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On January 16 2015 11:20 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 11:15 KelsierSC wrote:On January 16 2015 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:On January 16 2015 11:09 KelsierSC wrote:
I find it fascinating that
I make a well constructed argument on viv that spans his entire game and points out glaring inconsitencies, looks at vote logic, takes into account the view of the confirmed town. and GB and artanis say "good case" thats it.
Yet viv makes a post saying "you asked artanis a question on p24, start of d1, SLAM DUNK CASE" and people act like I'm confirmed mafia.
I have to be dreaming. I've made a whole meta case on you. If you think that I'm just sheeping Vivax, you should re read what I'm writing. your meta case is that I am aggressive as town because of my first game. Yes I was overly aggressive and people got really fuckng pissed off and didn't listen to me. Yelling and screaming isn't a good way to play so overall I toned down my play. Yes I have a phone which I have to use in the evenings so I don't wake my girlfriend. (2am here) that is surprisingly not alignment indicative I don't think I give out easy town reads D1 at all, I town read DrH yeh but I don't think that makes me mafia. Maybe look at THIS GAME rather than taking 2 posts from two of my old games, one of which was my first ever game! and making your read. You've used this same argument on FFL. Can you quote the post where Robik says to lynch Vivax first?
No, I am on my phone. He said it.
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On January 16 2015 11:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 11:09 KelsierSC wrote:
I find it fascinating that
I make a well constructed argument on viv that spans his entire game and points out glaring inconsitencies, looks at vote logic, takes into account the view of the confirmed town. and GB and artanis say "good case" thats it.
Yet viv makes a post saying "you asked artanis a question on p24, start of d1, SLAM DUNK CASE" and people act like I'm confirmed mafia.
I have to be dreaming. A good case doesn't mean someone is scum. Half the case on Vivax is that LM is scum and Vivax/LM makes sense. I'm not convinced LM is scum yet. It's also how Vivax' thought process aligned with my own at the end of last night. Plus by sheer effort alone, looking at his scumgames he's highly likely to be town.
one point is that vivax and Lm are together , when he says he will follow you unless you vote on the same guy as marv.
The rest of it stands by itself.
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if it is by sheer effort... why the fuck is marv the lynch when he has a 40 page filter rather than LM who has a filter size of 18.
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On January 16 2015 11:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 11:29 KelsierSC wrote:
if it is by sheer effort... why the fuck is marv the lynch when he has a 40 page filter rather than LM who has a filter size of 18.
Because the vast majority of those are oneliners and he hasn't really been pushing much. He's just been present but not really present. LM and Marv are different players which require different expectations. I did not expect LM to have the largest filter this game regardless of alignment.
Fair enough
I will make a case on LM tomorrow and which ever of you donkeys are town will hopefully be convinced
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I meant to write three not donkeys
sorry if I offended anyone
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On January 16 2015 11:22 KelsierSC wrote:
so let me just clarify this
- I ask artanis a question start of d1 to get a read on him
- I ask SL if he is going to reclam cop after SL says "I will reclaim cop tomorrow"
- using vote logic and reasons from my town reads I change my reads on SL
- 2 posts from old games one of which was my first game, and the fact I play using my phone in the evenings.
I'm mafia????
You read my post on vivax and you think he is town? Even though you both said my case is good
Can someone town please speak up and ask wtf is going on here
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weird to imagine why I ask someone a question to read them? yeh that is crazy.
when SL claimed scum at first I thought he was joking, when he wouldn't rescend and when he said he checked dam I questioned him because he was my scum read and it didn't make sense. Is it irrational to question your scum read when they claim cop?
the whole GB meta read is total nonsense. I stated I was overly aggressive in my first ever game and nobody listened to me so I have played calmer and tried to present an objective view of things. It isn't my town "meta" to just yell at everyone.
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SL if you actually read my filter I don't sheep you at all. so I don't know how you are getting that idea.
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On January 16 2015 11:56 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 11:49 KelsierSC wrote:
weird to imagine why I ask someone a question to read them? yeh that is crazy.
when SL claimed scum at first I thought he was joking, when he wouldn't rescend and when he said he checked dam I questioned him because he was my scum read and it didn't make sense. Is it irrational to question your scum read when they claim cop?
the whole GB meta read is total nonsense. I stated I was overly aggressive in my first ever game and nobody listened to me so I have played calmer and tried to present an objective view of things. It isn't my town "meta" to just yell at everyone.
See I dont think it was a joke... I think you played it off as one.. this fits your rolehunting scum meta from carol.
well it was
have you read my case on viv, go read that please
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On January 16 2015 11:56 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 11:49 KelsierSC wrote:
weird to imagine why I ask someone a question to read them? yeh that is crazy.
when SL claimed scum at first I thought he was joking, when he wouldn't rescend and when he said he checked dam I questioned him because he was my scum read and it didn't make sense. Is it irrational to question your scum read when they claim cop?
the whole GB meta read is total nonsense. I stated I was overly aggressive in my first ever game and nobody listened to me so I have played calmer and tried to present an objective view of things. It isn't my town "meta" to just yell at everyone.
See I dont think it was a joke... I think you played it off as one.. this fits your rolehunting scum meta from carol.
Da fuq?
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On January 16 2015 11:59 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2015 11:57 KelsierSC wrote:On January 16 2015 11:56 sicklucker wrote:On January 16 2015 11:49 KelsierSC wrote:
weird to imagine why I ask someone a question to read them? yeh that is crazy.
when SL claimed scum at first I thought he was joking, when he wouldn't rescend and when he said he checked dam I questioned him because he was my scum read and it didn't make sense. Is it irrational to question your scum read when they claim cop?
the whole GB meta read is total nonsense. I stated I was overly aggressive in my first ever game and nobody listened to me so I have played calmer and tried to present an objective view of things. It isn't my town "meta" to just yell at everyone.
See I dont think it was a joke... I think you played it off as one.. this fits your rolehunting scum meta from carol. Da fuq? Remember that time you tricked kush to claim his role and you were mafia?... That was really wellplay are you not admitting this happened?
I just did this so I could fake a scum read on FF. I don't even know if kush was that role because I was in hospital for most of that game.
Maybe you can actually look at my play this game to get your read.
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On January 16 2015 12:03 sicklucker wrote:
Wtf I dont believe that at all. You were like on day 1 "marley should claim" Kush was an idiot and believed you. You were mafia that game...
well that is what I did, if you want to be thorough you can go and check the mafia qt from that game because I mention it there aswell.
read my case on viv?
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On January 16 2015 12:04 sicklucker wrote:
Either way as town or mafia you gotta stop this bluehunting shit you do because its making it hard to read you
you mean that joke I made?
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guess SL got trampled by a moose or something.
Anyway tomorrow I will make the case on why LM is mafia.
You can all read my extensive case on viv, 80% of that is stand alone, it is using good vote logic, the reads from confirmed town and is a strong case. The other 20% relies on LM being mafia which I will prove tomorrow.
To that case you can add that viv has made a number of poor arguments to call me scum. He has resorted to going through my filter taking anything I say, calling it mafia and making it a "SLAM DUNK CASE" Apparently me asking Artanis a question on d1 page 24 is a slam dunk case.
fair to say that none of the cases truly hold water and my responses can be viewed in my filter.
I haven't played particularly well this game, I was wrong on geript and I was wrong on bats but I have tried to figure out this game , presented good cases and gone about the game in a consistent logical fashion.
As final food for thought I once again state that if vivax was town and I am mafia then JAT,Robik,Koshi and Geript were all wrong on vivax and that JAT and Robik were once again, wrong on me.
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with that im off to bed
SL please respond when you get back
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So do you believe now that I wasn't role hunting that mafia game and therefore that isn't my mafia meta?
Did you read my case on viv
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