you checked a dead person n1 who was universally town read i believe even by you. 6) lol @ your checks. you call my checks bad and not solving the game, yours are on another level. they also don't mesh with your reads in the slightest. you would have checked into the likes of geript/marv/palmar/jat and such because you were heavily invested in solving those discussions and a check would have gone a long way. you need to move the fuck on; you're not the cop now drop it. On January 08 2015 07:32 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:30 KelsierSC wrote: On January 08 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 07:25 IAmRobik wrote: On January 08 2015 07:24 Lazermonkey wrote: Superbia is not here though. He hasn't posted in like forever. I don't like killing someone like that. If he keeps this up, he will probably get modkilled and what not. Was I wrong on you? are you fucking mafia bro? Literally 0% chance superbia and ritoky aren't mafia at this point. 100% chance i am not mafia. i am an uncc'd cop. get your claim shit out of the thread, you already rescinded because i posted 6 very clear reasons and you folded. you in the qt coaching someone else to cc me? mad at teammates cuz they forced you to fake a cc? tough life. if you are the cop why does Robik CC you there. your two checks one is dead and the other one you cast aspersions on , think they are mafia that has been framed. why don't they just kill you and lynch anyone else he rescinded his claim already holy shit how many times i gotta say it: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 07:12 IAmRobik wrote: Actually -- this is brilliant. I rescind my claim. JESUS HE IS NOT COP On January 08 2015 08:29 ritoky wrote: i know robik is not cop because i am. but the #1 reason why you all should know robik isn't cop is because roles (at least mine does) have specific names in this game and if he legit was trying to CC me he would have outed the name. he flat out isn't cop, so please get the hell over yourself you scum pos. easy open and shut case on robik's claim. he is mafia. | ||
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On January 08 2015 09:53 KelsierSC wrote: ah cool rit you are back so why did you check eden when you town read him d1? didn't check eden, checked drH the fuck you talking about? | ||
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On January 08 2015 09:59 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote: let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow. On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote: On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote: le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro DrH n1 was green SL n2 was green i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints. That's the funniest part of the entire claim. because i thought you dropping me on your lynch list meant you read my endless softing. instead you decided to be ridiculous and pull off this fake cc shit. if you're vt you will not hear the end of me in post game. | ||
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On January 08 2015 10:03 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 10:01 ritoky wrote: On January 08 2015 09:59 IAmRobik wrote: On January 08 2015 06:06 ritoky wrote: let's all spam votes on the guy doing endless vote logic, coloring names left and right, and clearly softing his role every chance he gets. such donkey much wow. On January 08 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote: On January 08 2015 05:58 ritoky wrote: le sigh. you guys should really move your votes off me. ok out your checks then bro DrH n1 was green SL n2 was green i softened a bit on SL because of it, but i think he was a prime frame target last night so i am still kinda convinced he is red. fuck you all for making me claim and the only person who shouldn't be mad at himself is robik because i think he is the only person who actually got the endless hints. That's the funniest part of the entire claim. because i thought you dropping me on your lynch list meant you read my endless softing. instead you decided to be ridiculous and pull off this fake cc shit. if you're vt you will not hear the end of me in post game. When I flip VT, the mafia QT is gonna be soooooooooooo mad at you for having such a shitty claim that a VT was able to fake claim on your ass and get you lynched you're soooo fucking mafia. | ||
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On January 08 2015 10:20 KelsierSC wrote: rit I know this is a while back but in d1 I think you have lazer in your mafia pile and dam is in your town pile. then lazer gives his read on dam and then you have lazer town and dam mafia. can you explain why lazer convinced you so much, did you push on dam d2? i posted a case on damdred fairly recently, i was not here almost the entire d2 phase because irl. koshi told me to read damdred's filter. i read damdred's filter, and had a lot of the same thoughts on it as LM; thus i had LM as town and damdred as mafia. | ||
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On January 08 2015 10:23 KelsierSC wrote: Also rit when you did your coloured posts I don't think you colour dam how come. because as i said in the bottom: i think 2 of 3 of robik, SL, and damdred are mafia. at that point i wasn't sure which 2 of the 3 | ||
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On January 08 2015 10:22 IAmRobik wrote: Because I'm the greatest mafia player on this fucking planet. Maybe if you were on my level, you would have thought about your fake checks before you gave them. Specifically that SL check. That was terrible. No cop would EVER check SL there. Like, there's literally no reason to check SL there because if he keeps his claim, you counter as cop and get him lynched because his claim already sucks. If he's town, mafia might actually believe him and kill him, so you'd have a wasted check. So like, next time you decide to fake cop, you should plan stuff like this out. if my cop claim was fake, your claim would still be worse. it is worse than SL's claim and THATS SAYING SOMETHING | ||
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On January 08 2015 10:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: This is where I'm at. Show nested quote + On January 08 2015 06:52 IAmRobik wrote: Jesus christ. If I claim cop, will you lynch him? I'm literally about to fucking claim cop just to get that to happen because it's so painfully obvious to me Should I get my out? he claims cop, rescinds it 3 times, claims it again, rescinds again, then claims again. translation = he is not cop and most likely mafia. | ||
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On January 09 2015 03:06 IAmRobik wrote: for the record, if ritoky and I are both alive tomorrow -- we are NOT lynching between the two of us translation: i want to go to final 3/lylo with him because even though he is the real cop i feel i can win against him On January 09 2015 04:09 sicklucker wrote: so like if mafia doesint kill are cop. Do not kill into them untill lylo. Let them get us much checks as they can we have two mislynches so I would rather kill into them later and have more checks. Is that not by far the smartest thing to do? either you're the biggest sheep in the universe or these guys are in a qt together. they have been posting the same shit for a lot of the game. | ||
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On January 09 2015 05:45 IAmRobik wrote: You're right. I'm just VT. Soooorrryyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!! + Show Spoiler + Yawn, this is the 5th or 6th time he has rescinded, regardless of if this one is a joke or not. A lot of the previous ones were not. When someone claims your role, you don't have 0 reaction as robik has with SL claiming cop. And when you decide to CC the person claiming your role you don't waver. Robik sat around asking for 4 people to CC who he read as cop, stated he would make up a claim if they didn't. They didn't he made up a claim. Even moreso when you CC someone claiming your role is you come out with conviction. He has absolutely none. I think he realizes that his entire game from a scum perspective is pretty fucked if I am confirmed town because I am one of the scum team's primary mislynch targets. There's a 0% chance robik is cop. There's a 1% chance robik is VT and a terrible player. There's a 99% chance he is mafia. | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:04 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 09 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote: i am going to vote robik until he is out of the game. once he is out of the game i will vote a red check if i have it, if not i will examine those who have given 0 consideration to the world where i am cop. because that's the world we're living in. why would you vote a red check "if you have it"? I was gonna do that math when I got home, but I'm pretty sure at this point, with your 2 checks, you're way more likely to hit a miller....sorry, I am way more likely to hit a miller JAT was a miller, you not paying attention to the game? guy clearly not cop, doesn't even pay attention to the # of millers alive | ||
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I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): Superbia TheChyz (2): Vivax, TheChyz geript (6): Palmar, Lazermonkey, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, batsnacks sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. I Count this vote sons Vivax (3): IAmRobik, geript, ritoky Superbia (4): Damdred, sicklucker, marvellosity, justanothertownie IAmRobik (1): Superbia geript (6): Vivax, DoctorHelvetica, Lazermonkey, palmar, VisceraEyes, Artanis[XP] Geript is lynched. Deadline is in I Count this vote sons ritoky (5): glowingbear, Marvellosity, GlowingBear, IAmRobik, Palmar Superbia (6): KelsierSC, Artanis[Xp], Chezinu, sicklucker, Damdred, Lazermonkey IAmRobik (2): ritoky, Superbia Superbia is lynched. In this world, where SL is actually green; I think there still has to be 2 mafia on the day 1 lynch. Everyone's alignment is known on that lynch except artanis and damdred. I think artanis is one of the most town people in the game, so damdred is mafia there. I think GB's vote is very odd and I don't really recall anyone bringing up that he threw his vote away day 1. Yet a lot of people yell at me for "throwing my vote away". The next mafia is probably between GB and LM. LM's voting record is good. He thinks geript is mafia, votes him both days, then lynches confirmed mafia. Plus LM wanted to go hard on damdred, thus even more town. so scum team is: 1) robik 2) superbia 3) damdred 4) GB 5) not sure, gonna put marv here so i can swag on him with my day 1 read. | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:09 IAmRobik wrote: WAIT, WTF, JAT WAS A MILLER? even more proof that you aren't cop right here. beyond a shadow of a doubt. | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:17 KelsierSC wrote: I find a Dam + superbia scum team highly unlikely Dam pushes him early, does research on him d1, pushes for the lynch and votes him D2 and D3. i find SL being town unlikely, but that world might be true as well. | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:19 IAmRobik wrote: Ritoky, so is Kelsier just a misguided townie? Is artanis misguided townie? You don't give a fuck that these people backed me? They don't even cross your mind as scum? kelsier is town because he was the only person inquiring into the claims. he sat there spamming questions amongst all the shit trying to get information. he arrived at the wrong conclusion; but his process was town. i mean i could be wrong on damdred and it is artanis who is the 2nd scum on that wagon or artanis could have pulled the wool over my eyes all game and artanis is the 5th scum who i tentatively have as marv. i don't see it based on his previous play. is his last phase garbage for believing a fake cop who rescinds nonstop? yup. do town make stupid decisions? yup. | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:20 marvellosity wrote: ritoky, how come I've slipped down your rankings? I am disappoint because superbia flipped scum | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:22 IAmRobik wrote: Viv doesn't even give a fuck about the fact that i've literally gone through both of superbia's and ritoky's filter to pull quotes that relate to the game and why I TR so-and-so and why I scum read so-and-so. Ritoky has done NO FUCKING ANALYSIS. You're telling me he rolled cop. He sat back and didn't play the game to get checks. He gets pressured and comes out as cop and then when he KNOWS 100% THAT I HAVE TO BE SCUM, he doesn't even both to fucking go to my filter and read it and try to see who he can TR or scumread from that? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. You're a joke yawn, 1 of analysis posts in the past phase is more productive than your entire filter. just stahp. | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:27 marvellosity wrote: I mean, for the uneducated, it's very easy (apart from some of the various compelling points made, like the retardedness of checking a rival cop claim) you open Robik's filter and ask yourself "is this guy trying to figure out the game in some way?" then you do the same with ritoky's filter ??? profit and you conclude that ritoky is, and robik is shitting up the thread with capslock | ||
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On January 09 2015 07:28 marvellosity wrote: only if you're a deaf, blind, meerkat who wasn't thinking straight explain this to me, why would someone have 0 reaction to a player claiming their role? then explain this to me, when you are CCing someone claiming your role, why would you rescind 5 times? | ||
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counting people for and against him. rit solving the game: examining votes determining alignments. people believe robik. lol. | ||
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On January 09 2015 17:29 KelsierSC wrote: I find it amusing that ritoky posted swag pictures even though no one believed he was the cop and robik took a big steaming shit on his face. i posted swag pictures because yolo. honestly i played so shitty this game, i should have been the lynch d1, then again d2, then again d3. the fact that i wasn't and traded myself for a cop. lol upgrades this game from steaming pile of fiery doo doo level; to meh level. also, it is always fun to taunt robik. | ||
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On January 09 2015 18:17 sicklucker wrote: Did you really forget are first game together or was that some sum ? =[ i didn't forget it, i just remembered it differently. i remembered it moreso for you guys not listening to damdred spamming i was medic in the qt and then me claiming and whiping the floor with you from there. | ||
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they look at you with the eye of the chupazi and do what they please. | ||
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On January 09 2015 18:25 sicklucker wrote: http://captiongenerator.com/26580/UChez-Chilter this shit still makes me laugh. the funniest part is he goes through all of this effort and still tries to pin it on fecalfeast instead of you. | ||
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On January 09 2015 18:40 sicklucker wrote: We probably have another safety lynch after that too I cant remember. I better wake up to conceding mafia ritoky bro, don't you know i am town? this is all an elaborate throw | ||
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just sayin. | ||
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consider this your final warning | ||
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step 2) have bad people create distance/trade for roles step 3) profit sorry to artanis and damdred for playing so poorly, glad i could do a couple useful things for you in the end. | ||
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