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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 00:38 GMT
#2535
On January 03 2015 09:37 Eden1892 wrote:
Kelsier, this is the second error of fact you've made about my case, both of them pretty significant. I didn't say everything batsnacks had done was suspicious. I pointed out a few things that were.

You said you would read my case and give me critiques of it. When is this going to happen?

im doing it now wtf
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 00:52 GMT
#2544
On January 03 2015 09:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 09:36 KelsierSC wrote:
eden you case was roughly

1) bats read on robik was weird

2) his misrepresenting chyz

3) his last pages not having anything substantiaal

I guess that's a decent breakdown, but I still find it misrepresenting to say that I broke it down into those three subsections, when it clearly (to me) reads more as a freeflowing assessment of batsnacks. Doubly so when you start couching it in terms of "isn't it weird how he had these 3 points he was instantly ready to make on batsnacks," as you've essentially been looking to do.

(1) is not quite correct. The read was off, as I explained; what made it suspicious to me is that there wasn't any followup to it, nor did it seem any other suspect had commanded his attention to distract him from following up. It just kinda gets dropped without any explanation. I admit I wasn't as clear on this as I should have been, though.

(2) is also not quite correct, and I feel like it's more clearly not quite correct than your reading of (1). Again, it's this attempt to read/contribute something about Chyz that doesn't make much sense that's weird, and the lack of meaningful direction or followup to it that's suspicious. I did call it a "horrible misinterpretation" but that's not why I found it suspicious.

(3) is pretty much correct, and is indeed suspicious given (1) and (2) constitute his main focuses in the thread.

And while it's not in the case itself, I feel it would be remiss to overlook the point I hammered home the most in my arguing for batsnacks to be lynched, which was that batsnacks was defaulting to a policy lynch on Chyz and pointedly refusing to tell me whether or not he actually thought Chyz was mafia.


And yeah, I know you're reading it, my point is that you've made multiple significant errors of fact and that you're not reading the case fairly. You entered your read of it wanting to find a way to make it fit into your preconceived notion that I came out of nowhere with 3 points I'd been sitting on in order to bury a townie, instead of reading it with a genuine interest in determining my alignment and the alignment of the people that followed my vote onto batsnacks.


that is how the case looked broken down to me eden, just how it felt in my mind.

I think you defended your case pretty well and you are right it wasnt just before deadline. you feel town
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 01:12 GMT
#2547
On January 03 2015 10:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Kinda bugs me how Eden first scumreads Doc, then scumreads Chyz, then goes on with saying "One or the other is mafia" when they have been in such a clińch. Excluding a bussing here cause of that ragequit from Chyz. But I feel like Eden has been way less vocal about DrH than say TheCyyz.

vivax, stop shitposting or you will get lynched per koshi's request


lol

whats the story about that pot and the black kettle, shit i forgot
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 01:23 GMT
#2554
On January 03 2015 10:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 09:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 09:47 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 03 2015 09:36 KelsierSC wrote:
eden you case was roughly

1) bats read on robik was weird

2) his misrepresenting chyz

3) his last pages not having anything substantiaal

I guess that's a decent breakdown, but I still find it misrepresenting to say that I broke it down into those three subsections, when it clearly (to me) reads more as a freeflowing assessment of batsnacks. Doubly so when you start couching it in terms of "isn't it weird how he had these 3 points he was instantly ready to make on batsnacks," as you've essentially been looking to do.

(1) is not quite correct. The read was off, as I explained; what made it suspicious to me is that there wasn't any followup to it, nor did it seem any other suspect had commanded his attention to distract him from following up. It just kinda gets dropped without any explanation. I admit I wasn't as clear on this as I should have been, though.

(2) is also not quite correct, and I feel like it's more clearly not quite correct than your reading of (1). Again, it's this attempt to read/contribute something about Chyz that doesn't make much sense that's weird, and the lack of meaningful direction or followup to it that's suspicious. I did call it a "horrible misinterpretation" but that's not why I found it suspicious.

(3) is pretty much correct, and is indeed suspicious given (1) and (2) constitute his main focuses in the thread.

And while it's not in the case itself, I feel it would be remiss to overlook the point I hammered home the most in my arguing for batsnacks to be lynched, which was that batsnacks was defaulting to a policy lynch on Chyz and pointedly refusing to tell me whether or not he actually thought Chyz was mafia.


And yeah, I know you're reading it, my point is that you've made multiple significant errors of fact and that you're not reading the case fairly. You entered your read of it wanting to find a way to make it fit into your preconceived notion that I came out of nowhere with 3 points I'd been sitting on in order to bury a townie, instead of reading it with a genuine interest in determining my alignment and the alignment of the people that followed my vote onto batsnacks.


that is how the case looked broken down to me eden, just how it felt in my mind.

I think you defended your case pretty well and you are right it wasnt just before deadline. you feel town

Enh... that felt a little quick. You seemed awful sure earlier.

I'll sort it out later I guess.


it's called applying pressure
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 01:56 GMT
#2566
On January 03 2015 10:55 IAmRobik wrote:
It's pretty disgusting that the voters of geript look scummier as a whole than the voters of bats. Also that the people not voting either wagon look worse than those on either of the other two.


right,,,,
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 02:06 GMT
#2569
On January 03 2015 10:58 IAmRobik wrote:
You disagree? Cool. Please tell me besides myself who you scumread of the voters on bats


I don't scumread you

I think SL and dam are scum.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 02:40 GMT
#2589
On January 03 2015 11:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Artanis, I'll point it out tomorrow and make a case on why he's scum. I am on my phone and quoting is no fun and neither is filter diving. It's possible I'm wrong on him and everything else. Whatevs


lol

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 02:47 GMT
#2598
On January 03 2015 11:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, regarding keiser, he seems to be contradicting himself a lot. He's making posts asking why I'm town and he makes a post saying that I'm playing like shit but that he TRs me. Like wtf?


when did I ask why you are town.

you are playing like shit,

i don't town read you I dont scum read you

apparently you start palying good at some point and I am waiting for that.

If you really think I am top scum this game I just dont get you
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 02:55 GMT
#2602
On January 03 2015 11:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 11:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 03 2015 11:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, regarding keiser, he seems to be contradicting himself a lot. He's making posts asking why I'm town and he makes a post saying that I'm playing like shit but that he TRs me. Like wtf?


when did I ask why you are town.

you are playing like shit,

i don't town read you I dont scum read you

apparently you start palying good at some point and I am waiting for that.

If you really think I am top scum this game I just dont get you

You asked twice I believe. Once was to SL if I remember correctly


I was asking him to explain his town read on you , it wasnt in an attempt to read you at all
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 03:04 GMT
#2608
On January 03 2015 11:57 IAmRobik wrote:
You keep shitting on me but not calling me scum. It's just bad. Take a stance mofo


I haven't seen you make a post of real substance. you weren't here NYE and then you have mostly been accusing people of bad posts or getting defensive about people thinking you are scummy.

Like I said some other people in the thread said you are a good player so I am waiting till you start making a post of substance. You scum read me but I need to see the case before I can really make a read on you.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 03:31 GMT
#2615
On January 03 2015 12:19 IAmRobik wrote:
I don't like Lazer's post either. specifically 'well fuck, i still think"

Also, Kel still hasn't answered why i should TR him


you have a scum case on me I want to hear it
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:03 GMT
#2620
Dam you here?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:21 GMT
#2621
This seems important

On January 02 2015 00:46 Damdred wrote:
You haven't got to me doing some stuffs yet palmar tell me what you think of my case later besides its boring if it is. Besides that I think you are town for the knowledge bomb.

Kel you might have to convince me more that bats is scum, I can remember his posts so I don't think I would want to lynch him today.


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:21 GMT
#2622
On January 02 2015 12:47 Damdred wrote:
I really can't remember what Bats has tried to do this game overall, just that he asked about reads at one point besides that i forget hes in the game.

I can see a scum bats doing this


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:28 GMT
#2625
yeh

geript,SL and Dam

those should be the lynch targets tomorrow

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:33 GMT
#2629
Dam sorry if you answered

but would you say you had a strong scum read of geript day 1?

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:35 GMT
#2632
On January 03 2015 13:34 justanothertownie wrote:
And definitely keep a close eye on these people day2:

marv, VE, Robik and geript

Their play so far is really underwhelming if they are town.


well geript should be lynched

VE i think it is hard to be whelmed (europeean word) by his play considering he was a replacement.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:42 GMT
#2637
alright. what did you think of the other people who voted on bats? did they feel town to you?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:46 GMT
#2641
Sorry SL I was talking to Dam

another question Dam.

A few people brought up some cases on geript did those not really sway you? I think palmar had a pretty good case.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 04:47 GMT
#2643
On January 03 2015 13:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 13:44 sicklucker wrote:
Me? Ya for the most part. Eden and doct are def town. Artanis most likely town. Dandred can still be town.

I thought all those reads were gone now and marv and some other guy I forgot were your only townreads?


he only likes marv and robik but he is now not sure because they are both fighting
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