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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:04 GMT
#5221
Well GB has to claim cop and say those are his checks and we can go from there and see if we think if both are mafia or frames or millers or if there is a counter claim obviously.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 06 2015 18:04 GMT
#5222
If gbs cop he town checked ritoky. His read in thread on him wa ssuper bad
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:06 GMT
#5223
I'll wait on GB who just dissapeared after softing to 100% the checks
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:13 GMT
#5224
@Robik, the reason I left vivax blank was obviously I ran out of time and I was trying to be as comprehensive as possible when I was typing about people.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 06 2015 18:15 GMT
#5225
I liked the analysis as in the stuff you claim to read people for seems genuine.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 06 2015 18:16 GMT
#5226
Noticed DrH going off the charts very heavily as well.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:19 GMT
#5227
Vivax- I had a hard time getting through this one. D1 was very lackluster for Vivax but the same could be said for a lot of the posters when the day started. So moving past that I really liked and enjoyed the effort that Vivax put in D2 when he was on the block, he knew that he was probably going to be killed going into the day and had a majority of the votes on him for most of the day.

From this point forward is when I really think that Vivax started playing. He did draw suspicions to Geript and a couple other people (Marv and Jat) but I felt like and it read to me he was covering all of his bases. He saw something he didn't like he pushed it until he either came up with an alignment on someone or the person wasn't in the thread any more. Though he was wrong on a couple of people it seemed like he believes what he was typing and he was putting the effort in. Going after what has been termed unlynchable people is not scum favored or town favored, I really think that vivax was covering his bases and trying to push more information into the thread.

Did I like how he went about this at all the times? No, but the way he tried to proceed while on the block was towny to me. If he was lynched he would have his last will in thread.

He showed a healthy amount of paranoia when I was up for discussion at first having me town for defending him and then stepping back and considering given enough time and information. This is towny to me.

I think vivax shouldn't be the lynch today and i think hes solidly in my town pile today.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:25 GMT
#5228
And Depending on how GB comes back and explains eerything that leaves my scum team atm at

Palmar
Dr H
Super
Ritoky
Lazer
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:30 GMT
#5229
On January 07 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote:
And Depending on how GB comes back and explains eerything that leaves my scum team atm at

Palmar
Dr H
Super
Ritoky
Lazer

I hate this list. You're maxing out at like 3/5
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:35 GMT
#5230
On January 07 2015 03:30 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote:
And Depending on how GB comes back and explains eerything that leaves my scum team atm at

Palmar
Dr H
Super
Ritoky
Lazer

I hate this list. You're maxing out at like 3/5


Maybe so, and I knew that you would hate it but its d3, if i'm alive past today I have plenty of time to figure out where i'm wrong. And really you shouldn't hate a list where I have found at least 3 mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:37 GMT
#5231
On January 07 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 03:30 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 07 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote:
And Depending on how GB comes back and explains eerything that leaves my scum team atm at

Palmar
Dr H
Super
Ritoky
Lazer

I hate this list. You're maxing out at like 3/5


Maybe so, and I knew that you would hate it but its d3, if i'm alive past today I have plenty of time to figure out where i'm wrong. And really you shouldn't hate a list where I have found at least 3 mafia

We basically _have_ to hit today or we're super fucked
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:39 GMT
#5232
On January 07 2015 03:35 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 03:30 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 07 2015 03:25 Damdred wrote:
And Depending on how GB comes back and explains eerything that leaves my scum team atm at

Palmar
Dr H
Super
Ritoky
Lazer

I hate this list. You're maxing out at like 3/5


Maybe so, and I knew that you would hate it but its d3, if i'm alive past today I have plenty of time to figure out where i'm wrong. And really you shouldn't hate a list where I have found at least 3 mafia

So there are multiple reasons to hate your list

DrH couldn't have been more townie d1 and even though he fell off the face of the earth, there's basically no chance he's mafia
Lazer has no reason to TR me and then insta-switch. It would be really really awkward for mafia to do to a townie...they either want to clear a townie or push a townie... they don't start by clearing and then insta-switch to trying to kill that person
Ritoky and super probably aren't teammates.

So I reconsidered and you're now like 2/5 tops
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 18:44 GMT
#5233
Mafia do all sorts of thing that don't make sense, basing a read on when someone town reads you and insta swiches can be done as mafia it can be done as town that's not alignment indicative at all.

Super and Ritoky like to bus, look at carol for ritoky bussing HF early and often and look at ffl2 for super bussing when there was still hope.

Plenty of people can look really towny d1 if I did it I would get lynched basically. I think if you take away the chy spam fest he has a medium d1 but thats just me.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#5234
Basing this analysis off of d1 vote and my interpretation of the game:

-I think there's a mafia in damdred/sicklucker
-it's possible ritoky/superbia are mafia together, but unlikely. It is weird that they kinda pseudo push each other but not hard enough to get either one lynched.
-definitely a mafia between palmar/marv...not sure which one. Obviously i've been saying palmar is mafia from d1
-vivax probably mafia.

That leaves 1 more?

gonna go review the geript lynch
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:48 GMT
#5235
Ritoky, can you explain why you voted vivax over superbia?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:48 GMT
#5236
On January 07 2015 03:44 Damdred wrote:
Mafia do all sorts of thing that don't make sense, basing a read on when someone town reads you and insta swiches can be done as mafia it can be done as town that's not alignment indicative at all.

Super and Ritoky like to bus, look at carol for ritoky bussing HF early and often and look at ffl2 for super bussing when there was still hope.

Plenty of people can look really towny d1 if I did it I would get lynched basically. I think if you take away the chy spam fest he has a medium d1 but thats just me.

You're saying ritoky bussed early and often. The poitn is that he's not bussing hard enough to get credit for it though!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:49 GMT
#5237
Like, if we flip vivax and he's scum, I can basically construct the scum team. If he flips town, I can some-what sorta construct a pseudo-plausible scum team
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 18:55 GMT
#5238
geript (6): Vivax, palmar, Artanis[XP]

There are the possible people on geript who are mafia in my eyes. I took off LM, JAT and DrH. It's possible I'm wrong on LM, but I want to believe I'm not. JAT is confirmed town and DrH is basically confirmed town too. That leaves those three people.
Of those, Artanis was on both bats and geript. That's not a bad thing per say, but it's nothing to brag about. He's having a hellova mafia game if he's mafia, but we shouldn't overlook him moving forward. Leaving vivax and palmar. There was a massive floodgate off of vivax for some reason yesterday. He started posting and everyone all of a sudden forgot that he's scum. If he flips scum, there's definitely some analysis to be made on who jumped off of him.
Palmar has had a single solid post this game on d1. He had an "okay" post on d2 where he may or may not believe what he's saying about marv. I'm fairly certain that one of them is mafia at this point, but again, i'm not sure which one.

Which brings me to ritoky. Ritoky has been "absent" in lynches...meaning he's been voting pointlessly. I don't know why he voted vivax when he did, given he has spent the entire game at odds with superbia. maybe they're mafia together. If he is mafia, this would lead towards a marv!town read, thus plammar = scum.

It may also strengthen my belief that vivax is mafia because of the weird time that his vote ends up on him.

I don't know where I'm getting at with all of this, but I'm just thought dumping at this point. Hope this helps someone, because it doesn't help me all that much as it's all still theoretical and not practical
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
January 06 2015 19:08 GMT
#5239
You claim you would have a possible scum team if I flipped town. What would that pseudo-plausible-scumteam be cause I'd rather discuss those options with you right now since it's the scum team you claim you're looking for.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 19:12 GMT
#5240
On January 07 2015 04:08 Vivax wrote:
You claim you would have a possible scum team if I flipped town. What would that pseudo-plausible-scumteam be cause I'd rather discuss those options with you right now since it's the scum team you claim you're looking for.

Looking at the 5-5 vote, the ONLY POSSIBLE SCUM voting for you is sicklucker. If you're town though, maybe marv would be scum. maybe artanis. and then something like damdred/chyz and ritoky
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