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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 14 2015 23:56 GMT
#8677
2 hours left, better reread all of D4 before the NK pops in.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 14 2015 23:57 GMT
#8678
Artanis, wanna hear a new theory before I do that?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:00 GMT
#8682
On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.

you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.

Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day?

Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit.
Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere.
Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs.
This makes SL scum how?


Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him.
Not an argument I would use however.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:12 GMT
#8691
Ok, so here we go:

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I don' think LM is lying when he says he has exams and can't play properly. But he's scum, which is why we witnessed so much brain farting when I questioned him.

He told his scumbuddies that he's scum, and that he won't have time to play and said "Pls, bus me cause I can't try harder than this".

Now I go into a hypothetical world where SL is town. He's just a town who says a ton of dumb shit that makes me scumread him everytime. Kels softed cop D1, and he was actually right when he said that LM scumslipped he was scum with super. But the Vivax I am, who doesn't care about filter size and has trouble distingishing bad from scum, I keep pushing him thinking he's scum while in fact he's just the next JAT.

So marv and Kelsier agreed. They would push the wagon on him, grab a shitton of cred, and carry their team to victory.

Now it's night. I found another load of reasons to push SL with. But scum can't push him. They can't push him cause they will need an ally tomorrow, after they NK Artanis and push the lynch on me. GB is somewhat doing his own thing with Damdred, and Damdred is basically my ally. Plenty of room for the next mislynch. They can push Damdred, they can push me.

That's why Kelsier shows absolutely zero suspicion on SL, and instead tries to win his favour by defending him and trying to discredit me.

That's why marv keeps silent. He doesn't need to do a thing if SL is indeed town. He just sits back and enjoys, waiting for the opportunity to strike while I keep pushing a townie. They will probably lose LM at some point, probably tomorrow, but afterwards, Chez will side with Kelsier and marv cause of the palmar lynch he didn't want, and GB will probably accept the theory that I'm scum with Damdred and be willing to lynch either of us.

Capiche? That's basically a possible scenario. I guarantee you. Marv will never die on a night this game. Marv isn't trying to solve this game. He's just setting up the stage to win the game for scum.

So, according to this theory where I assume SL is scum. The team left is: Kelsier, marv, LM
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:13 GMT
#8693
On January 15 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which leaves me squarely at a Marv/Kelsier/LM team by POE.


NINJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:15 GMT
#8697
SL if you're town read my post and keep it in my mind. You will need it after this night.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:17 GMT
#8701
So, according to this theory where I assume SL is scum

EBWOP: Where I assume he's town
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:19 GMT
#8703
On January 15 2015 09:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Except ive been pushing on lm basically the entire game.



Have you pushed him tonight? Did you question him and cause him to display that his reads are fake? No, cause I did that. What you have been doing tonight is defend SL and discredit me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:21 GMT
#8704
On January 15 2015 09:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 09:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:14 sicklucker wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.

you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.

Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day?

Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit.
Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere.
Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs.
This makes SL scum how?


Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him.
Not an argument I would use however.


Thats just not true at all. If anything im town because ritoky put scum on me and never believed my claim


Actually he did believe you until d3 after you took your claim back. I even quoted Ritoky saying oh ok your the cop you are off the table for lynch.

now i'm gone


Like 3 people were super against my claim. Ritoky super and ksc. Of course mafia cant vote an uncced cop there gonna look super bad.


Of course, Kelsier had to find out if you were the real cop. Town motivation to do so? Find out if you're scum.

Scum motivation? Find out if you're worth a NK.

So if he's town and finds out you're not the cop, what was the point of digging so deep when he doesn't scumread you afterwards?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:22 GMT
#8706
Artanis I think we just solved this shit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:24 GMT
#8708
Now it's up to Chez, GB, Damdred and SL to do the rest.

I don't count myself cause I don't have the marv wizardry to be able to begull the thread, which earns him a 90 % scum winrate
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:24 GMT
#8710
I think you will die, I'm not as charismatic
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:26 GMT
#8712
Kelsier I don't care what you write there cause I adapt to new information and draw a full picture that makes sense and you just pick single posts supposed to make me look bad.

Game solved, gg nore
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:27 GMT
#8714
I said shit at EoD and didn't follow through with it until the end? That's cause I adapt. If I said shit and stick to it no matter what new stuff shows up, then I'm scum.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:30 GMT
#8715
Sorry for tunneling you SL. I hope you can forgive me, it's one of my bad habits
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:32 GMT
#8717
Process of elimination.

GB I want you to comment on the posted theories while Artanis and me are still alive
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:37 GMT
#8721
I don't care Kelsier cause tomorrow I'll just spam what Artanis and me wrote on the last page.

And I'd be a fool to kill Artanis in this situation if I'm mafia, he's like my biggest bro right now, we posted the same scumteam within 5 minutes and more valuable than me pointing back to this post to prove I'm town cause he died.

So GL choosing your NK.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 00:49 GMT
#8723
I'm not talking to you, I'll be talking to everyone else why you're scum though.
I'm going to look at who exactly pushed SL for his cop claim, and stopped going after him when they found out it was fake.

And trust me, you don't want to be in that group of people.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 01:35 GMT
#8744
On January 15 2015 09:58 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 09:21 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:18 sicklucker wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:14 sicklucker wrote:
On January 15 2015 09:00 Vivax wrote:
On January 15 2015 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 14 2015 14:26 Damdred wrote:
See you can't even see anything we are saying, you are overly defensive at this point.

you call me confirmed town and echo robs thoughts until thread changes and you discard half of them and cling to still trying to confirm people as town. I honestly think you've played a great scum game AND going through Marvs filter I found a ritoky quote.

Theory time, ritoky was ok with SLs cllaim at the time even said that it takes SL off the lynch table. I have to dig more to see what ritoky did with it afterwards, but if rit plays the cop card the next day... Why didn't he do it then when SL a much easier person was up that he could of potentially mislynched if SL was town? Instead gives the claim credit at this point and then claims the next day?

Damdred explain this to me like I'm 4. I think I've asked this before but my memory is shit.
Kelsier softs cop, SL fakeclaims, Kelsier rescinds, mafia doesn't counterclaim anywhere.
Mafia (ritoky) fakeclaims, robik (real cop) CCs.
This makes SL scum how?


Cause ritoky didn't try to lynch SL for what he did, and instead cleared him.
Not an argument I would use however.


Thats just not true at all. If anything im town because ritoky put scum on me and never believed my claim


Actually he did believe you until d3 after you took your claim back. I even quoted Ritoky saying oh ok your the cop you are off the table for lynch.

now i'm gone


Like 3 people were super against my claim. Ritoky super and ksc. Of course mafia cant vote an uncced cop there gonna look super bad.


Of course, Kelsier had to find out if you were the real cop. Town motivation to do so? Find out if you're scum.

Scum motivation? Find out if you're worth a NK.

So if he's town and finds out you're not the cop, what was the point of digging so deep when he doesn't scumread you afterwards?


he definitely scum read me afterwords? Like your reacing the conclusion your wrong on this look at othe rangles


He did? But he said.

Then geript flips town. So why does mafia late hammer a town when the vote is two towns. I listen to jat and robin and thy make good points why sl Is town. Hence my read changes.


He uncovers you are not the cop during the night. So if this reason Kelsier gives happened before he uncovered your cop claim, he's a proven liar. Need to check.

@ GB


Question: why didn't SL instantly lynched Lazer instead doing that ridiculous thing of voting and unvoting?


I don't know, ask him.

On January 15 2015 10:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 13:58 liancourt wrote:
I Count this vote Pocahontas


Palmar (5): marvellosity, sicklucker, Artanis[Xp], Glowingbear, KelsierSC, Vivax, sicklucker, Damdred, sicklucker
Lazermonkey (4): GlowingBear, Marvellosity, KelsierSC, Damdred, Palmar, sicklucker, Chezinu
GlowingBear (0): Lazermonkey, sicklucker
Marvellosity (1): Vivax, palmar, Lazermonkey
damdred (0): Chezinu, GlowingBear
sicklucker (0): Vivax

Not Voting: -

Currently Palmar is set to be lynched.
Deadline is in



You guys are basically saying lazermonkey risked having his mafia partner killed instead of voting palmar for survival


LM wasn't around at deadline.

On January 15 2015 10:24 KelsierSC wrote:
So just to Math this out.

In this situation where a town got mislynched. Tomorrow its 5 vs 3 and mafia can win that day with a mislynch.

If lazer was lynched yesterday and he is mafia. Then tomorrow it is 6 town vs 2 mafia. If mislynch then it goes to 4 town and 2 mafia and mafia will require another mislynch and a day to win the game.

If you want to explain why mafia adds an extra day and tries to get 2 mislynches in a row with less people then go ahead.


Already did. Cause Lazer is busy and you and marv bussing him gives you a freewin in the later days, unless people start wondering why you don't get killed at night.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
January 15 2015 01:57 GMT
#8759
On January 15 2015 10:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 10:50 KelsierSC wrote:
He doesn't willingly sacrifice his vote to you. He wouldn't have voted on lm if you had. In fact he set it up so he would only vote on palmar or Marv. Read my point about him.


Actually this does make me curious why Vivax flipped his read on LM. Vivax explain.


I was convinced marv and SL were scum at the time, didn't really bother with Kels up until now.
I see a wagon pushed by 2 scumreads, plus the marv-distancing theory between him and Palmar that left me the inch of doubt on him even though I townread him for effort cause he sacrificed sleep, so I figured LM was another town wagon, and explicitly said I'd lynch my townread to lynch my scumread tomorrow.
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