Imperial Mafia - Page 48

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 01 2015 18:12 GMT

#941

Yes, I believe so. He was lynched in that game. Barely tilts, keeps his cool and continues following through confidently on all his reads: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?user=TheChyz&page=5

justanothertownie

16326 Posts

January 01 2015 18:12 GMT

#942

What makes Chyz actually look worse for me is that he just disappeared when the pressure was over and didn't show up since then. Why did slam start this game at NYE -.-

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 01 2015 18:13 GMT

#943

he also basically tunnels geript that whole entire game when in this game he hasn't done shit about his reads besides throw things to the wall to see what sticks. flips on koshi when town sentiment changes. unsure language, seeking approval, etc. it's all there with or without the extreme meta shift to contrast it to

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

January 01 2015 18:14 GMT

#944

On January 02 2015 03:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
You're wrong. There's no way he changed that much for the worse. The simpler explanation is better. Also this weird thing where geript and chyz talk about each other a lot in their own posts but never reply to each other directly is my #1 scumteam flag

Meh, not really convinced. You also have to take in account that he was in a different situation (I'm guessing since I don't bother to check). This game he has been under super heavy pressure since his first post. Its not that strange for him to handle that situation in another way than he would usually do.

I think geript still is the superior lynch.

justanothertownie

16326 Posts

January 01 2015 18:15 GMT

#945

See Dr. H, I feel like I should have a strong opinion on chyz and your case by now and I just don't. I don't townread him but I just don't see what you are seeing.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 01 2015 18:15 GMT

#946

just look through thechyz's filter and ask yourself does this guy give a shit about finding scum. does this guy really believe in his own reads., look at the difference in tone. look at how he denigrates himself and calls himself a hypocrite in his own arguments preemptively deflecting criticism when he wasn't even concerned with the heat he was getting in cultured much as long as he could focus on geript. he has put no effort into pressuring his reads and for the most part doesn't even engage with them in the thread.

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

January 01 2015 18:16 GMT

#947

On January 02 2015 03:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

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Anything else? What about his soft reads? What about his seeking of town approval? What about his criticizing of everyone else for not having enough reads or not doing any scum hunting when he doesn't push his own reads or have confidence in them. Twice he has accused people suspicious of him (who backed it up with votes and several posts of pressure and explanation) of having softreads and being wishy washy/parroting/whatever. It all comes together as just total scummy bullshit, this is getting really really frustrating for me.

Like I said earlier, I don't disagree with his actions being bad. The reason I'm not as confident in my read on him is because I'm not as sure that his actions make him scum.

Why do you think he cannnot be bad town?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12971 Posts

January 01 2015 18:17 GMT

#948

On January 02 2015 02:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm waiting for your tl;dr edition on your TheChyz read.

+ Show Spoiler +

The point regarding the very different play from his old game is good though.

On January 02 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:
What makes Chyz actually look worse for me is that he just disappeared when the pressure was over and didn't show up since then. Why did slam start this game at NYE -.-

Agreed. The most damning point might still be how he told everyone to look elsewhere for discussion, then never really did anything himself.

I'm good with both a Geript and Chyz lynch. Preferably carpet bomb them both somehow tbh.

On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:

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Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game?

The game didn't have a start date for the longest time. If Marv planned shit for NYE I'm not going to lynch him for it.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 01 2015 18:18 GMT

#949

I am just skimming all these posts about Chyz.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 01 2015 18:19 GMT

#950

Because it's clear from cultured that he isn't bad at town at all it's such a shocking drop off. He had been playing badly before the pressure, he played badly when it was one vote on him. In the last game he played cool up until he was lynched. He is apparently pressured in this game as well because:

On February 27 2014 08:29 TheChyz wrote:
I still don't understand vivax why you wouldn't take a look at me after quiet a bit of the voting has gone my way. Do you somehow know I'm town? My filter is short enough so it surely is not the effort required.

Not even worried. Welcoming scrutiny.

Why did he decide to stop pushing his reads? Why did he decide to stop engaging with and asking questions to the people is suspicious of? Shit, in this thread he is even proactive about telling people when he can't be active. Because he has a stake in the game, his legitimate read on geript. ALL Of his reads in this game are fake and made up which is why he won't push or do anything about them and just wants to find out how many people agree.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 01 2015 18:21 GMT

#951

and tells everyone else how to play, that they're not putting in enough effort scumhunting from day 1 with a "hey guys im so pro town

" cred fishing post. this is classic newb mafia play. this is not what happens after a player has a good and confident town game, even if they are mislynched. this is wrong.

I will get behind a geript vote if I have to though. Notice how they use each other in their posts but never actually engage with each other

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

January 01 2015 18:36 GMT

#952

I will kill geript over Lazermonkey but still want Chyz

Lol boss busted me @ work probs no phone for a while. Pz

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12971 Posts

January 01 2015 18:39 GMT

#953

I think I'll just lynch whoever doesn't come back today between Geript and Chyz.

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

January 01 2015 18:42 GMT

#954

On January 02 2015 03:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
and tells everyone else how to play, that they're not putting in enough effort scumhunting from day 1 with a "hey guys im so pro town

I got to go now, will be back in some hours. Will take a serious look at that other game Chyz played and see if I can draw any conlusions out of that.

TheChyz

Canada238 Posts

January 01 2015 18:45 GMT

#955

Happy New Years!

I'll be catching up on the thread for the next few minutes.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 01 2015 18:46 GMT

#956

Happy new years, no hard feelings

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12971 Posts

January 01 2015 18:55 GMT

#957

On January 02 2015 03:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think I'll just lynch whoever doesn't come back today between Geript and Chyz.

On January 02 2015 03:45 TheChyz wrote:
Happy New Years!

I'll be catching up on the thread for the next few minutes.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 01 2015 19:01 GMT

#958

ahoyhoy!

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

January 01 2015 19:13 GMT

#959

On January 01 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:

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On January 01 2015 06:13 geript wrote:

On January 01 2015 06:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On January 01 2015 05:49 geript wrote:

On January 01 2015 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Geript you asked me about 3 people earlier, one of them was sicklucker then you never really got back to the post after I mentioned he escaped me. Was there anything about him that you found of note? I'm scrolling through his filter and it's not bad.

I find how much he holds onto the expected meta case a bit weird and wasn't sure what to think of it. That and I don't feel like spending an hour to read 4 other games when he only has a 2 page filter. Plus I don't want to go back and have to figure out his usual post count and content per day.

Alright, let's reconstruct this. I believe it started here:

On December 31 2014 14:35 sicklucker wrote:
##vote geript for voting for shitty reasons because mafia would do that right? ;p

Geript replies 10 minutes later asking if he only played town before, then asks for a link to his previous scumgame which sicklucker declines. Sicklucker then brings it up again later (Geript asks for an opinion from Dr. H in the meantime) after which:

On December 31 2014 15:57 geript wrote:

On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote:
Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot.

It's ok babygirl. I've never meta'd anyone ever before. You'll be getting my meta v-card.

Possibly a joke, but it could definitely be interpreted as serious. If he does interpret it as serious I can see someone like sicklucker chasing the bone. Given his pretty proactive game so far I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Is that your only reason for finding him suspect?

That and he thinks I'm mafia so I naturally want to kill him. But for the most part yah that's all.

While in the shower I realized why I think Marv's mafia. Town!Marv doesn't fear lynch; he definitely doesn't fear lynch on D1.

How is marv fearlynching? Are you for real?

if there's not a decent answer from geript following this post somewhere, he should die with great fire and brimstone