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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 16:37 GMT
#9500
On January 17 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:21 Vivax wrote:
Ok, so need to roll out the LM/Marv/Kelsier theory up again as I currently don't think GB is mafia. Back to rereading.

tell me why please


The way he cried for joy when we were lynching Palmar and SL was waffling so hard on switching to him, while GB was believing Palmar to flip red.

THen some other point where he went nuts out of joy when Kelsier was uncovered as scum. Can't remember exactly this part and cba to go read it now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 16:39 GMT
#9502
I believe DP was killed cause he was onto marv.

And Chezinu cause pushing him as mislynch was close to impossible.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 16:45 GMT
#9508
On January 17 2015 01:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:37 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:28 marvellosity wrote:
On January 17 2015 01:21 Vivax wrote:
Ok, so need to roll out the LM/Marv/Kelsier theory up again as I currently don't think GB is mafia. Back to rereading.

tell me why please


The way he cried for joy when we were lynching Palmar and SL was waffling so hard on switching to him, while GB was believing Palmar to flip red.

THen some other point where he went nuts out of joy when Kelsier was uncovered as scum. Can't remember exactly this part and cba to go read it now.

so overreactions based on reads pushing a mafia agenda?

beautiful


No, overreactions when he believed that a scum was trying to not switch to another scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 16:49 GMT
#9517
Marv if you want me to unvote you, will have to vote Kelsier.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 16:53 GMT
#9522
On January 17 2015 01:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Marv if you want me to unvote you, will have to vote Kelsier.

you're asking me to choose a 10% over a 0% when I could have a 90%

why would i do that?


It's obvious you glossed over all the arguments for why Kels is scum. Simply cause you are buddies.
I can't exclude that LM is scum, but I can speculate that you and Kelsier bussed him yesterday to kill him and get the cred required to win the game.

Which is why I will vote Kelsier or you, but not LM as that gives Kelsier and you more room to talk yourself out of getting lynched cause you will argue that you called for his lynch so badly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:02 GMT
#9535
On January 17 2015 01:59 marvellosity wrote:
we should lynch LM, who is mafia, and then all the other pieces start slotting into place.


You'd like that. Cause there's still the small chance he's just a bad townie and SL the third between you and Kelsier, gonna have to look at the cop claim D2 between SL and Kel to figure if it was all scum-scum interaction to lure out the real cop.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:05 GMT
#9541
Marv tell me what you think of this:
On January 16 2015 03:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 03:15 Vivax wrote:
I'm aiming for best town award

I think I'll nominate you for best traitor play this game tbh

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:06 GMT
#9543
Yea but it's kinda odd thing to say while we are both on the same tracks.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:08 GMT
#9547
OK!

I support a no-lynch today.
Cause then I'm dead after the night and I will eat popcorn and watch Artanis and marv fight, cause one of them is scum for certain. And I cheer for the townie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:09 GMT
#9550
On January 17 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I was commenting on the fact that you seem to have been playing towards mafia objectives the entire game with your crazy theories that ended up in a lot of confirmed townies scumreading you and ended up with you getting almost lynched twice this game.


Yes my play has been terrible this game.
But in lategame I tend to shine...somewhat
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:09 GMT
#9551
I don't care if they don't shoot, just means we have more time.
I want more time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:12 GMT
#9554
Need GB to get in here and put his useless vote on marv in the meantime.

SL is giving me the heebiejeebis for siding with marv so quickly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:13 GMT
#9555
Honestly I can't believe marv isn't scumreading Kelsier after I pointed out how he behaved with ritoky and Artanis D1.

They must be scum together.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:16 GMT
#9559
On January 17 2015 02:14 sicklucker wrote:
I dont want to give scum the option to shoot. They will no shoot if it favors them. Or shoot if it does. Its the wrong decision andkind of scummy to suggest it.


Scummy to suggest to no-lynch cause I want to get killed by scum?

That laves marv, SL, Artanis, GB, Kelsier, Lazermonkey, Damdred to fight the fight, and the next flip will give us even more information to work with.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:21 GMT
#9563
Marv, read this stuff and every post close around it and tell me why KElsier isn't scum

On January 17 2015 00:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It seems like you've just gotten a crazy idea in your head and you're looking for ways to prove it rather than actually looking at it objectively. You want to be right so badly you see clues in everything when they can just as easily if not more so explained from a town perspective.


What was Kelsier's point of asking you for a read on DrH and ritoky when you already gave it before?

What was the point of him being suspicious of you when you were already voting the same target?



On January 17 2015 00:33 Vivax wrote:
And Kelsier asked you for a read on ritoky while calling DrH supertown but not giving any statement on ritoky.


On January 17 2015 00:35 Vivax wrote:
It seems like he he saw his scumbuddy getting attacked, called DrH supertown, refrained from commenting on ritoky, and when you came into the thread, he asked you about both while skipping that you already had given a read on both.

On January 17 2015 00:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 00:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
First post by Kelsier:
On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 31 2014 16:10 sicklucker wrote:
Its weird because its either

a. scummy because of why I just said
b. A way to find a town for people who have played with him alot and know he does this.

Can we kill ritoky so far hes attacked doctor and missed the sarcasm and now this.


sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor?

you have a huge town read on doctor at that point?

Guess SL's scum since he hadn't given a statement on those two yet.

On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game?

I guess Lazer is scum because he hadn't given reads on most of the "other players in the game" yet.

Wait, that means we have 4 scum left because I'm scum with Kelsier, SL and Lazermonkey. Guess Slam must've messed up in the role PM's.


Are you kidding me? SL was calling ritoky scum at that point and Kels focuses on the DrH townread. While Kelsier doesn't ask Lazer about ritoky in specific.




On January 17 2015 00:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Artanis can you give a read on some other players who have spoken.

Ritoky and DrH specifically.

I dunno what to think about Dr. Helvetica, probably leaning town because people with a critical mass of words tend to be town, and I agree with him on Chyz being suspect though that might be my own bias as documented before.
I've already given my read on Ritoky. All I remember from him is a ridiculous USA USA USA campaign in Cell. He seems like a spazzy player. Need more info to discern between him going after someone for the sake of it or if there's method to the madness.


ok I like that read you gave on DrH that feels towny.





Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game?


Like, D1. When Artanis replied to KSc about DrH and ritoky. Kelsier townreads Artanis for that read and still doesn't comment on ritoky, a flipped scum, in any way.

This is oozing scum agenda.

Marv could be town and just a dick who wants to see us lose.
But if he's town I really need his help now.
If he's mafia he's just falling over and dying, and Kelsier would probably be the next lynch, but then they have Artanis left. And if I'm wrong on Artanis, there's still to figure out if LM is mafia.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:22 GMT
#9565
On January 17 2015 02:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 02:16 Vivax wrote:
On January 17 2015 02:14 sicklucker wrote:
I dont want to give scum the option to shoot. They will no shoot if it favors them. Or shoot if it does. Its the wrong decision andkind of scummy to suggest it.


Scummy to suggest to no-lynch cause I want to get killed by scum?

That laves marv, SL, Artanis, GB, Kelsier, Lazermonkey, Damdred to fight the fight, and the next flip will give us even more information to work with.


Scum only kills if it favors them. For example your always siding with artanis here. So if artanis is mafia he wont shoot you. He would shoot me.

Never give mafia options there more likely to play it correctly then wrong. Like in any game


And if Artanis is town? Who would they shoot?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:23 GMT
#9567
On January 17 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote:
if you promise to read GB's meta case on KSC, and then read Carol of the bells, then yes. Will you do that?


No, I ignored each and everyone of GB's meta cases this game cause mafia is an extremely situational game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:24 GMT
#9571
On January 17 2015 02:22 sicklucker wrote:
Lets be real The two teams are like. Artanis,lm,gb / marv, ksc , dandred

Like the three on the right have been town all game. Only artanis has been town on the left


Good post, but there's still the theory in my mind that mafia bussed LM to gain cred. So need to reread the last day and see if the patterns fit with what you say.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:29 GMT
#9574
On January 17 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
by my own metric, marv/LM/Kelsier is the mafia-team, and that's kinda unfortunate.


On January 17 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
no, not got time for cases.

I really wanted just to say fuck all you fucking jubjubs for lynching me at lylo, but annoyingly I decided I couldn't just throw the game.


Marv this reads like you claiming scum and now putting in all effort you can to not lose this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21959 Posts
January 16 2015 17:32 GMT
#9581
6 hours left.

I'll evaluate the

Artanis,lm,gb / marv, ksc , dandred


theory.

Time to go into full thread diving mode with notes and shit, anyone knows a good text program to summarize all I find?
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