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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#5161
then again the temptation to kill him for the enormous amount of terrible shit he says about me is great.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 06 2015 15:36 GMT
#5162
On January 07 2015 00:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 00:18 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 07 2015 00:11 marvellosity wrote:
On January 07 2015 00:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 07 2015 00:00 marvellosity wrote:
GB, do you think it's likely Palmar and I are mafia together?


Why not?

can you think of any possible reasons?


I'm reading palmar as scum for only that post I've quoted

I'm reading you as scum because you had no influence in those lynches + I don't see you actually trying to figure the game out + you're still alive

Who are your townreads? I know you have a very good ability to find town

but essentially all your reads are completely made up and you haven't gone back to double check anything

like, i get being massively behind and you can't catch up on the thread.

but it's like you have these reads without going back and checking anything, at all.

like here you're asking me a question that you should absolutely know the answer to give I answered it in list form during the night phase. i can't tell if you're bad enough to scumread me without having read basically most of my filter. i hope not?..


I am. :/

I think I have enough reasons to base a scumread on you. I'm not getting you lynched today though, as I believe palmar is a better lynch.
I'm adorable.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 06 2015 15:36 GMT
#5163
Ibwish we didn't have a replacement at this stage
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
January 06 2015 15:37 GMT
#5164
On January 07 2015 00:18 IAmRobik wrote:
Vivax, I'll give you one chance right now to make me change my mind on you:

Analyze the game for me from the perspective that I'm town


Ok.

Robik decided D2 that I had to die. He would kill babies to lynch me, he would ragequit to kill me. But he didn't try to get his other scumreads (suepr, ritoky and some other dude) lynched at EoD 2 when most the people present wanted to move off of geript and hence Robik is a townie who is all talk and no action, but he still feels he is good enough to call people bad after the lynch he didn't want to touch with an eight foot pole, so he's also an ass.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 06 2015 15:37 GMT
#5165
i applaud the lack of bias in that post Vivax
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 06 2015 15:38 GMT
#5166
Viv

If you choose between rit and super who do you vote?
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 06 2015 15:38 GMT
#5167
On January 07 2015 00:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Ibwish we didn't have a replacement at this stage


CHUPAZI
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
January 06 2015 15:39 GMT
#5168
On January 07 2015 00:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Viv

If you choose between rit and super who do you vote?


If I really had to right now? Super
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 06 2015 15:42 GMT
#5169
2; GlowingBear- Glowingbears d1 and d2 were largely forgettable as in GB wasn't here doing anything. I actually believe GB that he was just busy and doing holiday things during this time period. Being two hundred or so pages behind GB seems to attack people through looking at filters or whats going on in the game directly.

We see that GB goes after the harder targets in the game which is alignment indicative of GB. If you look in GBs past mafia games he rarely goes after the hard target, in arnie got a gun gb did go after robik some but overall he still went after the easy mislynches (and robik was getting a good bit of heat at the time) but he finally settled on templar to get a kill for that day and then went on to focus on me. If you then look at Fanfiction Mafia, GB mainly tunneled onto me throughout the whole game as I was viewed as a weaker town read but was pretty easy to get lost in that.

Look at recent town games of GB, GB went after the heavy hitters in HF (carol), Marv (Russian), JAT (here). I really think that this is alignment indicative at this point in GBs mafia play after this game its possibly not because i've posted and he will change his meta again. When GB is here he is putting his neck out for reads even if some of them come off as a bit tin foil hat. Overall I think GB is town today and gets more time to develop reads right now and contribute.

4; Artanis[XP] - Artanis seems pretty town to me, has been engaged in everything that the thread has been throwing out. Has tried to push his lynch forward and has seemed to logically go about things in a good way. Also seems to have pretty good follow up with the questioning phase and looks to find if things are lining up. I think right now Artanis is in my top three town reads.

5; Lazermonkey - Lazermonkey is scum. If you look at my case d1, kels case d1 and n2, you will see that he is scum. He is super defensive about everything the moment he gets pressure. He misrepresents a ton of things going on in the thread and when confronted with it backtracks a good deal (one of his posts towards me, misrepresents me and SL at points). He has scum reads at certain points and is super happy to lynch them but then forgets about them when the thread does and almst never pushes them again (scum read on me when kel relented lm never did again and now sl is scum). Hard defends someone who his probably mafia I think hes mafia.

6; Marvellosity - I'm going to be putting marv into the town pile right now. While his play leaves something to be desired especially around lynch time, he seems to give opinions as the game goes along and seems to care. Just comparing this game to any of his recent games you can see it looks closer to his town games then it does his scum games. I really think that he has given some good thoughts to the game and really wish he would knowledge bomb us though and find some mafia. Also this marv kind of reminds me of Cell Marv where he was town but didn't care as much because some people didn't listen to him early. Hes probably a mid tier to lower tier town read but i wouldn't lynch him.

8; IAmRobik - I think Robik is probably town, hes really tunneled at this point. Its more of a gut thing than anything and is a super weak read, his fights seemed a bit weird to me and contrived at points and kinda made VE rage quit. Promised to do more and has done a bit so i'm not sure but I think town.

9; TheChyz (replaced)- I think earlier I talked about how the slot is more than likely town for a few reasons, it was tunneled into for pretty bad reasons and it caused a rage quit. However the manner in which they rage quit looked pretty towny besides claiming scum, leaving a will that could be used to implicate your team mates is not something I think a scum quitting would do. Town more than likely.

10; Palmar - Palmar is probably scum. He afk'd on most of the lynches and was goin to waste his vote at one point before he was confronted with it, in another game Palmar mentioned that he is either a 0 or a 10 as town and usually a 5-7 as mafia. I would put Palmar in a weird range of seeming to do things and not do things, his knowledge bomb on d1 got him a pass but he really hasn't done much since then.

His push on marv feels a bit weird to me, he really didn't push hes just been soft pushing to see if people would pick it up to me. And he really hasn't reacted to SLs fake claim+rescend which just rom knowing palmar he has a policy to lynch claimers as i've recently experienced. I think its out o his town game.

13; sicklucker - I think SL is town, I would put him into the top five right now. His play which has gotten him some flack just doesn't make sense coming from a mafia. He is barely under any pressure and he claims cop with a green check changes it and then unclaims during the night for wifom. It just looks like someone who watches or plays video mafia would make this play and see it as pretty good. I don't like the play as it might draw out the cop but it does not make sense at this juncture for mafia to want to go 1-1 with the cop. SL is pretty solidly town for me.

Besides that if you look at his play he has developed a few crazy theories and flip flops on people to get reactions and to flush out his reads if you look at student mafia, carol, metal mafia you can see him doing this a ton it is one of the staples of his town game.

14; Vivax -

15; KelsierSC- Kel is town. Honestly hes my top town at this point. His questioning people during the night and day phases, his follow up and his synopsis of all his questioning sessions at the end really point to town. He has follow up, he pushes what he thinks and tries t get who he wants lynched. He is trying to solve this game and he is town.

16; ritoky - I think ritoky is a good shot at scum. I had a slight town read on him d1 due to his follow up being so different then his mafia games in carol and in season of the witch. However his follow up to that has been pretty bad up to a point, he was pretty useless n1, d2 and n2. He doesn't really have much push behind what hes saying, however his posts so far in d3 have been ok, his vote analysis wasn't bad and hes giving some decent thoughts to the thread. I'm not sure that he should be the lynch today but i'm still sold that hes a good shot at mafia.

17; DoctorHelvetica - I'm actually leaning scum on DrH right now, his day one while almost everyone called it towny looks a bit weird to me. He tunnels one player all day (chy) who he makes rage quit, inflated his filter by doing so and made up a scum team of chy and geript. Come end of day he can get chy potentially lynched and definitely get geript lynched. However instead he chooses to shenany off of his top two scum reads onto a lesser read leaving his other scum reads alive another day, when confronted with this information he said he was second guessing himself. Since this time he has dissapeared from the thread going from 19 pages of filter in cycle one down to 5 pages since, his return will tell a lot because he has not really been involved in any situations really since d1. Hes a possible scum but he probably shouldn't be the lynch today unless something huge happens.

20; Superbia - I've talked a good deal about superbia at this point, really wanted this lynch yesterday. And really want it today as well, Superbia is not playing like he normally would as town. Barely has any formulated reads and when he gives promises that he will do things he barely does anything and goes away for most of the other time. Seems to be posting angry all the time and is really defensive about all things. This is a great lynch I think if we want to go for a lurker especially today.

Obviously i've removed myself and the dead people in this list as i'm most sure of the alignments on those.

I still have to do vivax but i ran out of time, be back shortly any questions or comments please leave them i'll finish soon.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22184 Posts
January 06 2015 15:47 GMT
#5170
On January 07 2015 00:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 00:38 KelsierSC wrote:
Viv

If you choose between rit and super who do you vote?


If I really had to right now? Super


Rereading ritoky's notes on D1 that completely lack direction, and how super sounds like a dick, but a convinced dick at least. Mostly thought ritoky's latest notes didn't look that bad. So I think I'll 180 ° on this.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 15:50 GMT
#5171
2; GlowingBear - lean scum
4; Artanis[XP] - lean town
5; Lazermonkey - lean heavy town
6; Marvellosity - step it up sson
9; TheChyz - unsure
10; Palmar - unsure
11; Damdred - unsure
13; sicklucker - lean town but unsure
14; Vivax - lean heavy scum
15; KelsierSC - lean town
16; ritoky - lean town
17; DoctorHelvetica - had the towniest town of any town d1 and is basically confirmed town even with the d2 drop off
20; Superbia - lean scum
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 15:50 GMT
#5172
damdred, HOW DO YOU LEAVE VIVAX BLANK!?!?!?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 06 2015 15:51 GMT
#5173
Dam that analysis is pretty much exactly what I think.

I think with geript and bats both being town the vote on geript was likely all town. I guess this just means SL was just not that good which was unfortunate. Ibdont think my pressure was unwarranted on him but a lot of town think he's town, his cop claim really makes no fucking sense and moving onto bats as mafia there also makes no sense.

I think a team of
Lm,super,Viv, palmar and ....

Is my top scum team right now
Zerg for Life
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 15:51 GMT
#5174
On January 07 2015 00:37 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 00:18 IAmRobik wrote:
Vivax, I'll give you one chance right now to make me change my mind on you:

Analyze the game for me from the perspective that I'm town


Ok.

Robik decided D2 that I had to die. He would kill babies to lynch me, he would ragequit to kill me. But he didn't try to get his other scumreads (suepr, ritoky and some other dude) lynched at EoD 2 when most the people present wanted to move off of geript and hence Robik is a townie who is all talk and no action, but he still feels he is good enough to call people bad after the lynch he didn't want to touch with an eight foot pole, so he's also an ass.

So pretend you actually believed my explanation for being away towards EOD2 and why I didn't vote on superbia and kept my vote on you even though people switched off...how about then
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 06 2015 15:52 GMT
#5175
Although I guess I could be wrong on LM
Zerg for Life
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 15:52 GMT
#5176
LM's play last night makes 0 sense as mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 06 2015 15:54 GMT
#5177
So I just read the cyz last post now that we know he actually rage quit. Like hes always town. He gave us his actual notes/ reads before he left. Like mafia would never do that in a rage quit.

Who really goes screw this game. But wait ill make this giant post to wifmo play to carry my team to a victory! na chezinus isas confirmed town in this game as anyone.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 15:54 GMT
#5178
Like, mafia has an agenda. Mafia's agenda is to get townies mislynched. So they already know "hey, i'm going to try to get so-and-so mislynched." So why does he start off by saying "i like this post by robik." Then he goes on to say "i read robik's filter and it's really good and I don't know why people don't have him as town." Only to change his opinion on me 2 minutes later. It's bonkers as mafia.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 06 2015 15:54 GMT
#5179
On January 07 2015 00:54 sicklucker wrote:
So I just read the cyz last post now that we know he actually rage quit. Like hes always town. He gave us his actual notes/ reads before he left. Like mafia would never do that in a rage quit.

Who really goes screw this game. But wait ill make this giant post to wifmo play to carry my team to a victory! na chezinus isas confirmed town in this game as anyone.

how do we know he's town?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 06 2015 15:55 GMT
#5180
Honestly the theChyz slot shoulda just been mod killed. I dont think its fair to mafia that hes still in this game
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