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KelsierSC

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January 16 2015 00:26 GMT

#9205

On January 16 2015 09:25 Vivax wrote:

No, he's an interchangeable spot however as I still have doubts on the third slot, Damdred, to be specific.

You and marv sit in the first and second there tightly.

But your main point about me being mafia is I bussed lm

KelsierSC

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January 16 2015 00:29 GMT

#9208

On January 16 2015 09:26 GlowingBear wrote:

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- gonna take a look at his votes later but his votes are odd considering the guys marv's scumreads.
- easy to have town reads on confirmed townies when you have perfect information
- 5 people are voting him and there is only 3 scum left. There are at least 2 townies voting marv
- smart town orientated post, solely one, is easy to make.

So, weak reasons to give marv a 100% town read.

My two scum reads are voting him pretty good reason to think he's town.
You misunderstand me. The confirmed towns, townread Marv.
Like 4 confirms towns scumread viv

KelsierSC

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January 16 2015 00:34 GMT

#9211

On January 16 2015 09:28 Vivax wrote:

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I have no main point. I have a fuckton of points, you slipping that GB is town, you not considering I'm town when I made LS slip while I was questioning him. Your read there should have evolved from "Oh wow Vivax just made LM slip" instead you kept posting that me and LM are scum.

Implying a scum made another scum slip.

I never said Gb was town.

You have combed my filter in a desperate attempt to call me scum and have been proved wanting.

I want to see what dam , sl and artanis make of my case on viv.

Gb if you like my case on Viv can you explain why younare happy to lynch Marv.

KelsierSC

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January 16 2015 00:44 GMT

#9217

On January 16 2015 09:38 Vivax wrote:
I know you didn't say GB was town, but the point is that you talked to him like he's a townie that should listen to you for reasons.

You asked for support from a scumread., and that's cause you know his alignment to be town and slipped that.

i don't know his alignment i asked him to go make up his mind. Honestly you are just reeking of desperation to throw scum on me when your arguments don't make any sense.

your case
- i asked SL a question d1
- apparently I "couldn't have been convicned by JAT and robik" well the votes and the cases by JAT and Robik did convince me. why am i scum for changing a read on SL ?

hmm yes I really feel the noose closing in

KelsierSC

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January 16 2015 00:47 GMT

#9220

On January 16 2015 09:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also your theory for Vivax being scum rests heavily upon LM being scum. If LM is town half of it falls apart.

the part where he ensures he doesn't vote on LM, yes that part does fall apart if LM is town. But the rest of the case still stands.
But I am 100% convinced LM is mafia. Viv was but now apparently LM is a ?. So he wants to lynch marv instead. Remember when you talked about the person who "blinks first". viv is blinking here.

Dam is town I have presented good arguments for that. LM is the right lynch here not marv

KelsierSC

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January 16 2015 00:49 GMT

#9225

On January 16 2015 09:45 Vivax wrote:

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But you kept asking SL if he was the cop after the night ended, so if you were already convinced, what was the point of that?

I have been patient enough I think to explain this point about 3 times already.

SL stated " I will reclaim cop tomorrow" So I asked if he was going to do that.

JAT and the votes convinced me SL was not mafia. I didn't know if he was cop or not.

Again why does this make me mafia?

KelsierSC

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January 16 2015 00:55 GMT

#9233

I don't remember the names but I have only played two town games.

my first game was a newbie mini I think.

then I played the game where I got the cop killed n1 and accidentally slept through the votes and got mod killed.

Not a particularly stellar record.

I think you have enough information this game to make a judgement rather than trying to get a "meta read" out of all that. Do work

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 01:00 GMT

#9239

On January 16 2015 09:58 Damdred wrote:
Kels last town game was a newbie, he's like cr he's rolled mafia 3/5 times I think

I rolled mafia twice and town twice.

this is my fifth game.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 01:05 GMT

#9250

On January 16 2015 10:01 Damdred wrote:
You rolled mafia in yamatos game and replaced out, in Carol, and in ffl

oh yeh I forgot I was even in yamatos game.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 01:09 GMT

#9252

I can't make a case on LM with quotes etc right now because on the phone and I prefer to give a strong, well formatted case.

I have, from D1 , made cases on LM and so you can filter dive me, or damdred to see them. Although I understand if you don't want to wade through my 30 pages.

Damdred made an excellent point especially regarding how LM voted on marv.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 01:35 GMT

#9262

yep asking questions and trying to develop reads on D1

you got me.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 01:45 GMT

#9269

Or maybe the crazy theory that I want to get a read on artanis so I ask him a question.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 01:53 GMT

#9273

On January 16 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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The problem with this is that, if I'm getting Vivax right, you just made a case on Geript. Generally when you make a case you want attention for it and your focus is on getting that person lynched. Why wouldn't you ask me my opinion on Geript? Why Dr.H/Ritoky?

I was trying to get a read on you, geript isn't the only person in the game and I already made my case on him.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 01:56 GMT

#9276

On January 16 2015 10:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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You'd already made your case on Dr.H being town too so that can't be an argument.

I ask you a question to get a read on you. I don't understand why that makes me scummy.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 02:04 GMT

#9285

On January 16 2015 10:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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You went from Point A (Townreading Dr.H) to Point B (Scumreading Geript) to Point C (asking me questions to get a read on me). You say you didn't ask me about Geript because you already made your case on him. That's in contradiction with asking me about Dr.H, because you already made your case on him too (but Town rather than scum). In fact, it makes less sense to ask me about Dr.H than Geript because when you're town you want people to think about your scumreads, not your townreads.

This was start of D1 Right? If i Recall most of the start was DrH tunneling chyz. you then joined the thread and I asked you a question to develop a read on you. I will have to revisit the thread in detail but what I can say right now is I asked you a question on d1 to read you.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 02:06 GMT

#9287

I took LM out of my reads for d2 because of EOD 1 when bats got lynched.

I thought geript was mafia and the mafia late on bats to save him.

LM had his vote on geript EOD1 so I he wasn't a focus for me on d2

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 02:09 GMT

#9290

I find it fascinating that

I make a well constructed argument on viv that spans his entire game and points out glaring inconsitencies, looks at vote logic, takes into account the view of the confirmed town. and GB and artanis say "good case" thats it.

Yet viv makes a post saying "you asked artanis a question on p24, start of d1, SLAM DUNK CASE" and people act like I'm confirmed mafia.

I have to be dreaming.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 02:11 GMT

#9295

On January 16 2015 11:08 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm never not voting Kelsier.

He was so unnecessarily interested in the cop but when the cop flipped he was uninterested in ritoky????

Robik made a post saying that if he died we should lynch vivax over ritoky first.

I thought we got more information from lynching vivax rather than ritoky.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 02:15 GMT

#9298

On January 16 2015 11:10 GlowingBear wrote:

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I've made a whole meta case on you.

If you think that I'm just sheeping Vivax, you should re read what I'm writing.

your meta case is that I am aggressive as town because of my first game.
Yes I was overly aggressive and people got really fuckng pissed off and didn't listen to me. Yelling and screaming isn't a good way to play so overall I toned down my play.

Yes I have a phone which I have to use in the evenings so I don't wake my girlfriend. (2am here)
that is surprisingly not alignment indicative

I don't think I give out easy town reads D1 at all, I town read DrH yeh but I don't think that makes me mafia.

Maybe look at THIS GAME rather than taking 2 posts from two of my old games, one of which was my first ever game! and making your read.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 16 2015 02:22 GMT

#9303

so let me just clarify this

- I ask artanis a question start of d1 to get a read on him
- I ask SL if he is going to reclam cop after SL says "I will reclaim cop tomorrow"
- using vote logic and reasons from my town reads I change my reads on SL
- 2 posts from old games one of which was my first game, and the fact I play using my phone in the evenings.

I'm mafia????

You read my post on vivax and you think he is town? Even though you both said my case is good

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