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So, you two can't be mafia together at this point. The question is: Who is.
Kelsier, who at this point is super mafia to me, tried to push the lynch on LM all the time today, trying to move me from marv and onto him arguing that my theory implies marv and Kels bussed LM.
But if LM is town, my theory falls apart and yesterday those were TvT wagons and SL is probably the third scum.
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So, SL. Are you committing yourself to stay on course for marv or not
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On January 16 2015 23:02 sicklucker wrote: No the only way im mafia is if im with Lm
No cause you're trying your best to put scum on him when we are heading for a marv lynch.
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On January 16 2015 23:05 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 23:04 Vivax wrote:On January 16 2015 23:02 sicklucker wrote: No the only way im mafia is if im with Lm No cause you're trying your best to put scum on him when we are heading for a marv lynch. Then im just town
Yhea. For the moment I'll go with that. But since Kelsier tried to make today another LM lynch, I want to spend more time with you and LM in the game. And if we switch, we switch to Kelsier.
Right now we're either waiting for marv to sit back and die, or to come back with some theory that convinces the thread, saves him, and leads to a mislynch.
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Guys...Marv is probably the best scum player on this forum. His last two games he has been bad but that was an exception in the greater picture.
He can't be alive at this day while putting in so few effort in finding the right lynch. He doesn't take town leadership and ride on it like townmarv. Like, I played so many games with this guy, I know what I'm talking of.
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Filter FiveTouch's games (his smurf). He lynched scum left and right, he was always the strongest thread presence. When he smurfed with that it was insane how good he was.
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Rereading marv's filter I found this:
On January 08 2015 07:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 07:10 KelsierSC wrote: i'd actually rather not lynch ritoky today
all that we get today is everyone votes on rit and we get no info. ...
On January 08 2015 07:11 marvellosity wrote: mind = blown
On January 08 2015 07:12 marvellosity wrote: we don't hedge and we don't lynch for voting information, we kill the mafia in front of us.
On January 08 2015 07:14 marvellosity wrote: both "cops" want to lynch vivax. cute.
Kinda supports my case that marv and Kels are scum together as he doesn't even question Kelsier afterwards for what he said, which looks like Kelsier tring to protect ritoky.
Last quote is only there cause...Idk, it's fun. Town and mafia wanted to mislynch me. Anyway I'm going to proceed again with the D1 analysis. See ya later when I find more stuff.
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I'm totally down for a switch to Kelsier now. Before I vote in the vote thread I need to know who's with me. I'm rereading D1 and new theories start coming into my head.
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Actually we still have enough hours left so the game solution shouldn't be too far away. I have a lesson for my Bachelor work tomorrow so still a bit too early to start shenannies.
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Artanis you just suspected Kelsier yourself when I pointed out how he asks you about ritoky but not about geript.
Why not dig further about Kelsier afterwards? Like, I have this theory floating in my mind that you and Kelsier are actually scum and marv just gave up fighting cause he wants to be a dick and make me look like an idiot when he flips town and you guys win.
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On January 16 2015 23:41 Vivax wrote: Actually we still have enough hours left so the game solution shouldn't be too far away. I have a lesson for my Bachelor work tomorrow but fuck that I have to win this game for e-peen so still a bit too early to start shenannies.
Also fixed this
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On January 16 2015 10:53 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 16 2015 10:45 KelsierSC wrote: Or maybe the crazy theory that I want to get a read on artanis so I ask him a question. The problem with this is that, if I'm getting Vivax right, you just made a case on Geript. Generally when you make a case you want attention for it and your focus is on getting that person lynched. Why wouldn't you ask me my opinion on Geript? Why Dr.H/Ritoky? I was trying to get a read on you, geript isn't the only person in the game and I already made my case on him.
Another thing I noticed while rereading this.
When Kelsier asked Artanis this question, Artanis already made his entrance in the thread and...Surprise surprise surprise, Artanis voted geript.
So it was obvious Kelsier wouldn't ask him on geript but instead about ritoky. And Artanis should have known this when he questioned Kelsier himself.
But they both forgot that they already were voting geript at the time, and so KElsier said to his defense "to get a better read on Artanis" (who already had the same scumread as him) and Artanis faked suspicion on Kelsier even thought he should have known that Kelsier couldn't possibly ask him any other question cause they already shared the same scumread.
Artanis + Kels so far.
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Artanis D1 openin read on ritoky:
On December 31 2014 23:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 22:58 Koshi wrote:On December 31 2014 22:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 31 2014 22:33 Koshi wrote: I blame America. That's very unpatriotic of you. Oh I really don't like TheChyz' entry, basically shitflinging from the side and concluding without attempting to become part of the discussion. He has a few opinions but none of them are strong and then he doesn't ask any questions to bolster his reads. Chyz why aren't you asking any questions? You think this is mafia entering the thread? Why? He is trying to stop the shitposting. 1) Did you find Dr.H. opening post alignment indicative? 2) Why do you think ritoky went after Dr.H. so hard? 3) Do you disagree with TheChyz that ritoky was just filling his filter? 4) He ended his opening post asking ritoky to do something constructive. That's right on the money. Pro town. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. 1) I agree that it isn't alignment indicative. 2) Because he thought he found a bone to pick on. It's too early to say whether that's because he just wants a target or because he legitimately believes he has something here. All I remember from Ritoky is his USA USA USA campaign in Cell. 3) I don't have enough information to say that one way or the other. 4) Telling people to do something constructive when you're not doing anything constructive yourself is not pro town. It's stating the obvious whilst not doing it yourself. Chyz has not asked any questions. He's not trying to solve the game.
On January 01 2015 01:06 KelsierSC wrote: Artanis can you give a read on some other players who have spoken.
Ritoky and DrH specifically.
Also notice this, it's a scum scum interaction cause at the time Kelsier asked Artanis for his read on DrH and ritoky, ARTANIS ALREADY GAVE IT. It's just that Kelsier missed it but since one of their scumbuddies was involved in it, and they both are scumbuddies, it seemed important to them even though they were both already voting geript together.
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2) Because he thought he found a bone to pick on. It's too early to say whether that's because he just wants a target or because he legitimately believes he has something here. All I remember from Ritoky is his USA USA USA campaign in Cell.
Also notice what Artanis said about ritoky's attack on DrH
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Artanis, give me one reason or more to not lynch Kelsier today instead of marv.
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On January 17 2015 00:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 00:18 Vivax wrote: Artanis, give me one reason or more to not lynch Kelsier today instead of marv. Kelsier is defending himself. Marv has gone afk.
Yes cause if he's town he wants us to lose right now to make me look like a shitter. Or he's busy and will come back in full fighting mode.
But for now, I want reasons that aren't related to activity, Why not lynch Kelsier?
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Yes I'm serious, rereading the start of the game with so many flips already giving us alignments is very informative.
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On January 17 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: It seems like you've just gotten a crazy idea in your head and you're looking for ways to prove it rather than actually looking at it objectively. You want to be right so badly you see clues in everything when they can just as easily if not more so explained from a town perspective.
What was Kelsier's point of asking you for a read on DrH and ritoky when you already gave it before?
What was the point of him being suspicious of you when you were already voting the same target?
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On January 17 2015 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 00:26 Vivax wrote:On January 17 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: It seems like you've just gotten a crazy idea in your head and you're looking for ways to prove it rather than actually looking at it objectively. You want to be right so badly you see clues in everything when they can just as easily if not more so explained from a town perspective. What was Kelsier's point of asking you for a read on DrH and ritoky when you already gave it before? What was the point of him being suspicious of you when you were already voting the same target? He probably asked it to me because he saw me, figured there had been talk about ritoky and Dr.H before without checking my filter first. Spur of the moment thing. I'm voting the same target as you are yet you're suspicious of me. What gives?
There is no point in asking you that question without reading your filter first if his purpose was to get a better read on you like he claimed lately.
It gives that I noticed all this stuff rereading D1, Kelsier is scummy as hell, and you didn't further inquire on him when I pointed out that he asked for your read on DrH and ritoky.
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And Kelsier asked you for a read on ritoky while calling DrH supertown but not giving any statement on ritoky.
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