EPTScum explanation: Artanis heard from Vivax that Kelsier made a case on Geript at the time yet asked him about Dr.H/Ritoky, finds it odd and questions Kelsier on it. He forgot his vote was on Geript already because it's weeks ago and he doesn't remember every detail.
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Scum explanation: Artanis heard from Vivax that Kelsier made a case on Geript at the time yet asked him about Dr.H/Ritoky, finds it odd and questions Kelsier on it. He forgot his vote was on Geript already because it's weeks ago and he doesn't remember every detail. | ||
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On December 31 2014 23:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: 1) I agree that it isn't alignment indicative. 2) Because he thought he found a bone to pick on. It's too early to say whether that's because he just wants a target or because he legitimately believes he has something here. All I remember from Ritoky is his USA USA USA campaign in Cell. 3) I don't have enough information to say that one way or the other. 4) Telling people to do something constructive when you're not doing anything constructive yourself is not pro town. It's stating the obvious whilst not doing it yourself. Chyz has not asked any questions. He's not trying to solve the game. On January 01 2015 01:06 KelsierSC wrote: Artanis can you give a read on some other players who have spoken. Ritoky and DrH specifically. Also notice this, it's a scum scum interaction cause at the time Kelsier asked Artanis for his read on DrH and ritoky, ARTANIS ALREADY GAVE IT. It's just that Kelsier missed it but since one of their scumbuddies was involved in it, and they both are scumbuddies, it seemed important to them even though they were both already voting geript together. | ||
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2) Because he thought he found a bone to pick on. It's too early to say whether that's because he just wants a target or because he legitimately believes he has something here. All I remember from Ritoky is his USA USA USA campaign in Cell. Also notice what Artanis said about ritoky's attack on DrH | ||
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He also pressured Robik in a very needless manner, stating how he expects him to play better yet explicitly not scumreading him. | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:18 Vivax wrote: Artanis, give me one reason or more to not lynch Kelsier today instead of marv. Kelsier is defending himself. Marv has gone afk. | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Kelsier is defending himself. Marv has gone afk. Yes cause if he's town he wants us to lose right now to make me look like a shitter. Or he's busy and will come back in full fighting mode. But for now, I want reasons that aren't related to activity, Why not lynch Kelsier? | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:21 Vivax wrote: Yes cause if he's town he wants us to lose right now to make me look like a shitter. Or he's busy and will come back in full fighting mode. But for now, I want reasons that aren't related to activity, Why not lynch Kelsier? What happened to following the flow chart? What happened to your desire to lynch marv? Why are you suddenly having second doubts? Marv has pushed nothing strongly. He's on the lynching pole and he's not here. That's all the evidence you need. | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: It seems like you've just gotten a crazy idea in your head and you're looking for ways to prove it rather than actually looking at it objectively. You want to be right so badly you see clues in everything when they can just as easily if not more so explained from a town perspective. What was Kelsier's point of asking you for a read on DrH and ritoky when you already gave it before? What was the point of him being suspicious of you when you were already voting the same target? | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:26 Vivax wrote: What was Kelsier's point of asking you for a read on DrH and ritoky when you already gave it before? What was the point of him being suspicious of you when you were already voting the same target? He probably asked it to me because he saw me, figured there had been talk about ritoky and Dr.H before without checking my filter first. Spur of the moment thing. I'm voting the same target as you are yet you're suspicious of me. What gives? | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He probably asked it to me because he saw me, figured there had been talk about ritoky and Dr.H before without checking my filter first. Spur of the moment thing. I'm voting the same target as you are yet you're suspicious of me. What gives? There is no point in asking you that question without reading your filter first if his purpose was to get a better read on you like he claimed lately. It gives that I noticed all this stuff rereading D1, Kelsier is scummy as hell, and you didn't further inquire on him when I pointed out that he asked for your read on DrH and ritoky. | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote: There is no point in asking you that question without reading your filter first if his purpose was to get a better read on you like he claimed lately. It gives that I noticed all this stuff rereading D1, Kelsier is scummy as hell, and you didn't further inquire on him when I pointed out that he asked for your read on DrH and ritoky. Or he asked that question, then checks my filter to see if it makes sense. Or if he's scum he's just saying it to look good. I'm not saying Kelsier is not scum, I'm saying that connecting him to me makes fuck all sense. I did further inquire on it. I asked him a bunch of questions on it. I just didn't go back to that specific time before asking him those questions. | ||
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On January 17 2015 00:33 Vivax wrote: And Kelsier asked you for a read on ritoky while calling DrH supertown but not giving any statement on ritoky. So if Kelsier asked anyone else for a read on someone he hadn't given a read on himself yet they're scum too? Let's see how many people I can get into your scumteam. | ||
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On December 31 2014 19:48 KelsierSC wrote: sicklucker can you explain what the issue is with ritoky attacking doctor? you have a huge town read on doctor at that point? Guess SL's scum since he hadn't given a statement on those two yet. On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote: Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game? I guess Lazer is scum because he hadn't given reads on most of the "other players in the game" yet. Wait, that means we have 4 scum left because I'm scum with Kelsier, SL and Lazermonkey. Guess Slam must've messed up in the role PM's. | ||
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